17:03:15 <jberkus> #startmeeting fedora_cloud_wg
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17:03:23 <imcleod> dustymabe: I'm meeting-crazy these days.  Have, I believe, 30 minutes free.
17:03:29 <dustymabe> .hellomynameis dustymabe
17:03:30 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dustymabe@redhat.com>
17:03:36 <jberkus> #topic roll call
17:03:37 <rtnpro> .fas rtnpro
17:03:39 <imcleod> .hellomynameis imcleod
17:03:41 <zodbot> rtnpro: rtnpro 'Ratnadeep Debnath' <rtnpro@gmail.com>
17:03:44 <zodbot> imcleod: imcleod 'Ian McLeod' <imcleod@redhat.com>
17:03:45 <sayan> .fas sayanchowdhury
17:03:47 <zodbot> sayan: sayanchowdhury 'Sayan Chowdhury' <sayan.chowdhury2012@gmail.com>
17:03:49 <jberkus> .hello jberkus
17:03:50 <zodbot> jberkus: jberkus 'Josh Berkus' <josh@agliodbs.com>
17:03:53 <jbrooks> .hello jasonbrooks
17:03:54 <zodbot> jbrooks: jasonbrooks 'Jason Brooks' <JBROOKS@REDHAT.COM>
17:04:01 <coremodule> .hello coremodule
17:04:02 <zodbot> coremodule: coremodule 'Geoffrey Marr' <gmarr@redhat.com>
17:04:34 <scollier> .hello scollier
17:04:35 <zodbot> scollier: scollier 'Scott Collier' <emailscottcollier@gmail.com>
17:04:40 <maxamillion> .hello maxamillion
17:04:41 <zodbot> maxamillion: maxamillion 'Adam Miller' <maxamillion@gmail.com>
17:04:57 <jsmith> .hello jsmith
17:04:58 <zodbot> jsmith: jsmith 'Jared Smith' <jsmith.fedora@gmail.com>
17:05:25 * dustymabe would just like to say that maxamillion is his hero
17:05:31 * jsmith is online from an airport, with limited connectivity
17:05:45 <tflink> .hello tflink
17:05:47 <zodbot> tflink: tflink 'Tim Flink' <tflink@redhat.com>
17:05:58 <jberkus> dustymabe: is f24 online?
17:06:25 <dustymabe> jberkus: not yet. but i've been following the notes and I think they are close
17:06:32 <jberkus> #chair jberkus jsmith dustymabe tflink maxamillion sayan imcleod scollier
17:06:32 <zodbot> Current chairs: dustymabe imcleod jberkus jsmith maxamillion sayan scollier tflink
17:06:35 <dustymabe> we'll let adam comment when we get into the meeting
17:08:13 <jberkus> ok, ready to start?
17:08:34 <jberkus> #topic Availability of Atomic Host 24
17:08:48 <jberkus> given that that's the biggie.  maxamillion, what's our current status?
17:09:08 <dustymabe> some updates have been given here: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/164
17:09:20 <dustymabe> looks like most everything has been staged, not sure what is left
17:11:12 <dustymabe> also there is discussion for the website PR here: https://pagure.io/fedora-websites/pull-request/22
17:11:40 <dustymabe> looks like they are actively working on fixing some issues with the PR and also might be waiting for the images to get synced out to the mirors
17:13:18 <dustymabe> ok I say we move on for now. he must be off fighting fires
17:14:05 <jberkus> ok.
17:14:53 <jberkus> #topic Action Items
17:15:53 <maxamillion> jberkus: sorry
17:15:55 <maxamillion> dustymabe: sorry
17:16:04 <maxamillion> on a call, bad at multitasking
17:16:05 <jberkus> maxamillion: we know what you're busy doing
17:16:20 <jberkus> maxamillion: should we switch back, or are you still on a call?
17:16:27 <maxamillion> please switch back
17:17:20 <maxamillion> the release engineering work is all done, the release script is fixed, we have all the content pre-staged here http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/atomic/stable/ and it should be sync'd to the mirrors
17:17:28 <maxamillion> the only thing we're waiting on is the websites
17:17:44 <jzb> .hellomynameis jzb
17:17:45 <zodbot> jzb: jzb 'Joe Brockmeier' <jzb@redhat.com>
17:17:51 <jberkus> #topic Availability of F24 Atomic
17:18:14 <dustymabe> maxamillion: and it looks like we are close on that
17:18:20 <dustymabe> right?
