10:56:52 <riecatnor> #startmeeting Fedora Badges
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10:56:58 <riecatnor> #chair mleonova
10:56:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: mleonova riecatnor
10:57:38 <riecatnor> so things seem to be going well with Flock.. sounds like their will be a badges do-session for sure
10:57:45 <riecatnor> ?
10:57:57 <mleonova> looks like it!
10:58:08 <riecatnor> exciting!!
10:58:27 <riecatnor> Once we hear, time to rework all of our slides to include pagure :)
10:58:38 <mleonova> hehe, yeah!
10:58:46 <misc> congrats
10:58:54 <mleonova> I think it's going to be Friday-ish
10:59:00 <riecatnor> do you have any more knowledge on the symbol library?
10:59:08 <mleonova> misc, what for?)
10:59:13 <riecatnor> hi misc
10:59:15 <mleonova> riecatnor, not a clue ;P
10:59:18 <misc> mleonova: being almost at flock :p
10:59:27 <misc> (celebrate early, celebrate often)
10:59:33 <misc> hi riecatnor and mleonova too
10:59:35 <riecatnor> lol misc did you decide to come yet?
10:59:38 <mleonova> misc, ha! I'd rather celebrate after))
10:59:46 <misc> riecatnor: nope :/
10:59:50 <misc> mleonova: we can do both !
11:00:15 <riecatnor> aw misc that is too bad
11:00:18 <riecatnor> you will be missed
11:00:33 <misc> I would say  "I might reconsider if enough people ask", but last time I said that, people made me apply for the board and I got elected
11:00:40 <riecatnor> mleonova, yeah first I was hearing about a symbol library though I do think it will be useful
11:00:43 <misc> riecatnor: yeah :/
11:01:21 <riecatnor> I wonder if you are able to edit the symbols?
11:01:31 <riecatnor> do you use symbol libraries much mleonova
11:01:50 <mleonova> riecatnor, I hate to admit I have no idea what that is
11:01:52 <misc> symbol library would help to quickly sketch concept, so that would be useful
11:02:06 <mleonova> misc, do you have examples?
11:02:06 <misc> I can't draw, but I can surely place stuff using mouse
11:02:23 <misc> mleonova: well, that's used to draw diagram, for networks, for example
11:02:24 <misc> with dia
11:02:35 <misc> or think like the brush in gimp
11:02:48 <mleonova> hey a2batic!!
11:03:00 <a2batic> hey mleonova o/
11:03:00 <riecatnor> hello a2batic
11:03:02 <mleonova> welcome)
11:03:15 <a2batic> Hi riecatnor :)
11:03:20 <riecatnor> how are you?
11:03:39 <a2batic> I am good, how is it going for you ?
11:03:49 <riecatnor> pretty well.. got my coffeeeee :)
11:04:12 <riecatnor> so a2batic, can you explain more about the symbol library you are working on
11:04:30 <riecatnor> mleonova and i were just discussing, and realized neither of us have even used one
11:04:34 <a2batic> Yeah
11:04:38 <mleonova> we are very curious!
11:05:37 <a2batic> So when I started with making badges, I found out there are many resources availble for making badges
11:06:14 <a2batic> many of them are in resource folder
11:07:12 <a2batic> but some like fedora logo has to be downloaded or svg has to be ungrouped
11:07:49 <a2batic> so there are some other resources too similar to that
11:08:58 <a2batic> We can create a symbol library
11:09:01 <a2batic> in inkscape
11:09:12 <a2batic> which can have all the fedora badge resiurces
11:09:20 <a2batic> *resources
11:09:48 <a2batic> we can simply drag or click on the workspace
11:10:07 <mleonova> a2batic, how will it look? I'm struggling to imagine)
11:10:14 <riecatnor> http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/SymbolsDialog
11:10:23 <riecatnor> mleonova, check this out
11:10:54 <mleonova> riecatnor, aha, cool.. lemme look for some screenshots, too
11:11:09 <riecatnor> the library of graphics will be in a dialog and you will be able to choose
11:11:13 <a2batic> ya, i have some too
11:11:26 <riecatnor> next question that comes to mind is can you edit the symbols.. but i have not finished reading :)
11:11:30 <mleonova> a2batic, I'd love to see those!
11:12:28 <a2batic> http://img.susepaste.org/82350650
11:12:34 <mleonova> somehow for me 1 screenshot is worth a 1000 wiki pages :D
11:12:35 <a2batic> mleonova, riecatnor ^^
11:12:43 <riecatnor> it doesn’t explicitly say on thsi wiki if you can edit symbols.. a2batic can you answer this question for me?
11:13:06 <a2batic> riecatnor, yes we can edit symbols
11:13:12 <riecatnor> a2batic \o/
11:13:15 <riecatnor> awesome!
11:13:17 <riecatnor> i love this
11:13:22 <mleonova> that's really cool!
