19:00:05 #startmeeting F28 Beta Readiness Meeting 19:00:05 Meeting started Thu Mar 22 19:00:05 2018 UTC. The chair is jkurik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:05 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:05 The meeting name has been set to 'f28_beta_readiness_meeting' 19:00:10 #meetingname f28-beta-readiness-meeting 19:00:10 The meeting name has been set to 'f28-beta-readiness-meeting' 19:00:15 #topic Roll Call 19:00:20 .hello jkurik 19:00:21 jkurik: jkurik 'Jan Kurik' 19:00:23 .hello2 19:00:24 puiterwijk: puiterwijk 'Patrick "マルタインアンドレアス" Uiterwijk' 19:00:27 .hello2 19:00:28 bowlofeggs: bowlofeggs 'Randy Barlow' 19:00:28 .hello2 19:00:30 nb: nb 'Nick Bebout' 19:00:38 #chair nirik adamw mattdm bexelbie mboddu puiterwijk nb 19:00:38 Current chairs: adamw bexelbie jkurik mattdm mboddu nb nirik puiterwijk 19:00:47 Hello everyone 19:00:48 .hello mohanboddu 19:00:49 morning (again) 19:00:49 mboddu: mohanboddu 'Mohan Boddu' 19:00:52 .hello coremodule 19:00:53 coremodule: coremodule 'Geoffrey Marr' 19:00:54 .hello adamwill 19:00:56 adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' 19:00:59 jkurik: Hello again :) 19:01:03 sometime, maybe i'll get to take a shower 19:01:30 #topic Purpose of this meeting 19:01:36 #info Before each public release all of the groups participating the development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release is well coordinated. 19:01:40 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings 19:01:52 #topic Current status 19:01:58 #info Fedora 28 Beta is No-Go 19:02:12 #info The Beta release slips for one week to “Target #1” date (April 3rd). We are not going to slip the Final GA yet. 19:02:52 ok, so lets go around and check whether we are ready once we have GOLD RC 19:02:54 #topic Design 19:03:16 As far as I am aware the wallpapers are ready. There are no other deliverables from the Design team 19:03:22 mizmo: Would you like to comment on the readiness status ? 19:03:31 .hello jonatoni 19:03:32 jonatoni: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' 19:04:21 looks like we have lost mizmo... 19:04:37 #info wallpapers are ready. There are no other deliverables from the Design team. 19:05:00 #action jkurik to check with mizmo offline there is nothing else which might block the release 19:05:11 #topic Infrastructure 19:05:18 nirik, puiterwijk: Any known issues which might block us from releasing F28 Beta ? 19:05:20 bodhi is g2g 19:05:26 nope. we are ready to go 19:05:28 I think that the infra is good 19:05:34 as soon as we have final bits 19:05:39 excellent 19:05:56 #info Infra is good and ready to go 19:06:05 #topic Ambassadors 19:06:10 * nb thinks ambassadors are fine 19:06:11 According to the communication I had with robyduck, there should not be any blocking issue from ambassadors side. 19:06:22 .hello2 19:06:23 x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' 19:06:23 yes 19:06:39 thanks nb and jonatoni for the confirmation 19:07:14 #info Ambassadors are ready. No know blocking issues for the F28 Beta release 19:07:21 #topic Documentation 19:07:30 bexelbie: can you please provide us with readiness status for Documentation ? 19:07:53 * jkurik is not sure whether bexelbie is able to join .... 19:08:19 ok, so ...from the off-line communication I had with bexelbie: 19:08:23 As there are no formal deliverables of the Doc team for Beta, there is no blocker for F28 Beta release from the Doc team. 19:08:31 However the Doc team would like to ask for a help in these two areas: 19:08:43 rework the Release Notes package. This needs an experienced packager and someone who can figure out how to pull down all of a websites dependencies, not just the ones served from the docs.fp.o server. i.e. various javascript libraries. This may not be hard, but the Doc team is short of people-power. 19:08:55 and Writers and Change Owners who will write about what is new/changed. 19:09:05 #info As there are no formal deliverables of the Doc team for Beta, there is no blocker for F28 Beta release from the Doc team. 19:09:37 #help The Doc team would like to ask for help: rework of the Release Notes package. This needs an experienced packager and someone who can figure out how to pull down all of a websites dependencies, not just the ones served from the docs.fp.o server. i.e. various javascript libraries. This may not be hard, but the Doc team is short of people-power. 19:09:47 #help Writers and Change Owners who will write about what is new/changed. 19:10:09 #topic FESCo 19:10:12 nirik, sgallagh, dgilmore, maxamillion, jsmith, zbyszek,till, bowlofeggs, jwb: anyone of you wants to speak in the name of FESCo ? 19:10:16 I can. 19:10:25 ! 19:10:28 Sure, nirik and I can :-) 19:10:37 The one blocker we have is the modularity change. 19:10:50 I was afraid to ask :) 19:10:50 but I think it's all in place now and ready for release. 