17:18:21 <maxamillion> dustymabe: yes
17:18:35 <maxamillion> dustymabe: the patches appear to be in, we're just discussing some other stuff
17:18:39 <dustymabe> yayayay so we should probably have a release today
17:18:43 <jberkus> maxamillion: are the other issues temporary or long-term fixes?  that is, are we still looking at a bunch of required work for the next release?
17:19:53 <maxamillion> jberkus: there's a lot of long term work, but it's already planned, scoped, and in line for being done ... the next release should be fine, I think this current strip of duct tape will hold for a while because this was a side effect of multiple changes happening at the same time and it just wasn't orchestrated together well
17:20:15 <jberkus> OK
17:20:36 <maxamillion> jberkus: nothing should change like it just did for future releases until at least Fedora 25
17:22:10 <jberkus> maxamillion: if it doesn't go up today, is there anything the rest of us can reasonably do?
17:22:46 <dustymabe> jberkus: we could just send the release email with the url location
17:23:10 <dustymabe> that way I could go ahead and put the vagrant images up on atlas
17:23:29 <maxamillion> jberkus: basically what dustymabe said ... we're at the mercy of the web team at the moment
17:24:04 <jberkus> are they contending with other critical issues?
17:25:04 <maxamillion> jberkus: no idea
17:25:15 <maxamillion> I'm not on the web team and have zero introspection into their ongoings
17:25:39 <maxamillion> I as of yesterday will become the Cloud WG's official liason for the web team though
17:25:58 <maxamillion> so if we need something from them or need them to know about something, let's bring it up in meetings and I'll take it from there
17:26:02 <maxamillion> volunteers welcomed
17:26:07 <maxamillion> volunteers welcomed to join in*
17:27:10 <jberkus> well, they seem to be fairly responsive on the PR.
17:27:40 <maxamillion> they do
17:27:44 <jberkus> hopefully this will get fixed within the next couple hours, from the look of it
17:28:28 <jberkus> ok, moving on
17:28:35 <jberkus> #topic Action Items
17:28:54 <jberkus> maxamillion: thanks for bailing water, btw.
17:29:03 <maxamillion> jberkus: I do what I can :)
17:30:48 <jberkus> ticket #125: that's me
17:31:00 <jberkus> no updates; expect to have examples prepared for Flock.
17:31:22 <jberkus> ticket #136: Ian?  Vagrant boxes fixups?
17:31:25 <jberkus> imcleod: ^^^
17:31:37 * imcleod looking - need a few moments
17:32:15 <jberkus> https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/136
17:32:33 <jberkus> jzb: is there some reason not to close "Proposals for F24 features"?
17:32:43 <jzb> jberkus: none whatsoever.
17:32:46 <jzb> I'll close
17:32:55 <imcleod> I really have no idea what this would mean.  dustymabe, I know you originally opened it - Does Vagrant for virtualbox normally support adding a CDROM?
17:33:14 <jzb> imcleod: IIRC somebody had a feature want for a CDROM
17:33:21 <jberkus> also, we're going to skip maxamillion's other tickets, because I can't imagine that he's had time to even look at them
17:33:27 <maxamillion> I have not :(
17:33:30 <jzb> I think we can notfix it.
17:33:34 <dustymabe> imcleod: it has to do with a user trying to get the vbox guest additions into the VM
17:33:47 <dustymabe> virtualbox gives the users an ISO they can load into the box
17:33:59 <dustymabe> so for that they *need* a cdrom
17:34:08 <dustymabe> at least that is how oracle's documentation has it
17:34:16 <jberkus> dustymabe: that's correct
17:34:18 <dustymabe> we all know they can just loopback mount the iso
17:34:36 <dustymabe> so a user requested that we be able to add a cdrom device for this reason
17:34:40 <imcleod> jzb, dustymabe: In the context of Vagrant I'm not sure how this would work.  I'm googling now.  I'll update the ticket with what I find, which may be "still stumped, please clarify"
17:34:41 <dustymabe> seemed reasonable
17:34:49 <dustymabe> imcleod: thanks
17:35:43 <jberkus> dustymabe: do you have the original bug report somewhere?  that would probably help
17:35:52 <dustymabe> jberkus: one sec
17:37:07 <jbrooks> https://github.com/dotless-de/vagrant-vbguest
17:37:32 <jbrooks> I wonder if our vagrantfile would have to be modded for the user to use that
17:37:41 <dustymabe> jberkus: it was in the comments of this fedmag post: https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-cloud-vagrant-boxes-atlas/
17:37:52 <dustymabe> search for CDROM
17:38:03 <jberkus> #action imcleod, dustymabe, jbrooks to look into #136
17:38:11 <jberkus> moving on
17:38:35 <imcleod> dustymabe: Bah.  That's also where somebody asked about making the virtual disk much bigger, while only allocating a small amount of it by default.  Which also seemed reasonable but runs into some efficiency issues in koji at the moment.
