#fedora-meeting-1: F27 Final and Server Beta Go/No-Go meeting
Meeting started by jkurik at 17:00:17 UTC
(full logs).
Meeting summary
- Roll Call (jkurik, 17:00:29)
- Purpose of this meeting (jkurik, 17:02:40)
- Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or
not F27 Final and F27 Server Beta are ready for shipment, according
to the release criteria. (jkurik,
17:02:47)
- This is determined in a few ways: (jkurik,
17:02:54)
- * Release candidate compose is available
(jkurik,
17:02:59)
- * No remaining blocker bugs (jkurik,
17:03:05)
- * Test matrices are fully completed
(jkurik,
17:03:09)
- Current status (jkurik, 17:03:15)
- https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/27/Fedora-27-20171101.0/
RC for the F27 Final (jkurik,
17:05:04)
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Base
Test matrices for the F27 Final (jkurik,
17:05:09)
- RC for the F27 Server Beta is not yet
ready. (jkurik,
17:05:15)
- As we have no RC for F27 Server Beta there are
subsequently no Test Matrices for the F27 Server Beta. (jkurik,
17:05:20)
- F27-blocker-review (kparal, 17:10:25)
- Introduction (kparal, 17:10:42)
- Our purpose in this meeting is to review
proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept
them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted
blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (kparal,
17:10:42)
- We'll be following the process outlined
at: (kparal,
17:10:42)
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(kparal,
17:10:42)
- The bugs up for review today are available
at: (kparal,
17:10:44)
- http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current
(kparal,
17:10:46)
- The criteria for release blocking bugs can be
found at: (kparal,
17:10:48)
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(kparal,
17:10:50)
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Beta_Release_Criteria
(kparal,
17:10:52)
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Final_Release_Criteria
(kparal,
17:10:54)
- 7 Proposed Blockers (kparal,
17:11:23)
- 5 Accepted Blockers (kparal,
17:11:23)
- 0 Accepted 0-day Blockers (kparal,
17:11:23)
- 0 Accepted Previous Release Blockers
(kparal,
17:11:23)
- 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (kparal,
17:11:23)
- 6 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (kparal,
17:11:23)
- (1508706) No longer works with USB webcam 19ff:0103 , error "Tried to capture in BGR3, but device returned format YUYV" (kparal, 17:11:33)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508706
(kparal,
17:11:33)
- Proposed Blocker, cheese, NEW (kparal,
17:11:33)
- AGREED: 1508706 -
RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this seems to be
hardware dependent, so far about 20% of tested cameras were
affected. We think this is a low enough failure rate to not consider
this a release-blocking issue, but important enough to be worth an
FE if the release slips. (adamw,
17:18:42)
- (1508808) dbxtool service fails to start - EFI Signature List is malformed (adamw, 17:19:07)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508808
(adamw,
17:19:07)
- Proposed Blocker, dbxtool, NEW (adamw,
17:19:07)
- AGREED: 1508808 -
RejectedBlocker RejectedFreezeException (Final) - this seems to only
affect a minority of UEFI installs, based on current information.
the practical consequences of the failure are not too terrible and
can be fixed with a post-release update, so given the limited
breadth of impact we don't believe this qualifies as a release
blocking issue. (adamw,
17:25:36)
- (1508794) systemd/dracut doesn't wait for mediacheck to finish (adamw, 17:25:51)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508794
(adamw,
17:25:52)
- Proposed Blocker, dracut, POST (adamw,
17:25:52)
- AGREED: 1508794 -
AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is a conditional violation of the
requirement that images boot by default. we believe it will be
encountered sufficiently often in the real world, and leave a bad
enough impression when it does happen, to accept it as a
blocker. (adamw,
17:33:02)
- (1469813) [abrt] gnome-shell: _g_log_abort(): gnome-shell killed by signal 5 (adamw, 17:34:56)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1469813
(adamw,
17:34:56)
- Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw,
17:34:57)
- AGREED: 1469813 -
punt (delay decision) - this is a rather complex report with
probably multiple different problems bundled up together, we don't
yet really have the information to make a determination (adamw,
17:43:02)
- (1486002) grub2-mkconfig does not work if xen.gz is installed. (adamw, 17:43:13)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1486002
(adamw,
17:43:14)
- Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (adamw,
17:43:14)
- AGREED: 1486002 -
RejectedBlocker RejectedFreezeException (Final) - best information
at present is that Xen UEFI installs have never worked. given this,
we don't think it makes sense to treat this as a last-minute release
blocking bug, or grant a freeze exception. If this turns out to be
incorrect, we will re-evaluate. (adamw,
17:51:03)
- (1507931) Missing cursor with latest kernel in QXL+SPICE VM (adamw, 17:51:11)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1507931
(adamw,
17:51:12)
- Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw,
17:51:12)
- AGREED: 1507931 -
RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - we agreed that
this doesn't really break things enough to constitute a violation of
the criteria, navigating gdm with a keyboard is easy and there are
workarounds like using a different video adapter. However, it's
visible enough to be worth fixing if the fix is not too
complex (adamw,
17:58:18)
- (1508899) Non-live Fedora 27 installs fail on Macs (adamw, 17:58:23)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508899
(adamw,
17:58:24)
- Proposed Blocker, mactel-boot, NEW (adamw,
17:58:24)
- AGREED: 1508899 -
AcceptedBlocker (Final) - accepted as a blocker as a violation of
Basic criterion "When using a dedicated installer image, the
installer must be able to complete an installation using the text,