19:11:00 \o/ 19:11:02 ok, thanks nirik 19:11:13 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1537253 19:11:49 it is at least ready to test and we know what we are testing now. ;) 19:11:50 #info FESCo see the modularity change as possible blocker, however all seems to be in place now and ready for release. 19:12:01 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1537253 19:12:42 #info from the FESCo perspective is the modularity change at least ready to test 19:12:50 thanks nirik 19:12:58 #topic Marketing 19:13:02 x3mboy: may I ask you please for the status ? 19:13:18 Yes, we have the project-wide changes 19:13:30 And we are working in collecting the talking points 19:13:38 bt0 is helping a lot with that 19:13:50 * bt0 says hi 19:14:03 Also, screenshots will be made as soon as we hade an iso to run 19:14:41 The release announcenment still need works, but I think we are ok, we still have a little time 19:14:52 It'd be super-helpful if the various editions and could weigh in on the talking points 19:14:55 bt0, Do you want to add something else 19:15:08 not really 19:15:11 #info Marketing team has project-wide changes. The team is working on collecting the talking points, screenshots to be gathered soon. 19:15:34 #info The release announcenment still need works, but should be ready for the release 19:16:03 x3mboy, bt0: thank you both 19:16:21 #info We could particularly use more exciting and in-depth talking points from the Editions 19:16:27 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_28_talking_points 19:16:57 #topic Fedora Engineering/Infrastructure Manager 19:16:58 * bt0 is taking notes 19:18:04 we are missing jperrin today, however as Infra team is ready, I guess it is fine to skip the manager's status for now... 19:18:42 #info As the Infra team is ready, we are skipping the Engineering/Infrastructure Manager status update 19:18:50 #topic Fedora Project Leader 19:19:20 Yeah I'm basically ready 19:19:21 mattdm: are you aware of any issue possibly blocking the F28 Beta release, except the missing RC 19:19:37 Heh. "Except that there is nothing to release, it's great!" 19:20:06 mattdm: once, there will be something 19:20:25 my main concern is the talking points and docs stuff. bt0 and x3mboy are super awesome but this should also be coming from the edition wgs 19:20:44 #info FPL is ready for the release, except that there is nothing to release at the moment 19:21:02 Well, we just lurk into everybody's meetings and ask 19:21:04 #info FPL concerns are the talking points and docs stuff. 19:21:21 x3mboy++ 19:21:21 jkurik: Karma for x3mboy changed to 25 (for the f27 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 19:21:24 x3mboy: yeah, we need to get it so they're coming to you. but in the meantime that's very helpful :) 19:21:53 #topic QA 19:22:31 adamw: any thougts from QA perspective on the F28 Beta readiness ? 19:22:43 nothing specific. 19:22:46 we're just trying to fix blockers. 19:23:11 might be possible to get to an rc by tomorrow, i guess. 19:23:38 #info QA is working on fixing blockers. Estimation for getting an RC is tomorrow 19:23:42 thanks adamw 19:23:48 #topic Release Engineering 19:23:51 We are good to go except for the existing blockers and no RC 19:23:54 mboddu: beside of the fact, there is no RC, is there anything you see as an issue with the F28 Beta readiness ? 19:24:01 mboddu: ok, thanks 19:24:05 jkurik: Nope, we are good 19:24:33 #info Release Engineering is good to go except for the existing blockers and no RC 19:24:40 #topic Websites 19:24:45 do we have robyduck ? 19:25:06 probably not .... 19:25:11 According to the off-line communication I had with robyduck, websites are not yet ready, however these should be ready on time 19:25:41 #info According to robyduck, websites are not yet ready, however these should be ready on time for the F28 Beta release 19:25:48 #topic Translations 19:26:03 From the off-line communication I had with the Translation team, I would state the status as follows: 19:26:21 #info Things are more-or-less working as they usually do. The translation team does not currently see any issue which might possibly block the F28 Beta release. 19:26:29 #topic CommOps 19:26:40 There are no direct deliverables for the F28 Beta release from CommOps team, however I would like to give a room to team representatives to express their POV. 19:26:48 Is there anyone from the CommOps team to provide an F28 Readiness update of the team ? 19:27:16 I'm here, but I have no idea if we had something about it. Probably jwf is not online 19:27:30 jwf appologized 19:27:44 ok, so then lets move on 19:27:53 #topic Open floor 19:27:58 anything else anyone would like to discuss ? 19:28:35 if not, then I will end the meeting in 1 minute... 19:29:40 thanks all for comming and for all the hard work 19:29:44 #endmeeting