12:04:15 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Fedora Badges 12:04:15 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov 23 12:04:15 2016 UTC. The chair is riecatnor. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 12:04:15 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 12:04:15 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_badges' 12:04:20 <riecatnor> #chair mleonova 12:04:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: mleonova riecatnor 12:04:58 <mleonova> rollcall? 12:05:00 <riecatnor> #meetingname Fedora Badges 12:05:00 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_badges' 12:05:06 <riecatnor> .hello riecatnor 12:05:07 <zodbot> riecatnor: riecatnor 'None' <riecatnor@gmail.com> 12:05:16 <mleonova> .hello mleonova 12:05:17 <zodbot> mleonova: mleonova 'Maria Leonova' <mleonova@redhat.com> 12:06:02 <riecatnor> ok so last time we spoke about using some of this time to talk about different badge promotions and website stuff 12:06:10 <riecatnor> though the queue probably also needs attention 12:06:14 <mleonova> yep 12:06:16 <riecatnor> so lets talk first, and see what we have left 12:06:20 <mleonova> okay 12:06:48 <riecatnor> I wrote up a huge thing for this pagure issue, and it disappeared :( https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5553 12:07:01 <mleonova> oh no! 12:07:04 <riecatnor> so I was writing up a shorter comment just a few minutes ago 12:07:17 <riecatnor> yeah i asked jflory7 about it and he said that it is common on the pagure site for now 12:07:30 <riecatnor> if you want to take a look at that, could use your input :) 12:07:43 <mleonova> true - we figured it's best to copy your comment before submitting just in case it dissapears 12:08:02 <riecatnor> yeah jflory7 recommended the same :P 12:08:19 <mleonova> there is so much written there, what do you want to discuss? 12:08:52 <riecatnor> well, I think we just need to put any thoughts we have for the transition so they can be taken into account when migrating 12:09:08 <riecatnor> my comment is mainly about using a standard set of tags 12:09:45 <riecatnor> also i am going to mention that the artist badge is manually awarded, and it would be nice for that to be automatic 12:10:20 <mleonova> great points 12:10:46 <mleonova> can we also put the resources there somewhere? 12:10:59 <riecatnor> i will ask what is the best way to store resources 12:11:24 <mleonova> pagure has files tab, so that might work 12:12:43 <mleonova> would be nice to have the functionality for images preview in comments 12:13:04 <riecatnor> agreed 12:14:31 * riecatnor typing it up 12:15:22 <riecatnor> ok any other thoughts? 12:15:37 <mleonova> also would be nice if files got attached to the ticket in general 12:15:46 <mleonova> not to every comment 12:16:04 <mleonova> so they would be all in one place 12:16:09 <mleonova> what do you think?\ 12:16:32 <riecatnor> i agree with that, but i dont know much about how pagure works so im not familiar with the current system of attaching files 12:17:03 <riecatnor> if we do want the images to pop up in a comment, the file may need to be attached in that comment? 12:17:27 <mleonova> I mean like we have now - png in comment, svg to the ticket 12:17:35 <riecatnor> ah gotcha 12:17:40 <riecatnor> ok, i will suggest that 12:17:49 <mleonova> great 12:19:33 <riecatnor> next topic as I finish this up 12:19:57 <riecatnor> jflory7 mentioned that the comm ops blog is the best place to advertise badges work 12:20:18 <riecatnor> he said the magazine is more user centric and less for contributors.. I am fine with that 12:20:44 <mleonova> ok, yeah 12:20:56 <mleonova> we can also blog and it will go to fedora planet 12:21:09 <riecatnor> does the comm ops blog go directly to the planet? 12:21:12 <riecatnor> as well? 12:21:21 <mleonova> I'm not sure 12:21:54 <riecatnor> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/ 12:23:06 <mleonova> oh yeah, looks like it does 12:23:50 <mleonova> both magazine and community blog 12:24:17 <riecatnor> i like the idea of blogging ourselves, but it would be nice for it to be more “official” feeling.. i’ve put out lists of badges to work on before and it doesn’t do that much.. i’d like to see how having it come from a different source effects contributions 12:24:37 <riecatnor> also im sure the community blog gets more traffic than my blog :P 12:25:04 <mleonova> absolutely 12:25:20 <mleonova> I mean we could repost community blog for good measure =) 12:25:39 <riecatnor> i think we should make a plan on frequency, and parameters for the blog post 12:25:50 <riecatnor> i think we shouldnt advertise more than three per post 12:26:14 <mleonova> we can decide every badges meeting what to advertise 12:26:24 <mleonova> so every other week? 12:26:37 <riecatnor> giving a long list could be overwhelming.. and if we focus on a few that will allow us to write a tid bit about each one to get people interested 12:26:45 <mleonova> agreed 12:26:48 <riecatnor> that sounds good for frequency 12:26:56 <riecatnor> we could take turns so each of us is doing it once a month 12:27:10 <mleonova> ok! 12:28:09 <riecatnor> next question i have on this is who/where to get the post on the commops blog 12:28:16 <riecatnor> i have a feeling this is a question for jflory7 12:28:43 <mleonova> sounds like it 12:29:06 <riecatnor> he said he was going to try to make it, but i betcha he is asleep still hehe 12:29:27 <mleonova> yeah) 12:30:39 * riecatnor is still writing up the pagure issue 12:30:53 <riecatnor> ok so, we decided on a system for the blogging 12:31:19 <riecatnor> it may be nice to make a pic/banner to go with our badge posts 12:31:46 <riecatnor> i don’t really want to make one every time, and since the artwork isn’t made yet for the ones we are advertising that doesn’t help :P 12:32:04 <mleonova> like a general kind of banner? 