14:00:32 <smooge> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2018-07-19)
14:00:32 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 19 14:00:32 2018 UTC.
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14:00:32 <smooge> #meetingname infrastructure
14:00:32 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
14:00:33 <smooge> #topic aloha
14:00:33 <smooge> #chair nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge tflink threebean
14:00:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge tflink threebean
14:00:41 <relrod> morning
14:00:48 <nirik> good morning everyone.
14:00:50 <creaked> morning
14:00:54 <creaked> .hello2
14:00:57 <zodbot> creaked: creaked 'Will Chellman' <creaked@gmail.com>
14:01:25 <bcotton> .hello2
14:01:27 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
14:01:53 <smooge> good morning
14:02:03 <smooge> I hope you all are well
14:02:13 <pingou> o/
14:02:16 * pingou fixing pagure as well
14:02:40 <smooge> ok next up
14:02:48 <smooge> #topic New folks introductions
14:02:48 <smooge> #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
14:03:02 <smooge> do we have any new people?
14:03:06 <queue-tip> I'm new
14:03:10 <queue-tip> hello
14:03:17 <smooge> hello queue-tip
14:03:38 <smooge> I am guessing you are not a circular queue
14:03:45 <queue-tip> no lol
14:03:48 <nirik> welcome queue-tip.
14:04:24 <queue-tip> Thank you. I sent an email to the list for an intro.
14:04:30 <queue-tip> Is that enough or should I say more now?
14:04:40 <smooge> cool ... is behind on email at the moment
14:06:17 <smooge> queue-tip, I can add you to apprentice after this meeting
14:06:31 <smooge> msg me with your fas account
14:06:47 <smooge> #topic announcements and information
14:06:47 <smooge> #info tflink is on extended PTO
14:06:47 <smooge> #info FLOCK in Dresden is 2018-08-08->2018-08-13?
14:06:47 <smooge> #info visit to PHX2 will be happening 2018-08-15->2018-08-18
14:06:57 <smooge> Any other announcements?
14:07:26 <linuxmodder> .hello2
14:07:27 <zodbot> linuxmodder: linuxmodder 'Corey W Sheldon' <sheldon.corey@gmail.com>
14:07:29 <linuxmodder> majorly late
14:07:49 <pingou> #info new pagure release: 4.0.4 running fine so far in stg and prod
14:08:31 <rpbarlow> .hello2
14:08:35 <rpbarlow> (sorry for my tardiness)
14:08:35 <zodbot> rpbarlow: Sorry, but you don't exist
14:08:40 <nirik> pingou: any idea when 5.0 might land? :)
14:08:41 <bowlofeggs> .hello2
14:08:42 <zodbot> bowlofeggs: bowlofeggs 'Randy Barlow' <rbarlow@redhat.com>
14:08:46 <vismay> .hello2
14:08:47 <zodbot> vismay: Sorry, but you don't exist
14:08:48 * cverna waves
14:09:02 <pingou> nirik: I want the mirroring feature to land in 5.0 and I'd like our security officer to review it :)
14:09:23 <pingou> after that, cutting a beta and pushing it to stg (which I may end up doing even w/o the mirroring actually)
14:09:39 <smooge> cool
14:09:48 <nirik> I'd love to see the new ui. ;)
14:09:49 <linuxmodder> mirroring feature? I seem to be behind on that
14:09:51 * pingou looking forward, the new UI looks really nice
14:09:57 <bowlofeggs> #info bodhi-3.9.0b0 is deployed to staging https://bodhi.stg.fedoraproject.org/docs/user/release_notes.html
14:10:15 <pingou> bowlofeggs: got a fix for it :)
14:10:45 <smooge> bowlofeggs, pingou cool
14:10:46 <bowlofeggs> pingou: cool - i haven't had time to test it yet myself, except i found a couple problems with the CLI
14:10:47 <pingou> otherwise, from my little testing it looks good :)
14:11:00 <pingou> bowlofeggs: with the waive action?
14:11:18 <relrod> Is there somewhere we can see the new ui?
