19:00:07 <jkurik> #startmeeting F28 Final Readiness Meeting
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19:00:14 <jkurik> #meetingname f28-final-readiness-meeting
19:00:14 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'f28-final-readiness-meeting'
19:00:20 <jkurik> #topic Roll Call
19:00:25 <jkurik> .hello2
19:00:29 <zodbot> jkurik: jkurik 'Jan Kurik' <jkurik@redhat.com>
19:00:32 * sumantro is here
19:00:38 <jonatoni|m> .fas jonatoni
19:00:39 <zodbot> jonatoni|m: jonatoni 'Jona Azizaj' <jonaazizaj@gmail.com>
19:01:04 <patricku> Hello
19:01:11 <jkurik> #chair nirik adamw mattdm mboddu
19:01:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: adamw jkurik mattdm mboddu nirik
19:01:13 <patricku> .hello pUiterwijk
19:01:14 <zodbot> patricku: Sorry, but you don't exist
19:01:23 <jkurik> Hi everybody
19:01:25 <Kohane> Hello
19:01:25 <patricku> .hello puiterwijk
19:01:29 <zodbot> patricku: puiterwijk 'Patrick "マルタインアンドレアス" Uiterwijk' <puiterwijk@redhat.com>
19:01:30 <Kohane> .lailah
19:01:33 <adamw> .hello adamwill
19:01:37 <zodbot> adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' <awilliam@redhat.com>
19:01:38 <patricku> I swear I exist
19:01:42 <rluzynski> .hello2
19:01:43 <zodbot> rluzynski: rluzynski 'None' <digitalfreak@lingonborough.com>
19:01:44 <jkurik> #topic Purpose of this meeting
19:01:48 <mattdm> will be a few minutes
19:01:53 <jkurik> #info Before each public release all of the groups participating the development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release is well coordinated.
19:01:55 <Kohane> patricku: I don't believe you
19:02:00 <jkurik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings
19:02:04 <Kohane> .fas lailah
19:02:04 <zodbot> Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' <BHKohane@gmail.com>
19:02:06 <jkurik> #topic Current status
19:02:15 <jkurik> #info Fedora 28 Final is GO
19:02:21 <jkurik> #info The Fedora_28_RC_1.1 is considered as GOLD and we are going to ship it on May 1st, 2018
19:02:52 <mboddu> .hello mohanboddu
19:02:53 <zodbot> mboddu: mohanboddu 'Mohan Boddu' <mboddu@bhujji.com>
19:03:13 <nirik> morning
19:03:22 <Kohane> Evening
19:03:23 <robyduck> .hello robyduck
19:03:24 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
19:03:25 <x3mboy> .hello2
19:03:25 <Kohane> :-D
19:03:27 <zodbot> x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' <eduardlucena@gmail.com>
19:03:40 <Kohane> Hi Eduard
19:03:56 <x3mboy> Hi Lailah/Kohane :-D
19:04:00 <jkurik> lets start....
19:04:03 <jkurik> #topic Design
19:04:10 <jkurik> As far as I am aware the wallpapers are ready.
19:04:18 <jkurik> mizmo: Would you like to comment on the readiness status ?
19:04:54 <Kohane> x3mboy: LEL
19:05:19 <jkurik> mizmo: are you here ?
19:07:14 <jkurik> #info Status from the Design team is missing, however Wallpapers, as the blocking deliverable, are ready
19:07:22 <jkurik> #topic Infrastructure
19:07:26 * mattdm is here now
19:07:32 <jkurik> nirik, puiterwijk:  Any known issues which might block us from releasing F28 Final ?
19:07:39 <patricku> jkurik: nope.
19:07:45 <nirik> nope
19:07:47 <patricku> I’d say infra is ready.
19:08:23 <jkurik> #info Infra is ready for the F28 Final release. There are no know issues from the Infra team POV.
19:08:30 <jkurik> thanks nirik, puiterwijk
19:08:37 <jkurik> #topic Ambassadors
19:08:43 <jkurik> Jonatoni: May I ask you for an update please ?
19:09:15 <jonatoni|m> We don't have any blocking issue. Ambassadors are getting ready for Release Parties :)
19:09:15 <bowlofeggs> .hello2
19:09:16 <zodbot> bowlofeggs: bowlofeggs 'Randy Barlow' <rbarlow@redhat.com>
19:09:56 <jkurik> #info Ambassadors are getting ready for Release Parties and are not aware of any blocking issue.
19:09:59 <jkurik> thanks jonatoni|m
19:10:08 <jkurik> #topic Documentation
19:10:18 <jkurik> I have got an off-line response from the Doc team:
19:10:25 <jkurik> #info Documentation team is reporting readiness of the Release Notes. Work on Documentation is still in progress and is not considered as blocking for the F28 Final release.
19:10:47 <jkurik> #topic FESCo
19:10:54 <jkurik> nirik, sgallagh, dgilmore, maxamillion, jsmith, zbyszek,till, bowlofeggs, jwb: anyone of you wants to speak in the name of FESCo ?
