16:30:10 <ksinny> #startmeeting fedora_atomic_wg 16:30:10 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Mar 14 16:30:10 2018 UTC. The chair is ksinny. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:30:10 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:30:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_atomic_wg' 16:30:25 <ksinny> #topic Roll Call 16:30:34 <roshi> .hello roshi 16:30:34 <ksinny> .hello sinnykumari 16:30:34 <zodbot> roshi: roshi 'Mike Ruckman' <roshi@mykolab.com> 16:30:37 <zodbot> ksinny: sinnykumari 'Sinny Kumari' <ksinny@gmail.com> 16:30:53 <strigazi> .hello2 16:30:54 <zodbot> strigazi: strigazi 'Spyros Trigazis' <strigazi@gmail.com> 16:30:55 <jbrooks> .fas jasonbrooks 16:31:00 <zodbot> jbrooks: jasonbrooks 'Jason Brooks' <jbrooks@redhat.com> 16:31:09 <sanja_> .fas sanja 16:31:10 <zodbot> sanja_: sjoshi01 'Sanjay Kumar Joshi' <s_joshi01@yahoo.com> - asanjar 'AMIR SANJAR' <v1sanjar@us.ibm.com> - singhaniasanjay 'sanjaysinghania' <singhania.san@yandex.com> - sanjaykumarco 'sanjay kumar' <me@sanjaykumar.co> - sgjymsg 'sgjym jm' <sanjay.webic@gmail.com> - sanjayanagha 'sanjay joshi' <sanjayanagha@rediffmail.com> - sanjay 'Sanjay Bhatia' <sanjay.bhatia@visionit.co.tz> - sanjaypothen 'sanjaypothen' (9 more messages) 16:31:16 <cverna> hello o/ 16:31:24 <miabbott> .hello2 16:31:25 <kushal> .hellomynameis kushal 16:31:25 <zodbot> miabbott: miabbott 'Micah Abbott' <miabbott@redhat.com> 16:31:28 <sanja_> hiya 16:31:31 <zodbot> kushal: kushal 'Kushal Das' <mail@kushaldas.in> 16:31:34 <kushal> brb 16:31:34 <misc> .fas misc 16:31:35 <zodbot> misc: loki4mischief 'Tristan Pelland' <T_pelland@yahoo.com> - timofedora 'Timo' <misc@lubrical.net> - stick 'Chris MacLeod' <stick@miscellaneous.net> - sarote 'sarote lim' <pnfe27@emisc.moe.go.th> - mishti 'Runa Bhattacharjee' <runa.misc@gmail.com> - msalle 'Mischa Sallé' <msalle@nikhef.nl> - padla 'Михаил' <mischenko.m@mail.ru> - henryl 'Henry Ludemann' <misc@hl.id.au> - mischeavouz02 'Russel A. Landicho' (2 more messages) 16:31:48 * misc look at zodbot 16:31:53 <jlebon> .hello jlebon 16:31:54 <dustymabe> .hello2 16:31:54 <zodbot> jlebon: jlebon 'None' <jonathan@jlebon.com> 16:31:56 * sanja_ looks at all the miscs. 16:31:57 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dusty@dustymabe.com> 16:32:25 <sanja_> .fas "sanja" 16:32:26 <zodbot> sanja_: sjoshi01 'Sanjay Kumar Joshi' <s_joshi01@yahoo.com> - asanjar 'AMIR SANJAR' <v1sanjar@us.ibm.com> - singhaniasanjay 'sanjaysinghania' <singhania.san@yandex.com> - sanjaykumarco 'sanjay kumar' <me@sanjaykumar.co> - sgjymsg 'sgjym jm' <sanjay.webic@gmail.com> - sanjayanagha 'sanjay joshi' <sanjayanagha@rediffmail.com> - sanjay 'Sanjay Bhatia' <sanjay.bhatia@visionit.co.tz> - sanjaypothen 'sanjaypothen' (9 more messages) 16:32:29 <dustymabe> sanja_: \o/ 16:32:40 <ksinny> Hello everyone! 16:32:55 <ksinny> #chair ksinny roshi strigazi jbrooks sanja_ cverna kushal miabbott misc jlebon dustymabe 16:32:55 <zodbot> Current chairs: cverna dustymabe jbrooks jlebon ksinny kushal miabbott misc roshi sanja_ strigazi 16:32:59 <sanja_> .hello 16:33:01 <zodbot> sanja_: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1". 16:33:04 <miabbott> lol 16:33:19 <sanja_> .hellomynameis sanja 16:33:20 <zodbot> sanja_: sanja 'Sanja Bonic' <sanja@redhat.com> 16:33:23 <sanja_> there we go 16:33:26 <ksinny> :) 16:33:55 <sanja_> if ever matrix either fixes the bug or lets me reactivate, i'll be my usual self again 16:34:08 <ksinny> :D 16:34:11 <sanja_> otherwise the sanja name is forever captive in the matrix 16:34:20 <ksinny> Let's start meetng with previous meeting action items 16:34:26 <ksinny> #topic Action items from last meeting 16:34:37 <ksinny> * davdunc to inform WG about AWS scan results of Fedora Atomic Host 16:34:37 <ksinny> * jlebon to write blog post for recent