21:04:20 #startmeeting servsersig 21:04:20 Meeting started Tue Jan 16 21:04:20 2018 UTC. The chair is sgallagh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:04:20 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:04:20 The meeting name has been set to 'servsersig' 21:04:34 #meetingname Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2018-01-16) 21:04:34 The meeting name has been set to 'server_sig_weekly_meeting_(2018-01-16)' 21:04:44 #topic Roll Call 21:04:49 .hello2 21:04:50 sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' 21:04:58 .hello2 21:04:59 dperpeet: dperpeet 'None' 21:05:21 .hello2 21:05:22 langdon: langdon 'Langdon White' 21:05:34 morning 21:07:15 ok, looks like we have everyone we are goin gto 21:07:28 #topic aarch64 promotion 21:07:57 This was deferred from last week, but we need to have an answer for FESCo on Friday. 21:08:23 The proposal is that we will ship Fedora 28 Server Edition for aarch64 as a blocking deliverable. 21:08:49 that would be the normal repos/images + modular repos right? 21:09:02 yes 21:09:33 +1 here. I assume modules are ok on aarch64... we haven't been doing anything like only x86_64 or something. ;) 21:10:11 nirik: I haven't personally *tested* it, but they have been building on all arches 21:11:01 * nirik nods 21:11:44 Which brings me to my next point... what's the cheapest aarch64 board I can order so I can do my own testing? 21:12:07 not sure. pwhalen or pbrobinson would be the ones to ask. 21:12:19 * nirik has some pine64's... but they are still serial only. 21:12:30 do we have enough testing capabilities to make it a blocking deliverable? 21:13:10 hopefully very soon we should have cloud instances in the fedora private cloud that are aarch64... 21:15:42 pine64, rpi3 are cheap. 96 boards also has some we support (dragonboard, hikey). 21:16:21 pwhalen: which of those support installation via USB installer and which require prebuilt disk images? 21:17:13 most of the boards are going to be prebuilt disk images 21:18:04 the enterprise hw supports USB/pxe installs 21:18:24 should we be more specific about what exact thing we want to make release blocking? 21:18:40 sgallagh, there is hw in beaker you can use for testing as well. 21:19:22 sgallagh, we might be able to get you some enterprise hw, I know you were on a list 21:19:52 nirik, pwhalen: I think it might be best to pick 2-3 popular/important boards that we consider blocking and treat the rest as "best effort" 21:20:02 supposedly the rpi is not vulnerable to the meltdown stuff because it's processor doesn't do anything fancy at all (and is very slow :)) 21:21:18 sgallagh: +1 21:21:22 sgallagh, I can discuss that with pbrobinson and get back to you, he should be online later this evening 21:23:00 hello 21:24:00 sgallagh, that was what I was trying to say earlier in wanting to know if rpi or something else was 'supported' 21:24:09 Proposal: We will defer to the ARM SIG to propose up to four aarch64 boards that we will consider release-blocking for Server Edition. Any others will be treated as non-blocking, but supported if they pass blocker tests. 21:24:27 we could then focus on some specific hardware and call the rest clearly "good effort" 21:24:33 (Straw-man, feel free to suggest different phrasing) 21:24:56 +1 21:25:06 sgallagh, sounds good, +1 21:25:54 +1 21:26:02 +1 21:27:03 ok, let's call that agreed then 21:27:20 #agreed We will defer to the ARM SIG to propose up to four aarch64 boards that we will consider release-blocking for Server Edition. Any others will be treated as non-blocking, but supported if they pass blocker tests. 21:27:46 pwhalen: May I #action you to provide us with that list by Friday (before FESCo)? 21:28:04 sounds good 21:29:13 #action pwhalen to provide a list of blocking hardware 21:29:25 #topic Next Meeting 21:29:52 I expect that we won't have quorum for the next two weeks, due to DevConf.cz and FOSDEM. 21:30:14 Shall we just decide now that the next meeting will be Feb 06? 21:30:23 works for me. 21:30:33 +1 21:30:51 sounds good. 21:32:00 i can run the meeting for the crickets if needed 21:32:15 smooge++ 21:32:15 sgallagh: Karma for smooge changed to 10 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 21:32:30 #info the next Server SIG meeting will be 2018-02-06 21:32:36 #topic Open Floor 21:32:41 Anything for Open Floor? 21:33:10 server4eva 21:33:40 no not really 21:33:45 is that going on a t-shirt? 21:35:23 OK, if there's nothing else, have 25 minutes back. I give them to you. 21:35:26 #endmeeting