10:59:57 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Fedora Badges
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11:00:06 <riecatnor> #chair mleonova
11:00:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: mleonova riecatnor
11:00:17 <riecatnor> #meetingname Fedora Badges
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11:00:42 <riecatnor> ok so!
11:00:48 <mleonova> so)
11:00:49 <riecatnor> let’s talk about flock first
11:00:53 <riecatnor> #topic flock
11:01:01 <mleonova> ok
11:01:13 <riecatnor> what kind of feedback did you get at the design meeting?
11:01:46 <mleonova> so this past Thursday Mo and Sam were discussing wallpaper the whole hour+
11:02:03 <mleonova> so we didn't get to talk about Flock
11:02:15 <riecatnor> ahh, ok
11:02:44 <mleonova> but from the meeting before that, I remember mizmo being encouraging about the talk and workshop
11:02:45 <riecatnor> so I plan to submit the badges workshop today.. do you have one you are set on proposing>
11:03:13 <mleonova> I didn't register yet, I'm trying to make sure I can get sponsored
11:03:58 <riecatnor> gotcha.. i am working on registering now.. first surprise is they are charging a fee to register
11:04:14 <mleonova> oh, yeah
11:04:22 <mleonova> you don't read flock-planning then?
11:04:35 <mleonova> last year a lot of people registered and didn't show
11:04:44 <riecatnor> no :/ i barely have time to keep up on fedora badges
11:04:54 <riecatnor> ah I see
11:04:57 <mleonova> so a lot of money was lost because of that
11:05:15 <mleonova> and this year it's an attempt to make sure people don't do that
11:05:19 <riecatnor> well I hope to go no matter what as I am so close to where it is being held
11:05:31 <mleonova> hehe, yeah!
11:05:37 <riecatnor> I think I will register then
11:05:41 <riecatnor> still, a surprise
11:05:45 <mleonova> that's why I'm waiting to confirm the sponsorship
11:06:02 <mleonova> =)
11:06:09 <riecatnor> ok, so first thing is that.. if you do get sponsored have you settled on a talk/workshop to present
11:06:21 <mleonova> yes, I have that outline
11:06:39 <mleonova> so once it's confirmed, I'll go ahead and submit the proposal
11:06:44 <riecatnor> ok, great!
11:06:57 <mleonova> and pls mention me in workshop proposal
11:06:59 <mleonova> =)
11:07:02 <riecatnor> yes yes!
11:07:06 <riecatnor> did you get my email>
11:07:11 <mleonova> I did..
11:07:18 <riecatnor> can you review what i wrote
11:07:28 <mleonova> ok, 1 sec
11:08:40 <mleonova> I like the entry! this sentence is a bit overloaded with word badge )) "Earn the Apprentice Badge Artist Badge by creating your first badge"
11:08:52 <riecatnor> ok.. hmm how can we reword this
11:09:09 <riecatnor> Earn the Apprentice Badge Artist Badge by attending this workshop!
11:09:20 <mleonova> still one too many :D
11:09:34 <mleonova> can we leave apprentice artist badge?
11:09:34 <riecatnor> lol
11:09:48 <misc> "earn a exclusive bage by attending that workshop"
11:09:59 <riecatnor> well that makes it seem as tho we are making one jsut for the workshoip
11:10:02 <misc> (also, hi)
11:10:02 <mleonova> or become an apprentice artist and earn your first badge
11:10:08 <riecatnor> which we have talked about doing!
11:10:12 <riecatnor> ooo i like that
11:10:14 <mleonova> hey misc
11:10:18 <riecatnor> hiya misc
11:10:31 <riecatnor> should we make a badge for attending a badges workshop?
11:10:33 <mleonova> we did, I believe one of my interns was working on this jedi thing
11:10:40 * mleonova is looking
11:11:37 <mleonova> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/473
11:12:17 <mleonova> oops, looks like the files didn't get attached
11:12:26 <mleonova> I might have them around, sec
11:12:28 <riecatnor> yes I am seeing that
11:12:29 <riecatnor> ok
11:13:20 <mleonova> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B49ZYioMBNAjQWNzMDhBNHZnMGc/view?usp=sharing
11:13:38 <mleonova> I'll reattach
11:13:50 <riecatnor> oh thats great
11:14:06 <riecatnor> I am just wondering if the background color is good, have you checked>
11:14:26 <mleonova> I might have, but go ahead)
11:15:07 <misc> nice idea :)
11:15:20 <riecatnor> only other pink bg is you ran a class in fedora classroom
11:15:25 <riecatnor> i think these are related enough
11:15:29 <riecatnor> good to approve that artwork
11:15:34 <mleonova> yeah, cool!