rpm-ostree/ostree releases 16:34:37 <ksinny> features 16:34:56 <ksinny> Looks like davdunc is not here yet 16:35:09 <ksinny> jlebon: Any update from you on this action item? 16:35:19 <jlebon> woah, one week goes by fast :) 16:35:28 <jlebon> not yet, will have something soon, promise :) 16:35:30 <ksinny> heh, true 16:35:46 <ksinny> jlebon: should I reaction it then? 16:35:46 <davdunc> .hello2 16:35:47 <zodbot> davdunc: davdunc 'David Duncan' <davdunc@amazon.com> 16:35:51 <ksinny> re-action* 16:35:55 <jlebon> ksinny: yes, please 16:35:56 <ksinny> davdunc: Hello 16:36:04 <davdunc> hi ksinny 16:36:04 <maxamillion> .hello2 16:36:05 <zodbot> maxamillion: maxamillion 'Adam Miller' <maxamillion@gmail.com> 16:36:10 <dustymabe> maxamillion!! 16:36:14 <maxamillion> >.> 16:36:16 <miabbott> whoa 16:36:19 <jbrooks> heyyyy 16:36:19 <ksinny> #chair maxamillion davdunc 16:36:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: cverna davdunc dustymabe jbrooks jlebon ksinny kushal maxamillion miabbott misc roshi sanja_ strigazi 16:36:23 <dustymabe> welcome back from #nosleep land 16:36:26 <ksinny> miabbott: Hey! 16:36:38 <ksinny> maxamillion: Hey! 16:36:42 <maxamillion> I'm not actually "here", I'm still on Paternity Leave but wanted to start showing up to things to get back to it slowly 16:36:46 <maxamillion> hi :) 16:37:20 <maxamillion> also, omg no sleep ... second baby does not like to sleep, longest stretch of sleep I've gotten in the last month is literally 3 hours, and that's only happened twice 16:37:35 <dustymabe> :) 16:37:44 <ksinny> fun time 16:38:01 <ksinny> davdunc: There is an action item for you 16:38:04 <ksinny> * davdunc to inform WG about AWS scan results of Fedora Atomic Host 16:38:12 <ksinny> davdunc: do you have any update? 16:38:34 <davdunc> rpm issues with the testing tools. 16:38:53 <jsmith> .hello2 16:38:54 <zodbot> jsmith: jsmith 'Jared Smith' <jsmith.fedora@gmail.com> 16:38:55 <davdunc> I am working with the Marketplace team at AWS to walk them through it. 16:38:57 * jsmith is lurking 16:39:03 <ksinny> #chair jsmith 16:39:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: cverna davdunc dustymabe jbrooks jlebon jsmith ksinny kushal maxamillion miabbott misc roshi sanja_ strigazi 16:39:05 <lorbus> .hello2 16:39:07 <zodbot> lorbus: lorbus 'Christian Glombek' <c@petersen-glombek.de> 16:39:19 <ksinny> #chair lorbus 16:39:19 <zodbot> Current chairs: cverna davdunc dustymabe jbrooks jlebon jsmith ksinny kushal lorbus maxamillion miabbott misc roshi sanja_ strigazi 16:39:46 <ksinny> davdunc: Great! Let us know if you have more update later 16:40:22 <ksinny> #info davdunc is working with the Marketplace team at AWS to walk them through it 16:40:25 <davdunc> It's been slow and that's mostly my fault. I'll put some details in the ticket on the exchanges. 16:41:14 <ksinny> davdunc: +1 on updating in ticket 16:41:49 <ksinny> davdunc: do we have a ticket already opened? 16:42:45 <miabbott> i think it is this - https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/339 16:43:07 <ksinny> miabbott: Thanks! 16:43:52 <ksinny> #info davdunc will do further update about AWS scan results of Fedora Atomic Host on atomic-wg ticket 16:44:03 <ksinny> #link https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/339 16:44:13 <davdunc> that's the one. 16:44:38 <ksinny> #action jlebon to write blog post for recent rpm-ostree/ostree releases features 16:44:52 <ksinny> Ok, moving on to meeting tickets 16:45:13 <ksinny> #topic Asian/Australian timezone IRC meeting for community and parts of WG 16:45:21 <ksinny> #link https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/433 16:45:59 <ksinny> sanja_: would you like to talk about this? 16:46:01 <sanja_> anyone wanna comment on that? 16:46:03 <sanja_> hehe 16:46:27 <sanja_> Well, as we've had it on Twitter and other