12:04:15 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Fedora Badges
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12:04:20 <riecatnor> #chair mleonova
12:04:20 <zodbot> Current chairs: mleonova riecatnor
12:04:58 <mleonova> rollcall?
12:05:00 <riecatnor> #meetingname Fedora Badges
12:05:00 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_badges'
12:05:06 <riecatnor> .hello riecatnor
12:05:07 <zodbot> riecatnor: riecatnor 'None' <riecatnor@gmail.com>
12:05:16 <mleonova> .hello mleonova
12:05:17 <zodbot> mleonova: mleonova 'Maria Leonova' <mleonova@redhat.com>
12:06:02 <riecatnor> ok so last time we spoke about using some of this time to talk about different badge promotions and website stuff
12:06:10 <riecatnor> though the queue probably also needs attention
12:06:14 <mleonova> yep
12:06:16 <riecatnor> so lets talk first, and see what we have left
12:06:20 <mleonova> okay
12:06:48 <riecatnor> I wrote up a huge thing for this pagure issue, and it disappeared :( https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5553
12:07:01 <mleonova> oh no!
12:07:04 <riecatnor> so I was writing up a shorter comment just a few minutes ago
12:07:17 <riecatnor> yeah i asked jflory7 about it and he said that it is common on the pagure site for now
12:07:30 <riecatnor> if you want to take a look at that, could use your input :)
12:07:43 <mleonova> true - we figured it's best to copy your comment before submitting just in case it dissapears
12:08:02 <riecatnor> yeah jflory7 recommended the same :P
12:08:19 <mleonova> there is so much written there, what do you want to discuss?
12:08:52 <riecatnor> well, I think we just need to put any thoughts we have for the transition so they can be taken into account when migrating
12:09:08 <riecatnor> my comment is mainly about using a standard set of tags
12:09:45 <riecatnor> also i am going to mention that the artist badge is manually awarded, and it would be nice for that to be automatic
12:10:20 <mleonova> great points
12:10:46 <mleonova> can we also put the resources there somewhere?
12:10:59 <riecatnor> i will ask what is the best way to store resources
12:11:24 <mleonova> pagure has files tab, so that might work
12:12:43 <mleonova> would be nice to have the functionality for images preview in comments
12:13:04 <riecatnor> agreed
12:14:31 * riecatnor typing it up
12:15:22 <riecatnor> ok any other thoughts?
12:15:37 <mleonova> also would be nice if files got attached to the ticket in general
12:15:46 <mleonova> not to every comment
12:16:04 <mleonova> so they would be all in one place
12:16:09 <mleonova> what do you think?\
12:16:32 <riecatnor> i agree with that, but i dont know much about how pagure works so im not familiar with the current system of attaching files
12:17:03 <riecatnor> if we do want the images to pop up in a comment, the file may need to be attached in that comment?
12:17:27 <mleonova> I mean like we have now - png in comment, svg to the ticket
12:17:35 <riecatnor> ah gotcha
12:17:40 <riecatnor> ok, i will suggest that
12:17:49 <mleonova> great
12:19:33 <riecatnor> next topic as I finish this up
12:19:57 <riecatnor> jflory7 mentioned that the comm ops blog is the best place to advertise badges work
12:20:18 <riecatnor> he said the magazine is more user centric and less for contributors.. I am fine with that
12:20:44 <mleonova> ok, yeah
12:20:56 <mleonova> we can also blog and it will go to fedora planet
12:21:09 <riecatnor> does the comm ops blog go directly to the planet?
12:21:12 <riecatnor> as well?
12:21:21 <mleonova> I'm not sure
12:21:54 <riecatnor> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/
12:23:06 <mleonova> oh yeah, looks like it does
12:23:50 <mleonova> both magazine and community blog
12:24:17 <riecatnor> i like the idea of blogging ourselves, but it would be nice for it to be more “official” feeling.. i’ve put out lists of badges to work on before and it doesn’t do that much.. i’d like to see how having it come from a different source effects contributions
12:24:37 <riecatnor> also im sure the community blog gets more traffic than my blog :P
12:25:04 <mleonova> absolutely
12:25:20 <mleonova> I mean we could repost community blog for good measure =)
12:25:39 <riecatnor> i think we should make a plan on frequency, and parameters for the blog post
12:25:50 <riecatnor> i think we shouldnt advertise more than three per post
12:26:14 <mleonova> we can decide every badges meeting what to advertise
12:26:24 <mleonova> so every other week?
12:26:37 <riecatnor> giving a long list could be overwhelming.. and if we focus on a few that will allow us to write a tid bit about each one to get people interested
12:26:45 <mleonova> agreed
12:26:48 <riecatnor> that sounds good for frequency
12:26:56 <riecatnor> we could take turns so each of us is doing it once a month
12:27:10 <mleonova> ok!
12:28:09 <riecatnor> next question i have on this is who/where to get the post on the commops blog
12:28:16 <riecatnor> i have a feeling this is a question for jflory7
12:28:43 <mleonova> sounds like it
12:29:06 <riecatnor> he said he was going to try to make it, but i betcha he is asleep still hehe
12:29:27 <mleonova> yeah)
12:30:39 * riecatnor is still writing up the pagure issue
12:30:53 <riecatnor> ok so, we decided on a system for the blogging
12:31:19 <riecatnor> it may be nice to make a pic/banner to go with our badge posts
12:31:46 <riecatnor> i don’t really want to make one every time, and since the artwork isn’t made yet for the ones we are advertising that doesn’t help :P
12:32:04 <mleonova> like a general kind of banner?
