14:03:01 #startmeeting fedora-qadevel 14:03:01 Meeting started Mon Jul 18 14:03:01 2016 UTC. The chair is tflink. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 14:03:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 14:03:01 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-qadevel' 14:03:07 #topic Roll Call 14:03:13 * mkrizek is here 14:04:01 * garretraziel is here 14:05:39 this may be a very short meeting :) 14:05:47 * omiday is here 14:05:47 #chair mkrizek garretraziel 14:05:47 Current chairs: garretraziel mkrizek tflink 14:06:13 omiday: welcome 14:06:19 #chair omiday 14:06:19 Current chairs: garretraziel mkrizek omiday tflink 14:06:23 hello everyone 14:06:54 #topic Announcements and Information 14:07:01 #info upstream phabricator isn't interested in any of the patches we would need to make auth work again, will be writing it as an extension or out-of-band patch - tflink 14:07:02 #info rpmgrill deployed to dev - mkrizek 14:07:11 any comments or questions? 14:07:23 none here 14:08:04 nope 14:08:21 alrighty, moving on, then 14:08:52 don't wait for me though, still catching up 14:09:20 hrm, is there a point in going into much else when we're missing so many folks today? 14:09:43 not so much I guess 14:09:49 * tflink proposes tasking and then open floor 14:09:55 wfm 14:10:05 I'm okay with it 14:10:10 #topic tasking 14:10:16 is anyone in need of stuff to do? 14:10:18 * kparal is late 14:10:34 kparal: no worries 14:10:57 * mkrizek still has stuff to do 14:10:59 I mean ... how dare you disrespect this meeting with your tardiness ... 14:11:06 :-P 14:11:22 no tasking needed for me, but I'd like to hear more details about phab auth 14:11:41 kparal: details as in how I'm planning to fix it? 14:11:47 I'll work on openQA, so not me 14:12:14 tflink: you talked to them and they said they don't care about openid/persona? 14:12:26 persona is effectively dead 14:12:33 openid is a PITA 14:12:47 * tflink is working on an auth adapter for ipsilon 14:13:00 has the current issue been identified? do we know what needs to get fixed? 14:13:12 i don't see a point in fixing it, honestly 14:13:21 persona is going EOL in november 14:13:23 will the ipsilon adapter work around the issue? 14:13:44 yes, it will replace the code that's currently causing the issue 14:14:01 sounds good 14:14:10 but I guess it's pretty to write the adapter? 14:14:14 *difficult 14:14:32 we'd be using the oauth2 bits of ipsilon and there's already oauth2 providers in the phab codebase 14:14:37 * kparal has the utmost respect for people writing auth infra 14:14:53 if I was better with php and familiar with phabricator, it'd be much easier 14:15:02 it looks to be a pretty small patch 14:15:23 ok, so we will connect it through oauth2 14:15:37 yep 14:15:40 * omiday wonders why phabricator vs pagure 14:15:43 ok, thanks for details 14:15:53 omiday: pagure wasn't a thing when we started using phabricator 14:16:03 and also phab reviews are awesome 14:16:32 yeah, the learning curve is a bit steeper but you do get things in return for learning how it works 14:16:55 or at least better than the competition, including big projects like github :) 14:17:19 right, but it's php whereas pagure is python - how hard to implement missing features in pagure given that most projects are moving there? 14:17:46 * omiday didn't intend to hijack the discussion though 14:17:50 omiday: but moving at this point would be nontrivial 14:17:54 to say the least 14:18:09 tflink: gotcha 14:18:38 we've floated phabricator as an option for other teams and so far, there's been no real interest 14:18:53 thoguht about gerrit before? 14:19:01 php > java 14:19:12 is it? phew 14:19:22 in my mind, anyways 14:19:45 one of the advantages of phab is that it isn't a bunch of disjoint systems 14:19:59 and overall, I think it's probably less maintenance work 14:20:22 this is the first big-ish problem we've hit in what .. 3 years? 14:20:52 yeah and I also don't think that it is severe enought for us to change our collaboration tool 14:21:06 yes, so far Phab has been pretty good and painless 14:21:11 except for this auth issue 14:21:49 I'm sort of familiar with it from a sysadmin perspective - have had one of the developer teams using it at my workplace 14:23:01 and the root of the auth issue is that persona is going away . not sure how we could have anticipated that one :) 14:23:11 not me :) 14:23:46 anyhow, moving on to open floor :) 14:23:52 #topic Open Floor 14:24:08 any other topics that people want to cover? 14:24:28 yeah I wanted to ask about that broken libtaskotron dependencies error mail 14:24:40 AFAIK, 14:25:08 it *should* be fixed now 14:25:09 that's a testcloud issue caused by some problem with libguestfs on aarch64 14:25:29 at least that's what I thought it was 14:25:57 yeah, I excluded testcloud from arm and so that's why libtaskotron fails on arm on rawhide 14:26:06 ah 14:26:15 because of the libguestfs issue 14:26:42 testcloud now builds in rawhide so it should be fixed now, if not, I'll investigate tomorrow 14:26:52 do we have any idea if/when a fix is anticipated for libguestfs? 14:27:22 well, like I said, testcloud builds so libguestfs is fixed, maybe? 14:27:48 ok, we'll see either way 14:29:09 if there's nothing else, I'll light the fuse 14:29:46 thanks for coming, everyone 14:29:52 * tflink will send out minutes shortly 14:29:55 #endmeeting