11:13:38 <a2batic> But there is a bug -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/inkscape/+bug/1419345, which does not allow to edit the symbols. Till the bug is solved Edit -> Clone -> unlink clone can be used as work-around
11:13:53 <riecatnor> I think it would be nice to have different sets of symbols, as we have a lot of graphics in badges now
11:14:22 <riecatnor> like, a break down for badges, pandas, logos/project logos, animals and everything else
11:14:28 <riecatnor> badgers***
11:14:42 <a2batic> riecatnor, yes, I have done some grouping too
11:14:50 <riecatnor> if they were all in one, could be hard to find what you are looking for
11:14:54 <riecatnor> ok great :)
11:15:49 <a2batic> sending a screenshot
11:16:10 <a2batic> http://img.susepaste.org/16050267
11:16:31 <a2batic> Although i am planning to add more graphics to it
11:16:37 <riecatnor> I have a thought here
11:17:00 <a2batic> yup
11:17:02 <riecatnor> first of all, this looks great!
11:17:19 <riecatnor> I would not like to make the badge templates into symbols
11:17:27 <riecatnor> as an option for people to use
11:17:38 <riecatnor> they need to use the template files
11:17:41 <riecatnor> my reason for this
11:17:58 <riecatnor> is because we have a lot of issues with wrong sizing, distortion and placement
11:18:02 <riecatnor> this would further that issue
11:18:31 <riecatnor> the template files *should* make the right file size, placement etc everytime and yet we still have issues
11:19:35 <mleonova> second that, riecatnor
11:20:02 <a2batic> yes, that will be a problem even if we make symbol of template of exact size
11:20:18 <riecatnor> because the person using it would still have to place it
11:20:28 <riecatnor> ok. glad we are on the same page with that
11:21:13 * a2batic nods
11:21:40 <riecatnor> a2batic, this is really cool! thanks for making this
11:21:51 <riecatnor> We have a lot of new artwork since I put together the old resource files
11:22:02 <riecatnor> It would be really awesome to see some of that in their too
11:22:09 <a2batic> riecatnor, thanks :)
11:22:34 <riecatnor> I would be happy to help, but I am not sure how to make the symbols.. would it be helpful if I made a file of newer graphics for you to add?
11:22:53 <a2batic> riecatnor, mleonova, do you believe it will reduce the efforts of contributors ?
11:23:10 <riecatnor> yes! definitely.. i know i would use it as long as i could edit them
11:23:20 <mleonova> of course!
11:23:43 <mleonova> misc will totally start making badges then ;)
11:24:13 * a2batic smiles
11:24:34 <riecatnor> a2batic: I would be happy to help, but I am not sure how to make the symbols.. would it be helpful if I made a file of newer graphics for you to add?
11:25:15 <a2batic> Initially i was planning to make plugin, thanks to mizmo for guiding me
11:25:44 <a2batic> riecatnor, oh yes yes, that will be great
11:26:04 <riecatnor> ok great! I will work on that for you
11:26:18 <a2batic> we can all together work on this :D
11:26:35 <a2batic> riecatnor, yup ok
11:26:38 <riecatnor> a2batic: is this a good meeting time for you? just curious as I can probably have something for the next meeting
11:26:44 <riecatnor> two weeks from now
11:27:09 <a2batic> yes, it works for me
11:27:26 <a2batic> *this
11:27:33 <riecatnor> ok sweet! I will have a file or two for you then
11:28:12 <riecatnor> a2batic, also curious, which badge designs have you created? or do you mainly work on support for badges
11:29:07 <a2batic> riecatnor, i tried creating some badges... let me fetch the tickets
11:30:59 <a2batic> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/204
11:31:05 <a2batic> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/489
11:31:09 <a2batic> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/490
11:31:11 <a2batic> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/491
11:32:05 <a2batic> I wasnt able to complete it
11:32:13 <riecatnor> a2batic: for 204 can you reupload your newest png?
11:32:32 <riecatnor> thats ok, we can help you!
11:32:52 <mleonova> riecatnor, looks like we reviewed some of them
11:33:11 <riecatnor> same for 489
11:33:21 <a2batic> riecatnor, yes, I will upload the new designs today
11:33:23 <riecatnor> yes, but latest links are for the old trac, so we can’t see
11:33:35 <mleonova> but before migration, so it would be lovely if a2batic can fetch the pngs)
11:33:39 <riecatnor> i am saving these links so we can review and help them get through
11:34:05 <a2batic> riecatnor, mleonova thanks :)
11:34:27 <a2batic> will upload it today
11:34:31 <riecatnor> same for all the tickets a2batic :) we can help finish them up
11:34:34 <riecatnor> ok great
11:36:19 <riecatnor> mleonova: anything more happening with the blog post?
11:36:26 <riecatnor> did they approve it?
11:36:27 <mleonova> riecatnor, actually yes!
