17:07:34 <dustymabe> #startmeeting fedora cloud WG
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17:07:42 <dustymabe> .hellomynameis dustymabe
17:07:43 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dustymabe@redhat.com>
17:07:45 <vvaldez> .hello vvaldez
17:07:46 <zodbot> vvaldez: vvaldez 'Vinny Valdez' <vvaldez@redhat.com>
17:07:54 <trishnag> .hello trishnag
17:07:54 <zodbot> trishnag: trishnag 'Trishna Guha' <trishnaguha17@gmail.com>
17:07:59 <dustymabe> welcome vvaldez!
17:08:03 <coremodule> .hello coremodule
17:08:05 <zodbot> coremodule: coremodule 'Geoffrey Marr' <gmarr@redhat.com>
17:08:14 <dustymabe> coremodule: \o?
17:08:17 <dustymabe> \o/
17:08:22 <jbrooks> .hello jasonbrooks
17:08:23 <zodbot> jbrooks: jasonbrooks 'Jason Brooks' <JBROOKS@REDHAT.COM>
17:08:26 <walters> .hello walters
17:08:27 <zodbot> walters: walters 'Colin Walters' <walters@redhat.com>
17:08:42 <walters> jbrooks, i see you've gone all MIT DOMAIN NAME on us!
17:08:50 <dustymabe> :)
17:08:51 <maxamillion> .hello maxamillion
17:08:52 <zodbot> maxamillion: maxamillion 'Adam Miller' <maxamillion@gmail.com>
17:08:58 <jbrooks> I don't know how to de-caps that
17:09:43 <dustymabe> #chair vvaldez trishnag coremodule jbrooks walters maxamillion
17:09:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: coremodule dustymabe jbrooks maxamillion trishnag vvaldez walters
17:10:20 * dustymabe is going to find items from last meeting
17:10:49 <dustymabe> #topic previous meeting action items
17:10:52 <dustymabe> * kushal to start off the atomic workgroup discussion on mailing list
17:10:54 <dustymabe> * rtnpro will add test workflow (and test cases) for testing fedora-motd
17:10:56 <dustymabe> on F24 atomic image
17:10:58 <dustymabe> * kushal to write to infra for permission to update Autocloud tests
17:11:00 <dustymabe> while in freeze
17:11:02 <dustymabe> * gholms to test updated cloud-init on f24 for f25
17:11:32 <kushal> but I am called in :)
17:11:39 <dustymabe> #chair kushal
17:11:39 <zodbot> Current chairs: coremodule dustymabe jbrooks kushal maxamillion trishnag vvaldez walters
17:11:48 <kushal> really sorry for that starting the mail thread on wg renaming.
17:11:54 <kushal> But I sent out the mail.
17:12:02 <dustymabe> kushal: yep, just saw it
17:12:10 <kushal> also waiting for another +1 for FBR
17:12:13 <sayan> .hello sayanchowdhury
17:12:14 <zodbot> sayan: sayanchowdhury 'Sayan Chowdhury' <sayan.chowdhury2012@gmail.com>
17:12:18 <dustymabe> #chair sayan
17:12:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: coremodule dustymabe jbrooks kushal maxamillion sayan trishnag vvaldez walters
17:12:22 <sayan> sorry for being late here
17:12:24 <dustymabe> FBR?
17:12:33 <kushal> Freeze break request :)
17:12:49 <dustymabe> what does the freeze break enable?
17:13:06 <dustymabe> is gholms around today?
17:13:36 <kushal> dustymabe, i need permission to update the tests, tomorrow is a holiday
17:13:43 <kushal> will do that update on Friday
17:14:00 <dustymabe> ok
17:14:11 <dustymabe> gholms and rtnpro are away today
17:14:28 * kushal goes back to the corner to get some dinner
17:14:38 <dustymabe> #info kushal started wg renaming discussion on the mail list - https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/cloud@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/4MWAV7K43GMEM6MP7GUUIVVXVA3G6OG5/
17:14:54 <dustymabe> #action rtnpro will add test workflow (and test cases) for testing fedora-motd on F24 atomic image
17:15:18 <dustymabe> #action gholms to test updated cloud-init on f24 for f25
17:15:41 <dustymabe> #info kushal needs one more +1 for FBR to update autocloud tests while in freeze
17:15:50 <dustymabe> did I cover everything?
17:16:39 <dustymabe> ok moving on to meeting items
17:16:59 <dustymabe> imcleod is not around so won't talk about #136 vagrant boxes fixups
17:17:17 <dustymabe> #topic #125 Fedora-Dockerfiles examples for Kubernetes
17:17:25 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/125
17:17:46 <dustymabe> I think jberkus is at linuxcon
17:17:48 <dustymabe> so...