12:32:13 <riecatnor> yep, but badge themed 12:33:07 <mleonova> so maybe a bunch of badgers and pandas and badge shapes? 12:33:35 <mleonova> or a collage of previous badges 12:33:42 <riecatnor> something like that! I think it should be in the vein of a call to action 12:34:00 <riecatnor> i think keeping it simple is a good idea.. looking at what is on the blog now, its all pretty simple 12:34:42 <mleonova> agreed 12:35:00 <mleonova> do you want to do mockups and compare next time? 12:35:25 <mleonova> or do you have smt in mind? 12:36:12 <mleonova> mb we can use this guy https://mashaleonova.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/apprenticebadgeartist_big2.png?w=660 12:36:20 <riecatnor> I am not sure.. let’s both do what we can between now and the next meeting and compare 12:36:27 <riecatnor> oh yeah! 12:36:28 <mleonova> gal.. badger.. ;) 12:36:38 <riecatnor> we could just take the badge off the artwork and make it the whole banner 12:36:50 <riecatnor> maybe we a border of some sort and a little text 12:36:53 <mleonova> ok, cool, yeah ;) 12:37:04 <riecatnor> with a border* 12:37:25 <riecatnor> ok so I can work on that 12:37:36 <riecatnor> though I am curious what is the standard size for banners on the comm ops blog 12:38:04 <mleonova> https://1504253206.rsc.cdn77.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/have_a_party_25_fixed.png - smt like this? 12:38:32 <riecatnor> yeah that looks right.. i bet i could find that on fedora design trac? 12:38:54 <mleonova> that I don't know 12:39:06 <mleonova> it doesn't look like they have a fixed size 12:39:32 <mleonova> they all look a tad different 12:39:40 * riecatnor does not approve 12:39:54 <mleonova> =) 12:40:18 <riecatnor> i think the link you sent is appropriate sizing for the blog, so thats what i will go with 12:40:40 <mleonova> sweet! so agreed to go with the apprentice banner? 12:40:54 <riecatnor> also, i don’t now where to suggest this, but they should have two standard sizes for their banners. one wide, and one small 12:41:04 <riecatnor> yep! i can work that up for the next meeting 12:41:20 <mleonova> cool ;) hey jflory7 ^^ 12:41:57 <riecatnor> hehe 12:42:00 <sayan> .hello sayanchowdhury 12:42:01 <zodbot> sayan: sayanchowdhury 'Sayan Chowdhury' <sayan.chowdhury2012@gmail.com> 12:42:07 <mleonova> alright. so banner.. and also we'll need to have some sort of our workshop write up for guidance 12:42:13 <mleonova> hey sayan =) 12:42:14 <riecatnor> ok so I finished the comment for pagure 12:42:21 <sayan> mleonova: hey :) 12:42:21 <mleonova> \o/ 12:42:25 <riecatnor> brb, need to put coffee on 12:42:30 <riecatnor> hi sayan 12:42:38 <mleonova> sure 12:42:43 <sayan> riecatnor: hi :) 12:42:55 <sayan> sorry for the late entry 12:43:00 <mleonova> np 12:43:09 * sayan reads the log 12:44:22 <mleonova> so I think we should write a proper guide, put it on our blogs and link to it from the commops post 12:45:20 <riecatnor> so when you say guide, you mean for designing badges? or for making the blog posts 12:45:34 <mleonova> for badges 12:45:53 <riecatnor> so just a standard, heres how to dive in blog post for newcomers 12:46:14 <riecatnor> that we link to in every blog post 12:46:17 <mleonova> yeah 12:46:24 <riecatnor> thats a good idea 12:46:52 <mleonova> it's summed up perfectly in the preso 12:47:12 <mleonova> ok, so you can do the banner and I can do the guide 12:47:19 <riecatnor> ok! sounds great 12:47:30 <mleonova> and the commops blog post should probably be: introduction, guide to badges and the badges up for grabs. 12:47:44 <mleonova> anything else? 12:47:59 <riecatnor> that sounds good, though i do think we should keep the posts it short and sweet 12:48:19 <mleonova> exactly why I want to link the guide ;) 12:48:31 <riecatnor> i wanted to talk about redesigning the website, but i think that is going to take more than ten minutes 12:48:32 <riecatnor> lol 12:48:37 <mleonova> hehe 12:48:39 <mleonova> yeah 12:48:58 <riecatnor> lets look at a few badges 12:49:07 <mleonova> 1 major thing - the default page imo should be your own page 12:49:18 <mleonova> while I didn't forget ;) let's! 12:49:51 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/412 12:51:39 <riecatnor> hmmm 12:52:07 <mleonova> I like the imagery. but maybe the label could have koji logo on 12:52:25 <riecatnor> i was thinking the same.. also im not sure the bg is working for me 12:52:37 <riecatnor> and i also dont think we should change the colors on the package 12:52:50 <riecatnor> but I am not sure where the koji symbol should go, trying to decipher this description 12:54:07 <mleonova> =) 12:54:17 <misc> decipher the description of the action ? 12:54:39 <riecatnor> :P 12:54:53 <mleonova> hey misc =) 12:55:00 <misc> hi mleonova and riecatnor o/ 12:55:04 <riecatnor> i gotta get to work.. can’t think properly about this badge and give it the thought it needs 12:55:08 <riecatnor> hiya misc 12:55:18 <riecatnor> so I am going to end the meeting for today 12:55:25 <mleonova> hehe =) ok, let's start with it next time 12:55:29 <riecatnor> thanks for being awesome, as always mleonova :) 12:55:35 <riecatnor> #endmeeting