15:00:39 <jds2001> #startmeeting Server Working Group Weekly Meeting (2016-05-24)
15:00:39 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue May 31 15:00:39 2016 UTC.  The chair is jds2001. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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15:00:39 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'server_working_group_weekly_meeting_(2016-05-24)'
15:00:40 <jds2001> #chair danofsatx nirik stefw adamw simi mhayden jds2001 mjwolf hanthana
15:00:40 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw danofsatx hanthana jds2001 mhayden mjwolf nirik simi stefw
15:00:42 <jds2001> #meetingname ServerSIG
15:00:42 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'serversig'
15:01:10 <adamw> ahoy
15:01:12 <adamw> .hello adamwill
15:01:13 <zodbot> adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' <awilliam@redhat.com>
15:01:17 <nirik> .hello kevin
15:01:19 <jds2001> oops, too much copy/paste in #startmeeting :)
15:01:19 <zodbot> nirik: kevin 'Kevin Fenzi' <kevin@scrye.com>
15:01:19 <nirik> morning
15:01:25 <jds2001> .hello jstanley
15:01:26 <zodbot> jds2001: jstanley 'Jon Stanley' <jonstanley@gmail.com>
15:01:47 <jds2001> #topic Roll Call
15:02:28 * jds2001 waits for folks to trickle in
15:02:38 <mark_otaris> Half the time, when there's a meeting, there's a mistake in the #startmeeting command. :)
15:03:57 <jds2001> heh yeah
15:04:00 <jds2001> easy to do
15:04:13 <adamw> secret: always make it safely copy/pastable ;P
15:04:56 <jds2001> sadly, the desktop that i use is Windows 10 (which is actually quite nice)
15:05:10 <adamw> .fire jds2001
15:05:10 <zodbot> adamw fires jds2001
15:05:12 <jds2001> so i fixed my stuff in OneNote to be safely copy/pastable :)
15:05:37 * jds2001 uses proprietary apps :(
15:05:56 <mjwolf> .hello mjwolf
15:05:57 <zodbot> mjwolf: mjwolf 'Michael Wolf' <mjwolf@us.ibm.com>
15:06:02 <adamw> .fire jds2001 again
15:06:02 <zodbot> adamw fires jds2001 again
15:06:13 * jds2001 cries
15:06:24 <mhayden> .hello mhayden
15:06:26 <zodbot> mhayden: mhayden 'Major Hayden' <major@mhtx.net>
15:06:37 <jds2001> awesome, we have quorum!
15:06:57 * jds2001 only has one topic for this meeting
15:07:10 <jds2001> #topic Meeting Wrangling
15:07:29 <jds2001> so with the departure of sgallagh we seem to have some issue getting an agenda, etc.
15:07:50 * jds2001 ran this meeting since I was around and it seems no one else volunteered :)
15:08:05 <jds2001> but obviously was unprepared, with no agenda.
15:08:10 <jds2001> so i propose we fix that :)
15:08:10 <nirik> one possible option I suggested was to have a rotating chair... pick one at the end of each meeting
15:08:21 <nirik> and then they are responsible for that next meeting
15:08:43 <jds2001> that makes sense to me.
15:09:26 <jds2001> #chair simo
15:09:26 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw danofsatx hanthana jds2001 mhayden mjwolf nirik simi simo stefw
15:09:29 <jds2001> #unchair sim
15:09:29 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw danofsatx hanthana jds2001 mhayden mjwolf nirik simi simo stefw
15:09:34 <jds2001> #unchair simi
15:09:34 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw danofsatx hanthana jds2001 mhayden mjwolf nirik simo stefw
15:09:46 <jds2001> oops :)
15:09:57 <mhayden> first try! :)
15:10:03 <simo> .hello simo
15:10:04 <zodbot> simo: simo 'Simo Sorce' <ssorce@redhat.com>
15:10:29 <jds2001> hey simo
15:10:41 <jds2001> so we were just talking about the idea of a rotating chair :)
15:10:46 <jds2001> which makes sense to me.
15:11:00 <jds2001> nirik: at the end of each meeting, or should we come up with a schedule?
15:11:34 <nirik> well, the problem with schedules is that people have vacations or are busy or whatever, then they trade around, then it becomes all complicated.
15:11:43 <nirik> usually people know if they will be around the next week
15:12:24 <jds2001> true
15:13:09 * jds2001 just wants it to be equitable, but i guess we can self-police that
15:13:47 <nirik> seems to work for fesco... people usually step up if they haven't in a while, etc.
15:14:24 <jds2001> sounds good
15:14:31 <jds2001> do we have volunteers for next week?
15:15:17 <nirik> I guess I could do next week. We will be in freeze and hopefully things will be a bit quieter
15:15:31 <simo> I'll be traveling next week IIRC ...
15:16:03 <jds2001> #info nirik will chair meeting next week
15:16:45 <jds2001> does anyone have any other agenda items?
15:16:51 <mjwolf> so being new to this and all.  is there a place to send agenda items in advance or do we just bring them up in the meetings
15:17:07 <jds2001> mjwolf: the chair should solicit them on the list
15:17:16 <mjwolf> ok that works
15:17:23 <jds2001> but if you have any items, feel free to bring them up at the end :)
15:17:43 <jds2001> which is the place I think we are now, lacking any other items from me :)
15:18:22 <jds2001> #topic Open Floor
15:19:17 <nirik> We could discuss the latest pitchfork and torches systemd thing... but perhaps waiting a while would be better anyhow. ;)
15:20:40 <mhayden> what's the latest one? :)
15:20:48 <jds2001> lets add that to the agnenda for next week? I'm not familiar with it
15:21:24 <jds2001> is there some thread i missed (likely on devel@ which goes to /dev/null for me due to snr) :D
15:21:42 <nirik> yes, devel... the 'kill all user processes on session close' thing
15:22:19 * jds2001 will dig it up and read up - though that does sound familiar
15:23:14 <mhayden> ah, i'll gander, too
15:23:20 <nirik> it's not the end of the world, although some people seem to think so. It's only in rawhide and I suppose we could override the default
15:23:55 <adamw> IT'S ALWAYS THE END OF THE WORLD
15:23:59 <adamw> I AM VERY ANGRY
15:24:09 * nirik nods.
15:24:13 <jds2001> .fire adamw for being angry
15:24:13 <zodbot> adamw fires adamw for being angry
15:24:41 <jds2001> feel good to fire yourself? :)
15:25:17 <nirik> On a more productive note, we are going into F24 final freeze this week.
15:25:25 <nirik> would be great if everyone could try and test server stuff. ;)
15:25:48 * jds2001 might actually have time to do so! :D
15:27:13 <adamw> yeah, please
15:27:32 * jds2001 can easily do AD testing now.
15:27:45 <adamw> i'm still working on automating it, but i got delayed by the freeipa-deployment-not-working bug
15:27:59 <adamw> hopefully i'll get some more tests done this week
15:30:05 * jds2001 has real M$ AD, which might be important for some things i guess.
15:30:25 <jds2001> MSDN is a wonderful thing :)
15:31:30 <jds2001> anything else?
15:32:23 * nirik has nothing
15:32:27 <jds2001> #info Please test F24! Final freeze is next week.
15:32:49 * jds2001 has nothing
15:32:54 <jds2001> thanks for coming everyone!
15:33:09 <jds2001> #endmeeting