11:15:44 <mleonova> I'm reattaching and will approve
11:15:45 <riecatnor> tho now you know we will have requests for special workshop/talk badges
11:15:48 <riecatnor> :P
11:16:08 <mleonova> (tsss) :D
11:16:26 <mleonova> I'm having a major deja vu now
11:16:57 * misc ponder on quoting matrix
11:17:12 <riecatnor> hehehe
11:17:17 <misc> maybe we can have a badge for having a deja vu
11:18:03 <mleonova> misc, go ahead and draw one :)
11:18:13 <riecatnor> yes misc, i would like to see this
11:18:57 <misc> mhh, I can't imagine a concept, so I am not sure I can draw anything :)
11:19:27 <mleonova> misc, something from the matrix, I would imagine
11:19:37 <mleonova> you said it yourself!
11:20:03 <mleonova> ok, riecatnor, so getting back to the draft
11:20:18 <riecatnor> ah yes
11:20:23 <riecatnor> sorry also distracted by registration
11:20:30 <mleonova> np)
11:20:43 <mleonova> can we rephrase the last sentence a bit?
11:20:59 * misc need to get food before it is too late
11:21:11 <mleonova> "experience badge artists will have an opportunity to mentor, design.."
11:21:14 <riecatnor> yes def
11:21:20 <mleonova> bon appetit, misc !
11:24:09 <mleonova> ok, cool
11:24:16 <riecatnor> rewriting
11:25:37 <riecatnor> In this workshop we will learn the process for designing Fedora Badges. We will go over all the necessary design tools and resources and get you set up to design. Learn about how the transition to Pagure has changed the Fedora Badges designing process. Earn the Padawan badge for your attendance! Experienced badge artists will have the opportunity to mentor, design, and connect with their fellow badgers.
11:26:25 <mleonova> great!
11:26:28 <mleonova> maybe get rid of about: learn how..
11:26:43 <riecatnor> yes yes
11:26:46 <riecatnor> good call
11:27:01 <mleonova> ok cool)
11:28:17 <riecatnor> ok.. so is that all for flock for now>
11:28:34 <mleonova> I guess so
11:28:49 <riecatnor> okey
11:29:09 <riecatnor> lets look at what i wrote for the blog post
11:29:21 <riecatnor> #topic blog post for commops
11:29:46 <mleonova> I like it!
11:30:03 <riecatnor> any changes?
11:30:22 <mleonova> I will put in the post now - maybe descriptions right after the badge name
11:32:19 <mleonova> maybe we should mention our names specifically, so people could reach out with questions?
11:32:38 <riecatnor> sure
11:32:53 <riecatnor> I can log in to review before you email to get review
11:33:23 <mleonova> I don't understand this sentence :D
11:33:35 <mleonova> but I will share post for review with you
11:33:39 <riecatnor> hah ok!
11:33:45 <mleonova> before sending it to commops)
11:33:46 <riecatnor> thats basically what i meant
11:33:54 <mleonova> oh) cool then
11:36:20 <mleonova> ok, what else
11:36:42 <riecatnor> hmm
11:37:12 <riecatnor> for today, we had no other things to do
11:37:58 <mleonova> ok, we can go through badges or we can call it a day
11:38:10 <mleonova> (can you say that)
11:38:13 <mleonova> =)
11:38:20 <riecatnor> yes thats the phrase :P
11:38:31 <riecatnor> yes lets do two or three
11:38:38 <mleonova> ok!
11:38:38 <riecatnor> i am almost done with this registration
11:38:43 <riecatnor> still going
11:38:44 <riecatnor> hehe
11:38:49 <riecatnor> any you know need review
11:38:57 * mleonova looking
11:39:35 <mleonova> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/533
11:39:49 <riecatnor> oh real quick
11:39:56 <riecatnor> im seeing here two options for the workshop
11:40:01 <riecatnor> 120 minutes on 180 minutes
11:40:04 <riecatnor> or*
11:40:09 <mleonova> aha
11:40:18 <mleonova> 180 I think
11:40:21 <riecatnor> yes me too
11:40:27 <riecatnor> also, i need to get our names into the description
11:40:33 <riecatnor> no where else to put you down
11:40:41 <mleonova> oh? ;P okay
11:40:41 <riecatnor> its not giving me another option to add you iin
11:41:30 <riecatnor> weird, the attachments on that badge dont seem to be working
11:41:43 <mleonova> on some of the others too..
11:41:48 <mleonova> what happened
11:42:04 <mleonova> I'll try and ping pingou
11:43:03 <mleonova> not sure if he's around
11:43:13 <mleonova> sayan, are you here?