19:10:55 <bowlofeggs> +1 from me (1/9 of fesco)
19:11:06 <nirik> no issues. +1
19:11:17 <jwb> +1
19:12:10 <jkurik> #info FESCo is not aware of any issue and all the present members are +1 to go live with the F28 Final.
19:12:13 <jkurik> thanks FESCo
19:12:20 <jkurik> #topic Marketing
19:12:27 <jkurik> x3mboy: may I ask you please for the status ?
19:13:02 <x3mboy> Sure, from marketing we are ready. The Release Announcement for the Final Release have been passed to the FPL, who is working on it in collaboration with us
19:13:18 <x3mboy> Also, the Screenshots will be take between today and next saturday
19:13:27 <jkurik> x3mboy: excellent
19:13:28 <jkurik> thanks
19:13:59 <jkurik> #info Marketing is ready for the release. The Release Announcement for the Final Release have been passed to the FPL, who is working on it in collaboration with the Marketing team.
19:14:19 <jkurik> #info Screenshots will be take between today and next saturday
19:14:27 <jkurik> #topic Fedora Project Leader
19:14:36 <jkurik> mattdm: may I ask you please ask for your status regarding the F28 Final release ?
19:15:13 * jkurik assumes mattdm is working with Marketing team on the Release Announcement
19:16:03 <jsmith> I think that's a safe assumption :-)
19:16:23 <jkurik> :-)
19:16:27 <bowlofeggs> mattdm told me to tell you all that he is going to pay us each $1 for every minute it takes him to respond to this
19:16:51 <Lailah> Yay!
19:17:01 <Lailah> He can take all the time he needs, you know
19:17:04 <bowlofeggs> haha
19:17:04 <Lailah> :-D
19:17:10 <Evolution> so this is my first one of these meetings, but it was blocked out for 2 hours... is that time just waiting for mattdm to reply to things?
19:17:25 <jkurik> ok, lets move on and return back once mattdm is awailable
19:17:27 <jkurik> #undo
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19:17:33 <bowlofeggs> Evolution: haha
19:17:38 <jkurik> #topic QA
19:17:46 <jkurik> adamw - can you please provide us with a readiness status ?
19:17:55 <jkurik> or kparal ?
19:18:17 <adamw> hi
19:18:21 <adamw> busy doing important research
19:18:28 <adamw> qa is same as usual, basically done, need to write commonbugs
19:18:41 <adamw> maybe chase up some important things it'd be good to get 0 day update sfor
19:19:24 <jkurik> #info QE is basically done, need to write commonbugs.
19:19:24 <adamw> i would also like to note for the record that this will be the first entirely on-time Fedora release *at least* since fc6 and i think very likely ever (at least all releases from 7 to 27 were delayed at least a week from the initial announced schedule)
19:19:36 * adamw is still researching 6 and earlier
19:19:43 * mattdm is back again
19:19:49 <mattdm> how many dollars do I owe?
19:19:58 <puiterwijk> mattdm: 5 dollars to everyone here
19:20:01 <puiterwijk> (5 minutes)
19:20:20 <robyduck> puiterwijk++
19:20:20 <Lailah> Just five dollars? Oh...
19:20:20 <mboddu> adamw: When you put it that way, its scary :)
19:20:22 <jkurik> #help QE would like to chase up 0 day updates
19:20:24 <bowlofeggs> yeah i can't believe we are on time
19:20:36 <bowlofeggs> am i in the same universe i was in yesterday or have i switched to a different once?
19:20:42 <mattdm> Five virtual dollars for everyone!
19:20:48 <mattdm> I hope you take fedocoin
19:20:50 <nirik> adamw: fc releases didn't have a public announced release time/date
19:20:56 <bowlofeggs> mattdm: that's enough for me to buy a virtual chicken sandwich!
19:20:58 <nirik> they were internal to RH
19:20:58 <mboddu> bowlofeggs: Parallel universe, where things go on time :)
19:21:00 <mattdm> It's a new mod-13 based cryptocurrency
19:21:07 <Lailah> bowlofeggs: You switched to a different universe where Fedora is released in time.
19:21:11 <robyduck> and releasing on Labor Day :D
19:21:32 <adamw> nirik: i beg to differ, sir! https://news.softpedia.com/news/Fedora-Core-6-Preliminary-Schedule-22117.shtml
19:21:38 <jkurik> #info QE statement: this will be the first entirely on-time Fedora release *at least* since fc6 and very likely ever
19:21:46 <mboddu> mattdm: Can we mine them yet? :P
19:21:54 <jkurik> thanks adamw
19:21:56 <mattdm> TBH, while that's awesome and exciting, I kinda want to downplay it
19:22:04 <bowlofeggs> i'm glad i'm getting in on the ground with this hot new fedocoin thing
19:22:07 <mattdm> because I've been pushing back on all of the "fedora is always late" messaging
19:22:11 <adamw> i wish we had the moinmoin wiki archives somewhere.
19:22:12 <jkurik> #topic Fedora Project Leader
19:22:12 <bowlofeggs> i'm gonna be rich is FOSS bucks!
