15:09:48 #startmeeting Server Working Group Weekly Meeting 15:09:48 Meeting started Tue Aug 16 15:09:48 2016 UTC. The chair is jds2001. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:09:48 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:09:48 The meeting name has been set to 'server_working_group_weekly_meeting' 15:09:48 #chair danofsatx nirik adamw ]mhayden jds2001 mjwolf hanthana 15:09:48 Current chairs: ]mhayden adamw danofsatx hanthana jds2001 mjwolf nirik 15:09:48 #meetingname ServerSIG 15:09:48 The meeting name has been set to 'serversig' 15:09:49 #topic Roll Call 15:09:58 .hello jstanley 15:09:59 jds2001: jstanley 'Jon Stanley' 15:10:01 .hello sgallagh 15:10:04 .hello kevin 15:10:05 sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' 15:10:08 .hello mhayden 15:10:08 nirik: kevin 'Kevin Fenzi' 15:10:11 mhayden: mhayden 'Major Hayden' 15:11:32 hmm, not good turnout 15:12:11 .hello vvaldez 15:12:12 vvaldez: vvaldez 'Vinny Valdez' 15:12:14 jds2001: usually everyone leaves when i show up to a meeting at work 15:12:37 mhayden: they're just scared you'll lay the hammer down :D 15:14:38 i only have a toy hammer with soft ends :) 15:14:55 mizmo: Are you around? 15:15:02 /me notes that she was missed in the chair list 15:15:10 sgallagh, i am 15:15:28 she stpped down, right? Or am i mistaking something? 15:15:33 i did step down 15:15:42 if you want a heckler tho ill heckle 15:15:44 mizmo: Oh, I think I missed that. Sorry to bother you. 15:15:49 no probs 15:15:55 Wait, so how many open seats are there now? 15:15:59 actually im glad you pinged me cuz im kinda interested 15:16:42 iirc she stepped down so mjwolf could be on the WG? 15:16:45 .hello adamwill 15:16:46 adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' 15:16:55 jds2001: I think you might be right. 15:18:03 Given the two unfilled seats, I think four voting members is legitimately quorum 15:18:12 yeah, same here. 15:18:22 #topic sgallagh nomination to WG 15:18:26 all in favor? 15:18:27 +1 15:18:29 +10 15:19:46 * bconoboy nudges mhayden adamw danofsatx hanthana mjwolf 15:19:54 +3.14 15:20:11 sure, whatever 15:20:31 welcome back sgallagh 15:20:34 #chair sgallagh 15:20:34 Current chairs: ]mhayden adamw danofsatx hanthana jds2001 mjwolf nirik sgallagh 15:20:54 * mhayden high fives sgallagh 15:20:57 #unchair ]mhayden 15:20:57 Current chairs: adamw danofsatx hanthana jds2001 mjwolf nirik sgallagh 15:20:57 adamw: Your endorsement is appreciated ;-) 15:21:06 #chair mhayden 15:21:06 Current chairs: adamw danofsatx hanthana jds2001 mhayden mjwolf nirik sgallagh 15:21:15 Thanks, it's good to be home 15:21:23 sgallagh: i didn't have coffee yet, be grateful you got something coherent ;) 15:21:49 pffft, west coast people 15:22:30 I think the second order of business was whether to accept dperpeet as a replacement for stefw. 15:22:49 oh, i didnt see that 15:22:54 * jds2001 goes to look 15:22:58 And I think a third item of business would be to issue a whenisgood for a new meeting time, since I'm going to have a conflict right now. 15:23:09 new meeting time would be good for me too 15:23:21 same here -- i have a conflict with this meeting time at work 15:24:20 dperpeet: Thanks for joining us 15:24:30 ahh, missed the entire thread 15:24:34 hi all, thanks for letting me know sgallagh 15:24:45 * jds2001 not sure how that happened :( 15:25:09 actually, inbox overflow is what happened :/ 15:25:32 So, Stef's traditional role on the WG was to represent the interests of the Cockpit Project, which is a key feature of Fedora Server. 15:26:07 Since he has stepped down, he has recommended dperpeet to succeed him in this role. Dominik is a key member of the upstream Cockpit community. 15:26:23 and some of you may have seen me at this year's Flock 15:26:24 #topic dperpeet nomination to WG 15:26:37 +1 here 15:26:47 +1 here also 15:27:24 I'm in favor of keeping close ties with the Cockpit project and dperpeet would be a great addition to this team. So my first +1 back on the WG goes to his nomination :) 15:30:03 adamw, mhayden? 15:30:20 +1 for me as well 15:31:05 like I stated on the thread, I'd be happy to be part of the Server Working Group - I think we are at a crucial point for several key decision in shaping the future - modularization and automation being two central issues 15:32:38 i think that's +4, which is enough??? 15:32:54 jds2001: Technically now that we have 8 sitting members, I think we need +5 15:33:07 +1 15:33:12 There we go 15:33:14 ah, there we go 15:33:18 now let me see what we're voting on 15:33:25 * adamw writes a script to say '+1" every five minutes 15:33:31 adamw, I appreciate your blind faith! 15:33:35 #agreed dperpeet appointed to WG 15:33:53 woot 15:33:57 thanks everyone! 