17:17:56 <dustymabe> will wait 15 seconds and then move on
17:18:33 <dustymabe> #topic #147 Don't overwrite download location for 2 week atomic images
17:18:42 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/147
17:19:21 <dustymabe> maxamillion is managing this
17:19:53 <dustymabe> he was going to monkey patch things to get them to a better state - everything needs a rewrite, but no time for that right now
17:20:09 <dustymabe> i'm going to assume it is in the same state it was last time
17:20:17 <maxamillion> it's on my TODO list, I had hoped to get to it last week but just didn't ... it's still on my list of things to actively work on as I'm able to
17:20:45 <dustymabe> maxamillion: and we appreciate everything you do - your expectations of yourself are higher than anyone elses
17:20:58 <dustymabe> moving on...
17:21:06 <dustymabe> #topic #153 design, deploy and document Fedora OpenShift Playground (FOSP)
17:21:13 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/153
17:22:14 <maxamillion> dustymabe: <3
17:22:17 <dustymabe> misc: scollier
17:22:22 <dustymabe> anything on this?
17:22:36 <maxamillion> dustymabe: sorry for the lag time, I'm also on two meetings right now ... one irc and one on bluejeans :)
17:22:58 <vvaldez> I was talking to scollier about this ticket, I will take a look and see if I can help out here
17:22:59 <dustymabe> maxamillion: that happens
17:23:05 <dustymabe> vvaldez: that would be great
17:23:10 <maxamillion> dustymabe: indeed it does
17:23:59 <dustymabe> vvaldez: if you could sync with scollier and misc to see how you could help
17:24:05 <misc> dustymabe: yep
17:24:15 <vvaldez> dustymabe: will do
17:24:26 <dustymabe> and jberkus :)
17:24:29 <misc> so I ddeployed the VM, now I am trying to make the ansible-openshift repo to work
17:24:52 <misc> I didn't had time to work after monday however, and so far, still blocked on some cert issue likely related to DNS
17:25:30 <misc> (and still need to push a few commits I did, but I am unwilling to push all untested stuff i write before validating them)
17:25:38 <dustymabe> thanks misc
17:26:47 <dustymabe> #action vvaldez to talk with misc, scollier, jberkus about how he can help with FOSP (#153)
17:27:01 <dustymabe> #topic #155 Decide on post-GA update cadence for various deliverables
17:27:06 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/155
17:27:25 <dustymabe> jbrooks: maxamillion: we had a discussion about this last time
17:27:34 <dustymabe> or maybe it was two weeks ago
17:27:40 <dustymabe> did we reach concensus
17:27:42 <dustymabe> ?
17:27:44 <jbrooks> I think both
17:27:55 <jbrooks> maxamillion sent out a msg to the list w/ a proposal
17:28:13 <jbrooks> looking for the link
17:28:54 <dustymabe> jbrooks: yeah I missed it
17:29:01 <dustymabe> some searching didn't show up anything
17:29:08 <jbrooks> Oh, it was the releng list
17:29:13 <dustymabe> k
17:29:17 <maxamillion> I dropped it in the original ticket for it
17:29:19 <maxamillion> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/rel-eng@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/B73P6EDFVKZCMHJ75LBOWUMOJTI34N7N/
17:30:24 <maxamillion> but yeah, I think the plan from the rel-eng ticket #6313 is the direction everyone wants to go so we can probably close cloud ticket #155 with that information
17:31:05 <dustymabe> wow - lots of discussion there in that thread
17:31:14 <dustymabe> from a quick read I think that was what we wanted
17:31:39 <jbrooks> +1
17:32:16 <dustymabe> ok can we update our ticket #155 with that information?
17:33:18 <dustymabe> I'll update the ticket
17:33:21 <dustymabe> moving on
17:33:37 <dustymabe> is kushal still around?
17:33:45 <dustymabe> #topic #167 Decide a process about failed tests for Autocloud
17:33:54 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/167
17:34:33 <dustymabe> i think he was here but he left
17:34:38 <dustymabe> trishnag: do you know?
17:35:20 <trishnag> dustymabe: kushal was online. I guess he is afk for having dinner
17:35:31 <dustymabe> I think for this ticket it would be nice to stop the release for a failing test
17:35:33 <trishnag> Not sure though
17:35:46 <dustymabe> but we must make sure we have resources to fix issues when they arise
17:35:51 <dustymabe> otherwise we'll just block release forever
17:36:42 <trishnag> dustymabe: Right user-journal should get logged
17:36:55 <dustymabe> ok i'll add comments to the ticket
17:37:18 <dustymabe> moving on...
17:37:20 <trishnag> dustymabe: Sure. I will talk to kushal tomorrow if he is not around now.
17:37:24 <dustymabe> #topic #168 Put OpenShift Origin in Container with Fedora Base
17:37:30 <dustymabe> #link https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/168
17:39:40 <dustymabe> ok I guess no one has anything for that
17:39:46 <walters> one thing that's really nice about CentOS CP is it pulls from upstream automatically
17:40:17 <walters> although i'm not sure it's as rigorous about source tracking
17:40:27 <dustymabe> ok
17:41:04 <maxamillion> this appears to be part of Project FAO https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives/ProjectFAO ->  http://etherpad.osuosl.org/fao_installation_notes
17:41:13 <maxamillion> but just not labeled as such? or maybe I'm missing something
17:41:43 <walters> yeah, looks like it
17:42:04 <maxamillion> I'm +1 for it :)
17:42:20 <nzwulfin> it looks like everything cascades from this Dockerfile https://github.com/tdawson/origin/blob/2016-centos-images/images/base/Dockerfile.centos7 ?