19:22:15 <bowlofeggs> *in
19:22:26 <adamw> mattdm: i know, it's just tickling my research nerve.
19:22:37 <mattdm> and it's only fair to make it not a big deal in this direction too
19:22:50 <mattdm> adamw: +1 yeah I'm personally super-curious in your findings :)
19:22:58 <jkurik> mattdm: may I ask you please ask for your status regarding the F28 Final release ?
19:22:59 <nirik> well, 'preliminary..' I recall them saying that wasn't any hard promise... but ok
19:23:01 <mattdm> anyway, yeah, I'm super-ready
19:23:09 <mattdm> I mean, I still hae to actually write the annoucement
19:23:21 <Lailah> I suppose...
19:23:26 <mattdm> I know basically what I am going to write but have not put any virtual pen to virtual paper
19:23:33 <mattdm> But, that's what weekends are for, right?
19:23:46 <jsmith> mattdm: What's a weekend?!?
19:23:48 * jsmith ducks and hides
19:24:03 <mattdm> the time I use to get work done because there aren't so many meetings!
19:24:09 <puiterwijk> mattdm: exactly!
19:24:27 <mboddu> mattdm: Are you gonna say "First time in Fedora history, like never before, ... " Apple style :)
19:24:42 <jkurik> #info FPL is super-ready, just needs to finish the announcement. FPL is going to sacrifice his weekend to have it ready.
19:25:05 <jkurik> #topic Release Engineering
19:25:16 <mboddu> jkurik: We are Go
19:25:21 <puiterwijk> Releng is preparing for 0-day updates, but I think we're good there
19:26:25 <jkurik> mboddu: In CZ (I am not sure about other countries) there is public holidays on May 1st. Does it possibly affects somehow the release ?
19:26:39 <mboddu> jkurik: Nope
19:26:45 <jkurik> excellent
19:26:57 <mboddu> For f28 beta, US had a holiday, but we still be able to release it
19:27:10 <puiterwijk> jkurik: looking at a list, there's a lot of countries with holidays on May 1st. That won't stop us :)
19:27:21 <puiterwijk> (U.S. isn't on the list for May 1 though it seems)
19:27:31 <robyduck> jkurik: I guess in most of EU countries it's holiday
19:27:45 <mattdm> yeah, and many of us were working like crazy on july 4 last year
19:28:15 <jkurik> #info RelEng is getting ready for 0day updates. Even public holidays on May 1st, in some countries, are not going to stop RelEng from releasing the F28 Final.
19:28:31 <jkurik> thanks mboddu, nirik
19:28:32 <puiterwijk> mattdm: sssh. I've been told to not announce publicly when you're working when you shouldn't. People will ask why you're working! :)
19:28:48 <jkurik> #topic Websites
19:28:51 <Lailah> UK has and hasn't May 1st as holiday. I know because I'm on the side that hasn't
19:28:55 <jkurik> robyduck: may I ask you please for an update ?
19:29:08 <robyduck> Websites are in a good shape already, we are ready to make the last changes over the weekend
19:29:11 <mattdm> Thank you all for working on the holiday
19:29:15 <mattdm> by the way :)
19:29:30 <jkurik> #info Websites are in a good shape already, we are ready to make the last changes over the weekend
19:29:34 <jkurik> robyduck: thanks
19:29:40 <robyduck> jkurik: YW
19:29:40 <Lailah> mattdm: Which holiday?
19:29:41 <jkurik> #topic Translations
19:29:52 <jkurik> raven, jibec, pravin: would you provide us with the F28 Final translation status ?
19:29:55 <mattdm> may 1
19:29:59 <Lailah> Oh.
19:30:14 <Lailah> It's not holiday here,.
19:30:16 * jkurik is not sure whether we have someone from the Transation team today ....
19:30:35 <Lailah> jkurik: That's a good question.
19:30:39 <Lailah> I didn't see anyone
19:31:05 <jkurik> yeah, fortunatelly the Translations are not blocking for the release
19:31:35 <Lailah> Good.
19:32:18 <jkurik> #info We do not have an status update from the Translation team, however translations are not blocking for the release.
19:32:25 <jkurik> #topic CommOps
19:32:33 <jkurik> There are no direct deliverables for the F28 Final release from CommOps team, however I would like to give a room to team representatives to express their POV. So, ...
19:32:39 <jkurik> Is there anyone from the CommOps team to provide an F28 Final Readiness update of the team ?
19:34:05 <jkurik> looks like no ....
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19:34:15 <jkurik> #topic Open floor
19:34:20 <jkurik> anything else anyone would like to discuss ?
19:34:43 <Lailah> Not that I can think of.
19:34:44 <jkurik> otherwise I am going to close the meeting in one minute
19:36:30 <adamw> fc6 was late by any reasonable definition
19:36:35 <jkurik> #info Thanks everybody for the hard work on F28 release and congratulation to the whole community for the non-delayed Final release in after several years.
19:36:36 * adamw working on fc5
19:36:36 <adamw> :P
19:36:58 <jkurik> #endmeeting