15:34:14 #chair dperpeet 15:34:14 Current chairs: adamw danofsatx dperpeet hanthana jds2001 mhayden mjwolf nirik sgallagh 15:34:37 #topic meeting time 15:34:48 I just sent an email to the list with a whenisgood link 15:34:50 so another thing that came out of that thread is a desire for a new time 15:34:54 Please add your availability there. 15:34:59 awesome 15:35:03 * jkurik just have got an action to reschedule Modularity WG meeting not to conflict with Server WG 15:35:58 jkurik: Well, probably you can hold off on that, since this current time is unlikely to remain 15:36:00 jkurik: oops. 15:36:10 jkurik: hopefully we dont both choose hte same? :D 15:36:37 jkurik: Maybe wait until Server WG selects a time? It's unlikely to be the same as the current one 15:36:44 I'm not the only person with a conflict right now 15:37:19 I will wait for the Server WG to choose their meeting time 15:38:11 sgallagh: are you the only one that wants the modularlity wg rescheduled? 15:38:18 or are there others with conflicts there as well? 15:38:45 jds2001: Well, going forward I expect that we'll see a lot of crossover with the doers on both teams 15:38:54 So having the meeting at the same time would be non-ideal 15:38:56 yep 15:39:24 nah, i was wondering if the reschedule was just to avoid this, or other things as well 15:39:37 i think it makes sense for us to move. 15:39:40 thanks everyone, I have to leave now (dinner time) 15:39:42 jds2001: Well, mhayden also can't make this time 15:39:54 And I'd rather move the meeting than lose his participation, personally 15:40:00 dperpeet: no problem! 15:40:25 dperpeet: Thanks, and welcome! 15:40:43 sgallagh: me too 15:41:08 And given how frequently we have trouble with quorum, I'm guessing this isn't the best time for some of our other members as well 15:42:44 #info Please respond to the WhenIsGood request so we can find a new meeting time 15:43:38 sgallagh: responded (not sure if you wanted non-chairs to respond) 15:44:26 vvaldez: It's fine, though if it comes down to excluding you in order to fit everyone else in, please do not be offended :) 15:44:51 sgallagh: I've been married almost 16 years, I can't be offended 15:44:54 OK, anything else on today's agenda? I am still finding my feet, so I'll hopefully have some thoughts on the list over the next week 15:45:45 i dont think so, but lets regroup with a little more order next week if possible :) 15:45:53 the arm sig is also scheduled at this slot which takes up RCM attention 15:46:22 jds2001: Yeah, if nothing else, I will take over agenda-gathering duties again 15:46:53 so are we going to set a deadline on the whenisgood? 15:47:04 i.e. do we want to move next week's meeting based on it? 15:47:17 (are all seats filled now? because smooge just self nominated on list 5 minutes ago) 15:47:19 Let's keep this slot for one more week 15:47:32 Oh, one more topic 15:47:51 #topic WG Interest Recertification 15:48:08 nirik sent an email requesting WG members to assert their continued interest 15:48:18 * jds2001 is certifiably interested :) 15:48:56 I propose that anyone who has not replied formally by an identified #topic in the meeting next week is considered to have stepped down 15:49:06 We should send a reminder and a notice to this effect. 15:49:11 i'm interested but i am concerned with the time i can commit :/ 15:49:37 mhayden: if we move the meeting does it work better for you? 15:49:44 * adamw is still around, he guesses 15:49:48 sgallagh: I'm still interested do you want a reply to the email? 15:49:51 jds2001: that would help 15:50:00 mjwolf: Please do 15:50:30 sgallagh: I'd recommend sending personal emails to each WG member if there is an ACTION REQUIRED, as it were 15:50:37 I suspect that at least one person is not going to reply (I imagine you can all guess who), so we probably will have room for smooge after next week 15:50:42 jds2001: i use fedora server quite frequently, but i don't use some of the newer functionality much (cockpit, rolekit, etc), but i am happy to help if my input is still valuable 15:51:00 nirik: Were the members BCCed on the original message? 15:51:10 no, I just sent to the list 15:51:37 mhayden: Well, we're looking at retooling to focus on modular installation and deployment going forward. Is that something you would like to have a hand in (or input on)? 15:51:52 sgallagh: definitely 15:51:53 nirik: OK, I'll send a follow-up with the members CCed directly 15:52:01 ok, might be good. 15:52:20 #action sgallagh to send a reminder email about WG interest and CC members directly. 15:54:19 OK, I have nothing else for today. 15:55:26 * jds2001 either 15:55:47 * nirik either 15:56:01 * adamw either - sgallagh, i'll test the sssd fix later, some other alpha stuff took all my time yesterday. 15:56:56 adamw: Not a problem. The patch is really straightforward (it's not actually a *fix* it's a "don't crash" patch) 15:59:31 seems there's nothing else..... 15:59:35 ending the meeting in 15:59:36 3 15:59:39 2 15:59:42 1 15:59:45 #endmeeting