17:42:51 <dustymabe> can we update the ticket with this information?
17:43:10 <maxamillion> I guess I don't know what about ticket #168 we're targeting ... are we voting on doing it or not doing it? do we need people to work on it? just chatting about it? status update?
17:43:42 <nzwulfin> "
17:43:55 <dustymabe> well scollier opened the ticket
17:43:55 <nzwulfin> sorry
17:44:08 <dustymabe> so maybe we can add the information in the ticket and also ask the same questions there
17:44:10 <dustymabe> so he can respond
17:44:25 <misc> IIRC, scott is away for 1 or 2 weeks
17:44:38 <dustymabe> misc: maybe, but he might see email in the meantime
17:45:16 <maxamillion> sounds good
17:45:19 <maxamillion> I'll add notes
17:45:20 <dustymabe> maxamillion: do you mind updating the ticket?
17:45:22 <dustymabe> thanks!
17:45:28 <dustymabe> #topic open floor
17:45:35 <dustymabe> gholms: there was an action item from you from last meeting
17:45:39 <dustymabe> about cloud-init
17:45:41 <nzwulfin> i'll add some too once i see maxamillion's update
17:45:54 <dustymabe> any update on that
17:46:14 <jbrooks> Is it too early to start thinking about the next Atomic Test Day? I'd like to collab w/ CentOS again on this
17:46:26 <gholms> Nothing yet, no.  I tried messing around with building F25 images and got sidetracked.
17:47:33 <maxamillion> nzwulfin: update is in
17:48:18 <nzwulfin> maxamillion: cheers thanks
17:48:22 <dustymabe> jbrooks: not too early
17:48:25 <dustymabe> let's schedule it
17:49:00 <jbrooks> when do you think makes sense?
17:49:06 <trishnag> +1 on Atomic test day
17:49:53 <dustymabe> jbrooks: much closer to fedora 25 release?
17:50:13 <jbrooks> With f24, it was about a month before scheduled release, 6 weeks from actual
17:50:14 <dustymabe> but I guess we can really do test days more regularly
17:50:21 <dustymabe> since we release more often
17:50:38 <dustymabe> TBH we have had several fumbles with F24
17:50:45 <dustymabe> with the tree moving locations
17:50:49 <jbrooks> Yeah, +1 to that, I'd like to start having some scheduled office hours type thing for atomic
17:50:57 <dustymabe> even now the ISO images are built with the wrong tree
17:51:06 <dustymabe> maxamillion: walters ^^
17:51:12 <dustymabe> I sent an email about this last night
17:51:14 <jbrooks> Where we can get together and work on stuff, and field Q's, and check the ask sites and whatnot
17:51:58 <dustymabe> yeah jbrooks I would love that - just hope I can actually break away and be a real contributor on the day of
17:52:15 <jbrooks> Yeah, that's why a rolling thing might be workable
17:52:23 <dustymabe> gholms: I re-actioned you on that item for next week
17:52:26 <dustymabe> hope that is ok
17:52:31 <gholms> Thanks
17:52:35 <jbrooks> It can sometimes be hard when it's two test days a year, more or less
17:53:05 <walters> dustymabe, i think that's for #fedora-releng right?
17:53:34 <dustymabe> walters: TBH sometimes I don't know who to tell
17:53:49 <dustymabe> I'll send it there way and see what comes back
17:53:56 <dustymabe> their*
17:54:06 <walters> dustymabe, i think the thing that causes pain here is bodhi is distinct from pungi
17:54:34 <dustymabe> *cough* bowlofeggs *cough*
17:54:52 <dustymabe> bowlofeggs might be able to help us with stuff like that in the future
17:55:09 <walters> mostly with RPMs it doesn't matter much, but the server-side identity matters a lot more with ostree
17:55:54 <bowlofeggs> hahahaha
17:56:17 <dustymabe> ok so I'll see if I can take that up with releng
17:56:25 <dustymabe> anyone have anything else for today's meeting?
17:56:37 <nzwulfin> documentation?
17:56:44 <maxamillion> dustymabe: jbrooks: +1
17:57:07 <nzwulfin> we keep talking about re-writing stuff but never get our roundtuits
17:57:27 <dustymabe> nzwulfin: yeah - I would actually love to completely rewrite our kickstarts
17:57:31 <dustymabe> a lot of old cruft in there
17:57:36 <jbrooks> me too
17:57:38 <nzwulfin> yep
17:57:52 <dustymabe> ok closing meeting now
17:57:56 <nzwulfin> we're getting tickets against teh getting started for CAH7 when I wrote it on F22
17:58:26 <dustymabe> #endmeeting