19:00:05 <jkurik> #startmeeting F28 Beta Readiness Meeting
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19:00:10 <jkurik> #meetingname f28-beta-readiness-meeting
19:00:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'f28-beta-readiness-meeting'
19:00:15 <jkurik> #topic Roll Call
19:00:20 <jkurik> .hello jkurik
19:00:21 <zodbot> jkurik: jkurik 'Jan Kurik' <jkurik@redhat.com>
19:00:23 <puiterwijk> .hello2
19:00:24 <zodbot> puiterwijk: puiterwijk 'Patrick "マルタインアンドレアス" Uiterwijk' <puiterwijk@redhat.com>
19:00:27 <bowlofeggs> .hello2
19:00:28 <zodbot> bowlofeggs: bowlofeggs 'Randy Barlow' <rbarlow@redhat.com>
19:00:28 <nb> .hello2
19:00:30 <zodbot> nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' <nb@nb.zone>
19:00:38 <jkurik> #chair nirik adamw mattdm bexelbie mboddu puiterwijk nb
19:00:38 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw bexelbie jkurik mattdm mboddu nb nirik puiterwijk
19:00:47 <jkurik> Hello everyone
19:00:48 <mboddu> .hello mohanboddu
19:00:49 <nirik> morning (again)
19:00:49 <zodbot> mboddu: mohanboddu 'Mohan Boddu' <mboddu@bhujji.com>
19:00:52 <coremodule> .hello coremodule
19:00:53 <zodbot> coremodule: coremodule 'Geoffrey Marr' <gmarr@redhat.com>
19:00:54 <adamw> .hello adamwill
19:00:56 <zodbot> adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' <awilliam@redhat.com>
19:00:59 <mboddu> jkurik: Hello again :)
19:01:03 <adamw> sometime, maybe i'll get to take a shower
19:01:30 <jkurik> #topic Purpose of this meeting
19:01:36 <jkurik> #info Before each public release all of the groups participating the development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release is well coordinated.
19:01:40 <jkurik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings
19:01:52 <jkurik> #topic Current status
19:01:58 <jkurik> #info Fedora 28 Beta is No-Go
19:02:12 <jkurik> #info The Beta release slips for one week to “Target #1” date (April 3rd). We are not going to slip the Final GA yet.
19:02:52 <jkurik> ok, so lets go around and check whether we are ready once we have GOLD RC
19:02:54 <jkurik> #topic Design
19:03:16 <jkurik> As far as I am aware the wallpapers are ready. There are no other deliverables from the Design team
19:03:22 <jkurik> mizmo: Would you like to comment on the readiness status ?
19:03:31 <jonatoni> .hello jonatoni
19:03:32 <zodbot> jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
19:04:21 <jkurik> looks like we have lost mizmo...
19:04:37 <jkurik> #info wallpapers are ready. There are no other deliverables from the Design team.
19:05:00 <jkurik> #action jkurik to check with mizmo offline there is nothing else which might block the release
19:05:11 <jkurik> #topic Infrastructure
19:05:18 <jkurik> nirik, puiterwijk:  Any known issues which might block us from releasing F28 Beta ?
19:05:20 <bowlofeggs> bodhi is g2g
19:05:26 <nirik> nope. we are ready to go
19:05:28 <puiterwijk> I think that the infra is good
19:05:34 <nirik> as soon as we have final bits
19:05:39 <jkurik> excellent
19:05:56 <jkurik> #info Infra is good and ready to go
19:06:05 <jkurik> #topic Ambassadors
19:06:10 * nb thinks ambassadors are fine
19:06:11 <jkurik> According to the communication I had with robyduck, there should not be any blocking issue from ambassadors side.
19:06:22 <x3mboy> .hello2
19:06:23 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
19:06:23 <jonatoni> yes
19:06:39 <jkurik> thanks nb and jonatoni for the confirmation
19:07:14 <jkurik> #info Ambassadors are ready. No know blocking issues for the F28 Beta release
19:07:21 <jkurik> #topic Documentation
19:07:30 <jkurik> bexelbie: can you please provide us with readiness status for Documentation ?
19:07:53 * jkurik is not sure whether bexelbie is able to join ....
19:08:19 <jkurik> ok, so ...from the off-line communication I had with bexelbie:
19:08:23 <jkurik> As there are no formal deliverables of the Doc team for Beta, there is no blocker for F28 Beta release from the Doc team.
19:08:31 <jkurik> However the Doc team would like to ask for a help in these two areas:
19:08:43 <jkurik> rework the Release Notes package.  This needs an experienced packager and someone who can figure out how to pull down all of a websites dependencies, not just the ones served from the docs.fp.o server. i.e. various javascript libraries. This may not be hard, but the Doc team is short of people-power.
19:08:55 <jkurik> and Writers and Change Owners who will write about what is new/changed.
19:09:05 <jkurik> #info As there are no formal deliverables of the Doc team for Beta, there is no blocker for F28 Beta release from the Doc team.
19:09:37 <jkurik> #help The Doc team would like to ask for help: rework of the Release Notes package.  This needs an experienced packager and someone who can figure out how to pull down all of a websites dependencies, not just the ones served from the docs.fp.o server. i.e. various javascript libraries. This may not be hard, but the Doc team is short of people-power.
19:09:47 <jkurik> #help Writers and Change Owners who will write about what is new/changed.
19:10:09 <jkurik> #topic FESCo
19:10:12 <jkurik> nirik, sgallagh, dgilmore, maxamillion, jsmith, zbyszek,till, bowlofeggs, jwb: anyone of you wants to speak in the name of FESCo ?
19:10:16 <nirik> I can.
19:10:25 <x3mboy> !
19:10:28 <jsmith> Sure, nirik and I can :-)
19:10:37 <nirik> The one blocker we have is the modularity change.