times, people would like to be at the meetings but they're not in US or European timezone 16:46:27 <miabbott> seems like all the pieces are in place - moderator, time, location 16:47:01 <sanja_> yep, from my POV I'll try be at the first one and then Sinny and Suraj take that - zodbot generates the logs, so just post that to atomic-devel afterwards 16:47:30 <sanja_> maybe I can be there at other times, too - and we should also promote this on Twitter and website (which I'll do) 16:47:31 <ksinny> yup 16:47:46 <sanja_> so unless other comments, can move on to next topic :) 16:47:50 <sanja_> ksinny++ 16:47:53 <jbrooks> Do we have a time? 16:48:08 <dustymabe> i *might* try to make it some times 16:48:10 <miabbott> 5:00 UTC 16:48:22 <dustymabe> 1AM Eastern so *might* is heavily emphasized 16:48:23 <dustymabe> :) 16:48:24 <sanja_> sinnykumari++ 16:48:35 <dustymabe> ksinny++ ? 16:48:43 <miabbott> ksinny++ 16:48:43 <zodbot> miabbott: Karma for sinnykumari changed to 3 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:48:44 <ksinny> Awesome to have more people from atomic-wg in the new meeting 16:48:46 <miabbott> winner! 16:48:57 <sanja_> pft 16:49:03 <sanja_> cheat 16:49:07 <miabbott> your nick is all borked sanja_ 16:49:11 <dustymabe> .fire miabbott 16:49:11 <zodbot> adamw fires miabbott 16:49:17 <miabbott> aww man 16:49:20 <miabbott> i had a good run 16:49:24 <roshi> you get used to it miabbott :) 16:49:30 <dustymabe> roshi: \o/ 16:49:31 <miabbott> lol 16:49:35 <jlebon> it's all fun and games until someone gets fired 16:49:37 <ksinny> sanja_: Do we have any count who are interested to join the meeting in Asia/Austrela timezone? 16:49:39 <sanja_> lol 16:49:46 <sanja_> absolutely no count 16:50:00 <sanja_> and I'm expecting it to be fairly empty until after devconf.in 16:50:08 <roshi> I don't know, but I think I had the record, I got fired by adamw about a week into joining the team... 16:50:20 <sanja_> but we need to put things in place because as I said people have asked for it 16:50:29 <ksinny> sanja_: Okay! 16:50:33 <miabbott> what's the format? is it just a review of other community meetings? 16:50:42 <sanja_> same as here 16:50:47 <jlebon> sanja_: would it make sense to delay this until e.g. 1 month before devconf.in then? 16:50:50 <ksinny> sanja_: I beliee so as well that folks will join slowly once they will be aware of 16:50:58 <ksinny> believe* 16:51:03 <sanja_> jlebon no, because people should be aware of it and it should exist before 16:51:05 <sanja_> also it's not just India 16:51:14 <miabbott> i just wonder about making any decisions on tickets, etc without a quorum 16:52:00 <jlebon> sanja_: yup, sounds good. classic chicken and egg problem. 16:52:01 <sanja_> I think it makes sense to be there and start the meeting, if noone is in there, then you'll see - we'll promote it regularly and see if there's a shift 16:52:05 <sanja_> exactly :D 16:52:26 <ksinny> I agree with sanja_ 16:53:02 <ksinny> We try first and let's see if people starts showing up 16:53:19 <sanja_> I wanna give you a cookie but my IRC is broken - thanks for volunteering to moderate this, Sinny 16:53:23 <sanja_> yep 16:53:33 <roshi> ksinny++ 16:53:33 <zodbot> roshi: Karma for sinnykumari changed to 4 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:53:36 <sanja_> "I wanna give you a cookie but my IRC is broken" - out of context 16:53:37 <roshi> there you go sanja_ 16:53:50 <sanja_> thanks, roshi! you deserve a cookie for your cookie 16:53:53 <ksinny> sanja_: No problem . I will get a real cookie from you whnever we meet :D 16:53:55 <roshi> :D 16:54:02 <sanja_> haha, deal :D 16:54:58 <miabbott> so i think that ticket can be closed? 