11:36:33 <mleonova> I wanted to talk about it
11:36:39 <riecatnor> ok, give me the low down girl
11:37:12 <mleonova> right! SO Brian suggests we maybe wants to reword it a bit and publish something for Fedora Magazine in the future
11:37:28 <riecatnor> yes, i saw that email
11:37:37 <mleonova> but for now I think, as well as Paul commented, that we'd still want to publcih to commops
11:37:44 <mleonova> *publish
11:38:04 <riecatnor> i remember talking with ryanlerch at last years flock said that the magazine was geared towards users vs. contributors
11:38:20 <mleonova> so he just changed a sentence, but otherwise I just wanted to confirm with you
11:38:27 <mleonova> yeah, same thing there
11:38:46 <riecatnor> because we were planning these posts all the way back then :P
11:39:00 <riecatnor> so yes, go ahead no worries about any small changes
11:39:02 <riecatnor> lets push it through
11:39:12 <mleonova> ok cool
11:39:30 <riecatnor> and as for the magazine.. im honestly not sure. it could be cool to have it out there, but i don’t think it should be recurring that often on the magazine if it goes there at all
11:39:40 * mleonova needs to find that guide again
11:39:49 <riecatnor> so maybe once every 6 months or so? if at all
11:39:54 <mleonova> riecatnor, maybe something more general about badges
11:40:06 <riecatnor> ok! yes i like that idea
11:40:12 <riecatnor> we can write this together
11:40:13 <mleonova> without a specific list of issues
11:40:16 <mleonova> yeah
11:40:28 <riecatnor> and it could still be geared towards designers
11:41:05 <mleonova> yep
11:41:27 <riecatnor> and we can show off some of the most fun artwork from badges
11:41:41 <riecatnor> mainly the two artist series :D
11:41:47 <mleonova> sounds like fun!)
11:42:09 <riecatnor> ok, so future project! once we get ryans approval
11:42:18 <mleonova> \o/
11:42:21 <riecatnor> I am sure he will be at flock?
11:42:25 <riecatnor> do you know if he will mleonova
11:43:00 * a2batic wonders what two artist series ?, sounds interesting
11:43:12 <mleonova> riecatnor, not yet - I haven't chatted with him
11:43:25 <mleonova> mizmo might know more
11:43:59 <riecatnor> a2batic: badge artist series https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/apprentice-badge-artist-i
11:44:02 <riecatnor> thats the first one
11:44:14 <riecatnor> and design team artist series https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/four-badgers-design-team-i
11:44:56 <riecatnor> a2batic: once we help you finish those badges you will earn the apprentice badge :D
11:45:20 <a2batic> oh, sounds cool
11:45:30 <riecatnor> ok mleonova, so we are all set with the most current blog post?
11:45:57 <mleonova> riecatnor, think so! just need to find those instructions :)
11:46:03 <riecatnor> oh hehe
11:46:04 <riecatnor> i can help
11:46:17 <riecatnor> https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/writing-community-blog-article/
11:46:19 <riecatnor> ml
11:46:24 <riecatnor> mleonova^
11:46:29 <mleonova> riecatnor, woohoo
11:46:35 <mleonova> you're the best!
11:46:58 <riecatnor> mleonova: any badges for your intern that need review or any others you remember off the top?
11:47:01 <mleonova> riecatnor, hmm, so I guess I don't need to do anything?
11:47:13 <riecatnor> once they approve, it should go out shortly
11:47:19 <mleonova> riecatnor, let me look for some badges
11:47:25 <mleonova> ok cool
11:47:59 <riecatnor> if you dont have any pressing badges mleonova I will head off to work
11:48:19 <mleonova> https://pagure.io/Fedora-Badges/issue/533
11:48:37 <mleonova> just one I guess and I'll let you go)
11:49:23 <riecatnor> oh yes, definitely an improvement
11:51:39 <mleonova> ok :)
11:52:17 <riecatnor> what do you think>
11:52:29 <riecatnor> a nit pick, but the stroke could be a little heavier?
11:52:39 <riecatnor> or it just doesnt seem even around the whole cookie?
11:53:58 <riecatnor> i am commenting :)
11:53:59 <mleonova> riecatnor, I think it's alright. maybe bigger 'wafel'?
11:54:02 <mleonova> ok cool)
11:54:09 <riecatnor> make it a little bigger you say?
11:54:19 <mleonova> maybe a bit?
11:54:24 <riecatnor> ok!
11:54:39 <riecatnor> ok peeps
11:54:45 <riecatnor> thanks for coming a2batic
11:55:01 <riecatnor> thanks to you to mleonova as always :)
11:55:05 <mleonova> and misc =)
11:55:11 <riecatnor> lol yes sure and misc
11:55:18 <mleonova> thanks, riecatnor! =))
11:55:19 <a2batic> thanks riecatnor mleonova for helping out :)
11:55:20 <riecatnor> have a great day everybody!!
11:55:23 <mleonova> you too!
11:55:25 <riecatnor> #endmeeting