17:39:08 <jberkus> FOSP: waiting for handoff from jzb.  That's also true with the user mode stuff, which for some reason doens't have a ticket.
17:39:30 <jberkus> jzb: can you and I chat soon about FOSP, and give me the contacts?
17:39:38 <jzb> jberkus: yes
17:39:56 <imcleod> dustymabe: IN that same comment chain, Vladimir suggests using the plugin, and claims that it works.
17:40:40 <jberkus> #154 I haven't addressed this because for the last 2 weeks there hasn't been a download page.  So, skipping.
17:40:47 <dustymabe> right - so that is a solution. i'm just trying to support the case where people are following oracles docs
17:41:19 <jberkus> #155: Post-GA cadence for deliverables.  This seems like a big discussion item.  Can we make it the main topic of next week's meeting?
17:41:33 <jberkus> with both maxamillion busy and kushal absent, I don't think we can take it on today
17:42:03 <maxamillion> yeah, I'm good with that
17:43:04 <jberkus> #action discuss Post-GA Cadence first thing in 7/20 meeting
17:44:49 <jberkus> next: #156 Kickstart docs.  This was a me/dusty thing, but got sidetracked by Summit.  dustymabe, do you have time to collab with me on this?  I need to reimage the whole cluster, so it seems like a good time.
17:46:19 <jberkus> dustymabe: ?
17:46:47 <dustymabe> jberkus: yeah
17:47:00 <dustymabe> I'll help you get them kickstarted :)
17:47:19 <jberkus> you around for this tommorrow?  I'll have questions about setting up the ISO for kickstart
17:47:24 <jberkus> great
17:47:41 <dustymabe> to be clear
17:47:49 <jberkus> #160 rtnpro if you're here, did this get done?
17:47:57 <dustymabe> I don't know much about Atomic ISO kickstarting.. but I do know a lot about kickstart in general
17:48:09 <dustymabe> so we should be able to figure things out just fine
17:48:10 <jberkus> dustymabe: well, that's what's needed
17:48:24 <dustymabe> jberkus: well we'll figure it out
17:48:31 <dustymabe> I've done the Atomic ISO kickstart before
17:48:38 <dustymabe> just don't have much recollection of it
17:48:42 <jberkus> dustymabe: what I couldn't make work on my own was a completely headless install, I had to still type the kickstart file location into the console
17:48:44 <dustymabe> so this will be a refresher
17:48:53 <dustymabe> jberkus: oh, well that is easy
17:48:59 <dustymabe> lets shoot for Friday to work on this
17:49:00 <jbrooks> I've done it w/ cobbler
17:49:04 <jberkus> ok, friday it is
17:49:38 <jberkus> #topic open floor
17:49:44 <jberkus> anyone have other items to discuss?
17:50:40 <dustymabe> jberkus: can you set up a meeting?
17:50:42 <dustymabe> for that
17:50:47 <jberkus> dustymabe: will do
17:50:58 <jberkus> ok, I have one other item: we need chairs for the upcoming meetings
17:51:25 <jberkus> specifically, I'd like a volunteer for next week
17:51:56 <jberkus> maxamillion dustymabe sayan ?
17:52:13 <jbrooks> jberkus, I can do it next week
17:52:21 <jberkus> thanks
17:52:23 <dustymabe> jbrooks++
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17:52:31 <maxamillion> jberkus++
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17:52:32 <jberkus> ok, we're done
17:52:35 <maxamillion> thanks all!
17:52:37 <jberkus> #endmeeting