11:43:28 <riecatnor> In this workshop riecatnor and mleonova will teach you the process for designing Fedora Badges. We will go over all the necessary design tools and resources and get you set up to design. Learn about how the transition to Pagure has changed the Fedora Badges designing process. Earn the Padawan badge for your attendance! Experienced badge artists will have the opportunity to mentor, design, and connect with their fellow
11:43:28 <riecatnor> badgers.
11:43:48 <riecatnor> they are calling it a “do session:
11:43:50 <riecatnor> "
11:43:54 <riecatnor> perhaps we need to change it
11:43:57 <riecatnor> to that lol
11:44:18 <mleonova> heh, might be)
11:44:30 <riecatnor> what do you think of that? is it awkward?
11:44:45 <mleonova> what is?
11:45:00 <riecatnor> updated description of workshop
11:45:18 <mleonova> you might add names before nicks
11:45:26 <misc> yup, was about to say the same
11:45:32 <mleonova> cool
11:45:32 <riecatnor> also.. if it is a do session, perhaps ew need to add in that they will be designing badges
11:45:41 <riecatnor> full names?
11:45:51 <mleonova> nah, just first names
11:46:16 <riecatnor> hmm
11:46:31 <mleonova> so we might say: bring a laptop and be ready to create or smt
11:46:51 <riecatnor> I figured out what is making it awkward, it changes perspective
11:46:58 <riecatnor> from talking about us to then saying we will
11:47:12 <misc> indeed
11:47:12 <mleonova> ooh
11:47:23 <riecatnor> ok, so this needs a bit more work
11:47:30 <riecatnor> can we finish this through email?
11:47:30 <mleonova> okay :)
11:47:35 <misc> mleonova: say what kind of laptop is expected ? (ie with fedora ? )
11:47:39 <mleonova> Of course!
11:47:40 <riecatnor> lol
11:47:43 <riecatnor> ok great
11:47:46 <mleonova> misc, I think whatever
11:47:49 <riecatnor> also, on a side note
11:47:56 <riecatnor> i worked on the banners for flock
11:48:00 <riecatnor> and was unable to upload them
11:48:06 <mleonova> oh?
11:48:21 <mleonova> so maybe pagure is having issues with attachments
11:48:24 <riecatnor> so if you do get in touch with pingou or sayan let them know uploading artwork files is still a struggle
11:48:32 <mleonova> will do!
11:48:47 <mleonova> send him an email, too
11:49:00 <riecatnor> I wonder if mizmo has any trouble
11:49:14 <mleonova> it seems to work on and off
11:49:15 <misc> mleonova: my concern is more to handle installation on whatever people come with, but indeed, it might not be a big issue for design tool (unlike it was for ansible workshop I did help in the past)
11:49:41 <mleonova> misc, inkscape is fine on any machine
11:49:44 <riecatnor> luckily inkscape isntalls pretty easily
11:49:50 <mleonova> yeah
11:49:50 <riecatnor> hardest can be mac
11:50:19 <misc> also, no risk of network being crappy :) (ie, shouldn't it be safer to ask to people to install before hands ?)
11:50:30 <mleonova> misc, sure, we might
11:50:42 <riecatnor> yes, but point is we get them all set up :P
11:50:43 <misc> (yeah, sysadmins always worry of stuff that can break, that's our job :p)
11:51:00 <mleonova> misc, not, totally valid concern
11:51:04 <riecatnor> but we have found people come with inkscape installed already
11:51:09 <riecatnor> especially more technical people
11:51:27 <mleonova> maybe mention that they can install it beforehand if they haven't already
11:51:44 <misc> no requirement regarding the version ?
11:51:47 <mleonova> idk :)
11:51:56 <riecatnor> for the description? personally I think that is too detailed for trying to bring people in
11:52:05 <mleonova> not really, misc
11:52:11 <mleonova> riecatnor, well, skip it then
11:52:25 <riecatnor> ok, i will rework this a bit and email it to you so we can get in it asao
11:52:28 <riecatnor> asap
11:52:40 <riecatnor> I dont want to rush it now
11:52:51 <mleonova> ok, riecatnor, sounds good
11:53:01 <mleonova> I will work on the post
11:53:04 <riecatnor> okay! :)
11:53:12 <riecatnor> great, yes email that to me when its ready
11:53:16 <mleonova> great!
11:53:23 <riecatnor> lets call it a day :P
11:53:33 <mleonova> \o/
11:53:42 <riecatnor> thanks for being here mleonova, you rock!!
11:53:56 <mleonova> thanks, riecatnor and misc) great stuff!
11:53:59 <riecatnor> #endmeeting