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15:01:02 <tflink> #meetingname fedora-qadevel
15:01:03 <tflink> #topic Roll Call
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15:01:14 * mkrizek 
15:01:15 * kparal is here
15:01:33 * garretraziel is here
15:02:34 * jskladan is here
15:03:11 <tflink> welcome, welcome
15:03:19 <tflink> shall we get started?
15:03:29 <tflink> #topic Announcements and Information
15:03:51 <tflink> #info new planning project that will have our short term tasks going forward - tflink
15:03:51 <tflink> #info The roadmap has been reworked, easier to read now - tflink
15:03:51 <tflink> #info Implement result-naming whitelist checking in libtaskotron - mkrizek
15:03:51 <tflink> #link https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T715
15:03:52 <tflink> #info Determine Top Level Namespaces - mkrizek
15:03:54 <tflink> #link https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T717
15:03:57 <tflink> #info we will need to wait with F24 yumrepoinfo.conf changes until Alpha freeze, hopefully things will be better next time - kparal
15:03:59 <tflink> #link https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T729
15:04:01 <tflink> #link https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/issues/794
15:04:03 <tflink> #info working task-dockerautotest - suite of tests for Docker to be run with libtaskotron - jsedlak
15:04:05 <tflink> #link https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/D767
15:04:10 <tflink> any additional items, questions or comments?
15:04:56 <mkrizek> not here
15:05:05 * tflink assumes not
15:05:07 <tflink> moving on
15:05:16 <kparal> nice roadmap document
15:05:19 <tflink> #topic Dist-Git style tasks
15:05:19 <tflink> #link https://phab.qadevel.cloud.fedoraproject.org/T704
15:05:32 <tflink> kparal: thanks, now it needs to stay up to date :)
15:05:46 <kparal> tflink: you mean it doesn't auto-update itself?
15:05:58 <tflink> kparal: don't I wish
15:06:43 <tflink> anyhow, more thoughts on this particular topic? there were a few comments in the last week but I didn't see any objections
15:07:21 <kparal> I still plan to review D759, it's related
15:07:23 <tflink> assuming I'm not forgetting a blocking bit of this task again
15:08:15 <kparal> so, as a follow up of the discussion in T704 - I really thought we're trying to allow a formula-less tasks
15:08:30 <kparal> for the specific use case of pkg-specific checks
15:08:38 <tflink> can you elaborate a bit more on how that might work?
15:08:58 <tflink> i remember talking about being able to skip the scheduling files by relying on defaults
15:09:14 <tflink> but I don't recall a discussion around the forumla files themselves
15:09:30 <kparal> I haven't really thought it out well, I just assumed we want to attempt it based on our previous discussions, but it's very possible that I just understood it wrong
15:09:56 <kparal> I think it could be possible, but I'm not sure if it's worth the trouble to have a special case where formulas are not needed
15:10:01 <jskladan> tflink: iirc, we said that we'll allow a know-named executable, that will just return either exit code, or some standard output
15:10:12 <tflink> would the idea be that an executable script of some sort in the dir and if no formula file exists, it would be run against koji_build, have that build downloaded and the script executed, reporting the results to resultsdb?
15:10:13 <jskladan> and we'll devise all the needed information from the"metadata"
15:10:23 <kparal> something like that
15:10:25 <jskladan> tflink: that
15:11:20 <tflink> if we can figure out something reasonable, that sounds like it could be useful
15:12:16 <tflink> but I don't want to be a requirement for dist-git tasks until we have a better idea of how it would work and how much effort it would require
15:13:03 <kparal> let's go forward with formula-based approach for now, I think
15:13:08 <kparal> less complications
15:13:40 <kparal> we can always introduce some automatic mode later
15:13:54 <jskladan> tflink: my understanding was, that we will want to have that before the "mass roll-out", so the test-devs have the least complicated first step
15:14:09 <jskladan> but what kamil said sounds reasonable
15:14:17 <jskladan> we can add the icing on the cake later
15:14:20 <tflink> jskladan: I'd like to, sure but I don't want to take too long
15:14:21 <tflink> exactly
15:15:39 <tflink> #action tflink to write up ticket for formula-less dist-git tasks
15:15:55 <tflink> anything else on this topic? any reason not to start moving forward on it?
15:16:38 <kparal> nope
15:18:17 * tflink takes silence from others as a no, too
15:18:22 <tflink> ok, moving on
15:18:27 <tflink> #topic Tasking
15:18:37 <tflink> is anyone in need of a task?
15:19:11 <jskladan> I'm good
15:19:22 * kparal still has reviews waiting
15:19:41 <mkrizek> I'm good too
15:20:41 <tflink> that's pretty much all that I had which brings us to ...
15:20:45 <tflink> #topic Open Floor
15:21:09 * tflink is going to be doing more ticket mongering this week in an attempt to make the planning board cleaner
15:21:17 <tflink> useful suggestions would be welcome
15:23:36 <tflink> anything else?
15:23:46 <tflink> if not, will close out the meeting in a minute or so
15:24:18 <jskladan> nothing here
15:24:21 <jskladan> as far as I can tell
15:25:41 <tflink> alrighty, thanks for coming everyone
15:25:46 * tflink will send out minutes shortly
15:25:51 <tflink> #endmeeting