graphical and VNC installation interfaces", for installs to Mac
(which is a supported platform) using the Workstation and Everything
netinst images (which are release-blocking) (adamw,
18:10:28)
- that's all the proposed Final blockers
(adamw,
18:12:20)
- there is one proposed Server Beta
blocker (adamw,
18:12:26)
- (1508576) freeipa module installation fails (adamw, 18:12:30)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508576
(adamw,
18:12:30)
- Proposed Blocker, fedora-modular-release,
ASSIGNED (adamw,
18:12:30)
- AGREED: 1508576 -
AcceptedBlocker (Server Beta) - clear violation of Basic criterion
"Release-blocking roles and the supported role configuration
interfaces must meet the core functional Role Definition
Requirements to the extent that supported roles can be successfully
deployed, started, stopped, brought to a working configuration, and
queried" (adamw,
18:14:11)
- that's all proposed blockers (adamw,
18:15:40)
- Test Matrices coverage (jkurik, 18:16:20)
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.2_Base
Test matrices for the F27 Final (jkurik,
18:16:28)
- The coverage of matrices is considered as
sufficient (jkurik,
18:24:33)
- As there is no RC For F27 Server Beta Test
matrices are not ready as well and we are skipping the Test Matrices
coverage check for the F27 Server Beta Release. (jkurik,
18:24:48)
- Go/No-Go decision (jkurik, 18:25:00)
- https://taiga.fedorainfracloud.org/project/acarter-fedora-docker-atomic-tooling/epic/857
(mattdm,
19:28:00)
- AGREED: We keep the
meeting open till Friday, November 3rd, 17:00UTC when we re-evaluate
status of blockers and we make the final decision. (jkurik,
19:36:35)
- Kohane will run the Go/No-Go meeting on the
Friday as jkurik is not available (jkurik,
19:36:43)
- both the blockers for which RC-1.3 was built -
#1508899 and #1508794 - are verified resolved in RC-1.3 (adamw,
17:10:55)
- moving onto proposed blockers (adamw,
17:12:27)
- (1469813) [abrt] gnome-shell: _g_log_abort(): gnome-shell killed by signal 5 (adamw, 17:12:46)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1469813
(adamw,
17:12:46)
- Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw,
17:12:46)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1509086
(adamw,
17:20:12)
- AGREED: 1469813 -
RejectedBlocker (Final) - turns out that many unrelated crash
reports have been marked as duplicates of this one due to a
libreport issue (#1509086). the actual original crash here is
clearly too rare to constitute a release blocker. for the record, we
also have no indication that any of the dupes is important enough to
merit blocker status at this time. (adamw,
17:26:31)
- (1193590) Allow bash to have a default profile without the 'rootfiles' package (adamw, 17:26:45)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1193590
(adamw,
17:26:45)
- Proposed Blocker, bash, ON_QA (adamw,
17:26:45)
- AGREED: 1193590 -
AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a critpath bug that
"has a severity rating of high or greater and no reasonable
workaround" and "cannot be fixed with a future stable update"; we
don't see any reasonable way to ship the bash in RC-1.3 and change
the behaviour with a post-release update, and we agree that the
current behaviour is too problematic and must be reverted.
(adamw,
17:50:24)
- https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/974
FYI (nirik,
17:55:22)
- Open Floor (nirik, 17:57:02)
- Formal Go / No Go decision (nirik, 17:58:47)
- AGREED: f27 is no-go
due to an outstanding blocker bug. We will slip 1 week. (nirik,
18:03:52)
- Open Floor (nirik, 18:03:59)
- we have some FEs to consider, so let's do a
quick FE review (adamw,
18:13:42)
- (1469813) [abrt] gnome-shell: _g_log_abort(): gnome-shell killed by signal 5 (adamw, 18:13:47)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1469813
(adamw,
18:13:48)
- Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-shell,
NEW (adamw,
18:13:48)
- AGREED: 1469813 -
RejectedFreezeException (Final) - the actual original reported crash
here is quite rare and we have no information on any possible safe
fix for it (adamw,
18:17:43)
- (1507420) LDB / Samba module version mismatch (adamw, 18:17:50)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1507420
(adamw,
18:17:50)
- Proposed Freeze Exceptions, samba,
MODIFIED (adamw,
18:17:50)
- AGREED: 1507420 -
RejectedFreezeException (Final) - to our best understanding, there
is no need for a freeze exception to fix incompatibility between
libldb and samba, the versions in stable are consistent. the update
is internally consistent and can happily be shipped as a regular
post-release update. (adamw,
18:22:13)
- (1446934) Failure to import Box2D in Sugar Physics (adamw, 18:22:27)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1446934
(adamw,
18:22:28)
- Proposed Freeze Exceptions, sugar-physics,
ON_QA (adamw,
18:22:28)
- AGREED: 1446934 -
AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this fixes an issue in a
non-blocking spin that would be a blocker in a blocking spin, and
the fix is clearly limited to only affecting Sugar, so should be
quite safe (adamw,
18:25:14)
- now taking a quick look at a couple of accepted
freeze exceptions with fixes to get opinions on whether to include
them in RC-1.4 (adamw,
18:25:45)
- (1506802) glibc: Fix regression in handling of x86_64 subdirectories in the ld.so search path (adamw, 18:25:50)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1506802
(adamw,
18:25:50)
- Accepted Freeze Exceptions, glibc,
MODIFIED (adamw,
18:25:50)
- we're inclined not to pull this into RC-1.4
because...glibc (adamw,
18:32:47)
- (1508706) No longer works with USB webcam 19ff:0103 , error "Tried to capture in BGR3, but device returned format YUYV" (adamw, 18:35:22)
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1508706
(adamw,
18:35:22)
- Accepted Freeze Exceptions, v4l-utils,
ON_QA (adamw,
18:35:22)
- we don't have terribly strong opinions on this,
no-one's super enthusiastic about pulling it in or super opposed to
it (adamw,
18:46:20)
- Open floor redux (adamw, 18:52:36)
Meeting ended at 19:03:15 UTC
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