12:32:13 <riecatnor> yep, but badge themed
12:33:07 <mleonova> so maybe a bunch of badgers and pandas and badge shapes?
12:33:35 <mleonova> or a collage of previous badges
12:33:42 <riecatnor> something like that! I think it should be in the vein of a call to action
12:34:00 <riecatnor> i think keeping it simple is a good idea.. looking at what is on the blog now, its all pretty simple
12:34:42 <mleonova> agreed
12:35:00 <mleonova> do you want to do mockups and compare next time?
12:35:25 <mleonova> or do you have smt in mind?
12:36:12 <mleonova> mb we can use this guy https://mashaleonova.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/apprenticebadgeartist_big2.png?w=660
12:36:20 <riecatnor> I am not sure.. let’s both do what we can between now and the next meeting and compare
12:36:27 <riecatnor> oh yeah!
12:36:28 <mleonova> gal.. badger.. ;)
12:36:38 <riecatnor> we could just take the badge off the artwork and make it the whole banner
12:36:50 <riecatnor> maybe we a border of some sort and a little text
12:36:53 <mleonova> ok, cool, yeah ;)
12:37:04 <riecatnor> with a border*
12:37:25 <riecatnor> ok so I can work on that
12:37:36 <riecatnor> though I am curious what is the standard size for banners on the comm ops blog
12:38:04 <mleonova> https://1504253206.rsc.cdn77.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/have_a_party_25_fixed.png - smt like this?
12:38:32 <riecatnor> yeah that looks right.. i bet i could find that on fedora design trac?
12:38:54 <mleonova> that I don't know
12:39:06 <mleonova> it doesn't look like they have a fixed size
12:39:32 <mleonova> they all look a tad different
12:39:40 * riecatnor does not approve
12:39:54 <mleonova> =)
12:40:18 <riecatnor> i think the link you sent is appropriate  sizing for the blog, so thats what i will go with
12:40:40 <mleonova> sweet! so agreed to go with the apprentice banner?
12:40:54 <riecatnor> also, i don’t now where to suggest this, but they should have two standard sizes for their banners. one wide, and one small
12:41:04 <riecatnor> yep! i can work that up for the next meeting
12:41:20 <mleonova> cool ;) hey jflory7 ^^
12:41:57 <riecatnor> hehe
12:42:00 <sayan> .hello sayanchowdhury
12:42:01 <zodbot> sayan: sayanchowdhury 'Sayan Chowdhury' <sayan.chowdhury2012@gmail.com>
12:42:07 <mleonova> alright. so banner.. and also we'll need to have some sort of our workshop write up for guidance
12:42:13 <mleonova> hey sayan =)
12:42:14 <riecatnor> ok so I finished the comment for pagure
12:42:21 <sayan> mleonova: hey :)
12:42:21 <mleonova> \o/
12:42:25 <riecatnor> brb, need to put coffee on
12:42:30 <riecatnor> hi sayan
12:42:38 <mleonova> sure
12:42:43 <sayan> riecatnor: hi :)
12:42:55 <sayan> sorry for the late entry
12:43:00 <mleonova> np
12:43:09 * sayan reads the log
12:44:22 <mleonova> so I think we should write a proper guide, put it on our blogs and link to it from the commops post
12:45:20 <riecatnor> so when you say guide, you mean for designing badges? or for making the blog posts
12:45:34 <mleonova> for badges
12:45:53 <riecatnor> so just a standard, heres how to dive in blog post for newcomers
12:46:14 <riecatnor> that we link to in every blog post
12:46:17 <mleonova> yeah
12:46:24 <riecatnor> thats a good idea
12:46:52 <mleonova> it's summed up perfectly in the preso
12:47:12 <mleonova> ok, so you can do the banner and I can do the guide
12:47:19 <riecatnor> ok! sounds great
12:47:30 <mleonova> and the commops blog post should probably be: introduction, guide to badges and the badges up for grabs.
12:47:44 <mleonova> anything else?
12:47:59 <riecatnor> that sounds good, though i do think we should keep the posts it short and sweet
12:48:19 <mleonova> exactly why I want to link the guide ;)
12:48:31 <riecatnor> i wanted to talk about redesigning the website, but i think that is going to take more than ten minutes
12:48:32 <riecatnor> lol
12:48:37 <mleonova> hehe
12:48:39 <mleonova> yeah
12:48:58 <riecatnor> lets look at a few badges
12:49:07 <mleonova> 1 major thing - the default page imo should be your own page
12:49:18 <mleonova> while I didn't forget ;) let's!
12:49:51 <riecatnor> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/412
12:51:39 <riecatnor> hmmm
12:52:07 <mleonova> I like the imagery. but maybe the label could have koji logo on
12:52:25 <riecatnor> i was thinking the same.. also im not sure the bg is working for me
12:52:37 <riecatnor> and i also dont think we should change the colors on the package
12:52:50 <riecatnor> but I am not sure where the koji symbol should go, trying to decipher this description
12:54:07 <mleonova> =)
12:54:17 <misc> decipher the description of the action ?
12:54:39 <riecatnor> :P
12:54:53 <mleonova> hey misc =)
12:55:00 <misc> hi mleonova and riecatnor o/
12:55:04 <riecatnor> i gotta get to work.. can’t think properly about this badge and give it the thought it needs
12:55:08 <riecatnor> hiya misc
12:55:18 <riecatnor> so I am going to end the meeting for today
12:55:25 <mleonova> hehe =) ok, let's start with it next time
12:55:29 <riecatnor> thanks for being awesome, as always mleonova :)
12:55:35 <riecatnor> #endmeeting