19:10:50 <jkurik> I was afraid to ask :)
19:10:50 <nirik> but I think it's all in place now and ready for release.
19:11:00 <mattdm> \o/
19:11:02 <jkurik> ok, thanks nirik
19:11:13 <nirik> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1537253
19:11:49 <nirik> it is at least ready to test and we know what we are testing now. ;)
19:11:50 <jkurik> #info FESCo see the modularity change as possible blocker, however all seems to be in place now and ready for release.
19:12:01 <jkurik> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1537253
19:12:42 <jkurik> #info from the FESCo perspective is the modularity change at least ready to test
19:12:50 <jkurik> thanks nirik
19:12:58 <jkurik> #topic Marketing
19:13:02 <jkurik> x3mboy: may I ask you please for the status ?
19:13:18 <x3mboy> Yes, we have the project-wide changes
19:13:30 <x3mboy> And we are working in collecting the talking points
19:13:38 <x3mboy> bt0 is helping a lot with that
19:13:50 * bt0 says hi
19:14:03 <x3mboy> Also, screenshots will be made as soon as we hade an iso to run
19:14:41 <x3mboy> The release announcenment still need works, but I think we are ok, we still have a little time
19:14:52 <mattdm> It'd be super-helpful if the various editions and could weigh in on the talking points
19:14:55 <x3mboy> bt0, Do you want to add something else
19:15:08 <bt0> not really
19:15:11 <jkurik> #info Marketing team has project-wide changes. The team is working on collecting the talking points, screenshots to be gathered soon.
19:15:34 <jkurik> #info The release announcenment still need works, but should be ready for the release
19:16:03 <jkurik> x3mboy, bt0: thank you both
19:16:21 <mattdm> #info We could particularly use more exciting and in-depth talking points from the Editions
19:16:27 <mattdm> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_28_talking_points
19:16:57 <jkurik> #topic Fedora Engineering/Infrastructure Manager
19:16:58 * bt0 is taking notes
19:18:04 <jkurik> we are missing jperrin today, however as Infra team is ready, I guess it is fine to skip the manager's status for now...
19:18:42 <jkurik> #info As the Infra team is ready, we are skipping the Engineering/Infrastructure Manager status update
19:18:50 <jkurik> #topic Fedora Project Leader
19:19:20 <mattdm> Yeah I'm basically ready
19:19:21 <jkurik> mattdm: are you aware of any issue possibly blocking the F28 Beta release, except the missing RC
19:19:37 <mattdm> Heh. "Except that there is nothing to release, it's great!"
19:20:06 <jkurik> mattdm: once, there will be something
19:20:25 <mattdm> my main concern is the talking points and docs stuff. bt0 and x3mboy are super awesome but this should also be coming from the edition wgs
19:20:44 <jkurik> #info FPL is ready for the release, except that there is nothing to release at the moment
19:21:02 <x3mboy> Well, we just lurk into everybody's meetings and ask
19:21:04 <jkurik> #info FPL concerns are the talking points and docs stuff.
19:21:21 <jkurik> x3mboy++
19:21:21 <zodbot> jkurik: Karma for x3mboy changed to 25 (for the f27 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
19:21:24 <mattdm> x3mboy: yeah, we need to get it so they're coming to you. but in the meantime that's very helpful :)
19:21:53 <jkurik> #topic QA
19:22:31 <jkurik> adamw: any thougts from QA perspective on the F28 Beta readiness ?
19:22:43 <adamw> nothing specific.
19:22:46 <adamw> we're just trying to fix blockers.
19:23:11 <adamw> might be possible to get to an rc by tomorrow, i guess.
19:23:38 <jkurik> #info QA is working on fixing blockers. Estimation for getting an RC is tomorrow
19:23:42 <jkurik> thanks adamw
19:23:48 <jkurik> #topic Release Engineering
19:23:51 <mboddu> We are good to go except for the existing blockers and no RC
19:23:54 <jkurik> mboddu: beside of the fact, there is no RC, is there anything you see as an issue with the F28 Beta readiness ?
19:24:01 <jkurik> mboddu: ok, thanks
19:24:05 <mboddu> jkurik: Nope, we are good
19:24:33 <jkurik> #info Release Engineering is good to go except for the existing blockers and no RC
19:24:40 <jkurik> #topic Websites
19:24:45 <jkurik> do we have robyduck ?
19:25:06 <jkurik> probably not ....
19:25:11 <jkurik> According to the off-line communication I had with robyduck, websites are not yet ready, however these should be ready on time
19:25:41 <jkurik> #info According to robyduck, websites are not yet ready, however these should be ready on time for the F28 Beta release
19:25:48 <jkurik> #topic Translations
19:26:03 <jkurik> From the off-line communication I had with the Translation team, I would state the status as follows:
19:26:21 <jkurik> #info Things are more-or-less working as they usually do. The translation team does not currently see any issue which might possibly block the F28 Beta release.
19:26:29 <jkurik> #topic CommOps
19:26:40 <jkurik> There are no direct deliverables for the F28 Beta release from CommOps team, however I would like to give a room to team representatives to express their POV.
19:26:48 <jkurik> Is there anyone from the CommOps team to provide an F28 Readiness update of the team ?
19:27:16 <x3mboy> I'm here, but I have no idea if we had something about it. Probably jwf is not online
19:27:30 <jkurik> jwf appologized
19:27:44 <jkurik> ok, so then lets move on
19:27:53 <jkurik> #topic Open floor
19:27:58 <jkurik> anything else anyone would like to discuss ?
19:28:35 <jkurik> if not, then I will end the meeting in 1 minute...
19:29:40 <jkurik> thanks all for comming and for all the hard work
19:29:44 <jkurik> #endmeeting