16:56:01 <ksinny> #info atomic-wg meeting for Asian/Australian timezone has been scheduled biweekly on Tuesday at 5:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting1 16:56:10 <ksinny> sanja_: Yup, we can close the ticket 16:56:23 <sanja_> doing that 16:56:36 <ksinny> Any thing else we want to discuss before we move to Open Floor? 16:57:28 * ksinny thinks discussing about VFAD outcome from last week may be a good topic? 16:58:16 <ksinny> dustymabe: sanja_ ? 16:58:54 <sanja_> 3 names 16:59:12 <sanja_> no specific outcomes 16:59:13 <sanja_> https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/429 16:59:16 <sanja_> video is here 16:59:31 <sanja_> Colin gave a good explanation and overall review of rojig 16:59:40 <sanja_> rebranding wise we decided it's complicated 16:59:56 <miabbott> there's a lot of ideas in there that we should extract and see if we can make progress on 17:00:22 <miabbott> especially related to docs for common use cases 17:00:44 <ksinny> #topic Atomic VFAD outcome from last week 17:00:54 <sanja_> yes, but that fits in with my docs work - I'm theming Hugo because of jbrooks' valid objections to the previous rework of the website regarding infra 17:00:55 <ksinny> #link https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/429 17:00:59 <cverna> Are you using AsciiDoc for the docs ? 17:01:03 <sanja_> and misc is working on making asciidoc work 17:01:24 <cverna> We have put in place a CI/CD pipeline for fedora-docs 17:01:35 <sanja_> we will yes, misc is setting up asciibinder and making it so that several repos can count in, so we can host container best practices again - they updated it and it's now good to publish according to a call we had 17:01:40 <miabbott> for those kinds of doc items, should we create issues on atomic-wg or pa/atomic-site? 17:01:41 * jsmith can help with any docs looking needed 17:01:42 <cverna> that build automatically the docs from pagure 17:01:51 <sanja_> uuuh 17:01:54 <jsmith> cverna++ 17:01:57 <zodbot> jsmith: Karma for cverna changed to 16 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:01:58 <sanja_> cverna, can I poke you bout htat via email? 17:02:05 <sanja_> cverna++ 17:02:06 <cverna> sure 17:02:08 <sanja_> if only my nick worked 17:02:19 <cverna> no worries ;) 17:02:20 <miabbott> cverna++ via sanja 17:02:24 * lorbus is actually just watching it and therefore not really here^^ 17:02:24 <sanja_> haha 17:02:31 <miabbott> come on zodbot 17:02:51 <sanja_> so regarding website, the following is happening: 17:03:13 <sanja_> * we have lots of docs that are written but never been published, I'll need your eyes on that once published so you can edit outdated content 17:03:23 <dustymabe> I already gave cverna karma like 10 times 17:03:24 <sanja_> * these docs come from 3 different repos and will be on docs.projectatomic.io 17:03:41 <sanja_> and the normal website and blog will be hosted via openshift and hugo 17:04:50 <ksinny> great! 17:05:17 <sanja_> anything else? 17:05:23 <sanja_> from my side, that's about all teh updates 17:05:28 <sanja_> please submit to devconf.us and devconf.in 17:05:33 <sanja_> whoever wants to go there or there 17:05:51 <sanja_> don't forget that if your company/department can't pay it, I can pay for your travel and accommodation 17:06:03 <sanja_> as long as the talk is Atomic Host or Atomic Workstation-related 17:06:11 <sanja_> can even be Buildah in fact 17:06:14 <sanja_> or cockpit 17:06:26 <misc> so, i speak about atomic Workstation next week, should I have it on your departement, or my departement ? 17:06:34 <dustymabe> misc: haha 17:06:37 <sanja_> :P 17:06:40 <dustymabe> isn't that the same department 17:06:54 <misc> dustymabe: yep 17:07:41 <ksinny> I think we can move now to Open floor 17:07:44 <ksinny> #link VFAD vluejeans recording - https://dustymabe.fedorapeople.org/2018-03-09_Fedora-Atomic-WG-vFAD.mp4 17:08:00 <ksinny> #link VFAD summary - https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/2018-03-09_Fedora-Atomic-WG-vFAD 17:08:06 <ksinny> #topic Open Floor 17:08:28 <cverna> I have an open floory subject about container 17:08:40 <ksinny> cverna: go ahead 17:09:17 <cverna> I would like to start introducing some CI to fedora container 17:09:50 <ksinny> cverna: That's awesome 17:09:55 <cverna> and the first thing would be a Dockerfile linter, that would check the container guideline + best practice 17:10:21 <dustymabe> +1 17:10:28 <ksinny> cverna++ 17:10:28 <zodbot> ksinny: Karma for cverna changed to 17 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:10:32 <cverna> ttomecek's team have something similar internally so the idea is to try to leverage some of their work 17:10:47 <dustymabe> and everyone.. let's take a moment to thank cverna for stepping up and voluteering to "own" more parts of the container build service known as FLIBS 17:10:56 <jlebon> cverna: very nice 17:10:59 <jlebon> cverna++ 17:10:59 <zodbot> jlebon: Karma for cverna changed to 18 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:11:15 <davdunc> cverna++ 17:11:15 <zodbot> davdunc: Karma for cverna changed to 19 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:11:17 <ksinny> cverna: Very cool +1000 17:11:18 <miabbott> cverna++ 17:11:29 <miabbott> all out of cookies, i guess 17:11:31 <cverna> whohoh cookie party :) thanks 17:11:45 <dustymabe> :) 17:11:56 <jlebon> cverna: is the goal to eventually gate new images on tests? 17:12:22 <cverna> jlebon: that would be great but I see that as a long term goal 17:12:30 <ksinny> #info cverna will be introducing some CI to fedora container which will incldude checks like Dockerfile linter 17:13:00 <cverna> I think something we can do is to get the Dockerfile lint in place without to much infra work 17:13:36 <cverna> The question is how to report the lint results, I am not a big fan of raising 100s of bugzilla 17:14:19 <misc> no way to do some autoqa hook ? 17:14:47 <cverna> hum might be, I did not look at it 17:14:52 * dustymabe has to step away, will read scrollback later 17:15:27 * jlebon as well 17:15:47 <ksinny> Any other topic for open floor? 17:17:26 <ttomecek> cverna, introducing CI for containers in Fedora? Awesome, that's been on my backlog for a long time 17:17:35 <dustymabe> ttomecek++ 17:17:35 <zodbot> dustymabe: Karma for ttomecek changed to 3 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:17:52 <dustymabe> ttomecek: cverna: can you sync on strategy? 17:18:07 <ttomecek> let me know if you need any help; I wanted to get in touch with Tim Flink or Kamil Paral how it could have been done with taskotron 17:18:12 <cverna> dustymabe: yes that was my plan 17:18:14 <ttomecek> dustymabe, absolutely 17:18:39 <cverna> ttomecek++ 17:18:47 <ksinny> ttomecek++ 17:18:47 <zodbot> ksinny: Karma for ttomecek changed to 4 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:19:16 <ttomecek> is it karma day? :D 17:19:22 <sanja_> pi day 17:19:26 <sanja_> we only have cookies 17:19:34 <ksinny> ttomecek: It's cookie day :D 17:19:38 <ttomecek> cverna++ 17:19:38 <zodbot> ttomecek: Karma for cverna changed to 20 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:19:49 <ttomecek> neat! can I have some? 17:20:13 <sanja_> Karma already hit you with sookies 17:20:15 <sanja_> cookies 17:20:17 * ksinny thinks we can have a meeting just for distributing cookie to all deserving people :D 17:20:27 <sanja_> yes, MOAR MEETINGS 17:20:29 <dustymabe> :) 17:20:48 <sanja_> cookie meetings always good 17:21:12 <ksinny> yup, symbol of happiness 17:22:08 <ksinny> Any more topic for discussion in open floor ? 17:22:43 <ksinny> seems not 17:22:46 * ksinny will wait for 30 seconds and then will end the meeting 17:22:47 <sanja_> :) 17:23:05 <sanja_> thanks everyone, great cookie distribution today and thanks for chairing the meeting ksinny 17:23:14 <ksinny> #endmeeting