14:11:19 <bowlofeggs> pingou: no, the problems i found were related to notes
14:11:22 <pingou> ok
14:11:28 <pingou> relrod: not yet
14:11:34 <bowlofeggs> oh and to building (a doc building problem, fixed)
14:11:47 <bowlofeggs> ryan sent me a screen shot of the new pagure UI looks nice
14:11:58 <bowlofeggs> ryan is good
14:12:01 <pingou> I had an issue with the doc building at one point
14:12:17 <pingou> (but didn't manage to fix it)
14:12:36 <bowlofeggs> this one was weird because it didn't happen in CI but it did happen in koji (only on f27)
14:12:43 <bowlofeggs> i never figured out why CI didn't catch it, but i did fix it
14:12:57 <smooge> ok does this need to be a different topic?
14:13:01 <bowlofeggs> nah
14:13:02 <bowlofeggs> sorry
14:13:03 <bowlofeggs> haha
14:13:27 <pingou> screenshots: https://pagure.io/pagure/pull-request/3400 https://pagure.io/pagure/pull-request/3390 https://pagure.io/pagure/pull-request/3385 https://pagure.io/pagure/pull-request/3374 https://pagure.io/pagure/pull-request/3370
14:13:33 <pingou> https://pagure.io/pagure/pull-request/3360
14:13:43 <pingou> that should give you some ideas :)
14:14:35 <cverna> Ryan++
14:14:55 <smooge> col
14:14:59 <smooge> ok next topic?
14:15:14 <smooge> #topic Oncall
14:15:14 <smooge> #info Smooge is on call from 2018-07-19->2018-07-26
14:15:14 <smooge> #info Kevin? is on call from 2018-07-26->2018-08-02
14:15:14 <smooge> #Info Smooge is on call from 2018-08-03->2018-08-14
14:15:14 <smooge> #info ??? is on call from 2018-08-15->2018-08-23
14:15:15 <smooge> #info Summary of last week: (from relrod)
14:15:32 <smooge> I got confused last night and thought it was Thursday and took over on call yesterday
14:15:43 <nirik> just eager for it eh? :)
14:15:46 <relrod> hah
14:16:02 <smooge> relrod, were there any items or problems that came up needing continued care?
14:16:28 <smooge> I scheduled the above since ricky being on call for 3 days before flying to EU was silly
14:16:39 <relrod> smooge: not much I can think of off hand, all the .oncall pings I can remember were one-off tasks this week
14:16:50 <smooge> ok cool
14:17:35 <bowlofeggs> do you all think the oncall system has been helpful to you? i expect it has, just curious
14:18:00 <nirik> I think it definitely has...
14:18:28 <smooge> i have 2 weeks where I can focus on work items and 1 week where I am ping bait
14:18:32 <nirik> not as much when things have been slower, but very much when things are busy.
14:18:49 <bowlofeggs> yeah it's a good system imo
14:18:53 <pingou> +1
14:18:57 <relrod> Yeah, I've found it useful
14:19:44 <smooge> relrod, when are you back from EU?
14:19:56 <smooge> I think you are taking some PTO time after flock?
14:20:02 <smooge> or was that someone else?
14:20:20 <relrod> smooge: I'm taking some before Flock (the Monday and Tuesday before)
14:20:38 <smooge> ah ok
14:20:50 * pingou is considering being off during flock
14:21:07 <relrod> I leave Dresden on Sunday (ie the day after Flock)
14:21:21 <smooge> pingou, wait.. I won't have you to talk to while everyone else is having people time?
14:21:34 <smooge> ok cool
14:21:44 <smooge> #topic flock 2018 - dresden - kevin
14:21:44 <smooge> #info who can make the infrafixfest workshop?
14:21:44 <smooge> #info who can make the infra plan and hackfest?
14:21:51 <smooge> kevin you are up
14:21:52 <aikidouke> smooge - I'll be staying home...sort of..
14:21:55 <pingou> smooge: I thought it would be a good time, since everybody will be mostly afk as well
14:22:51 <nirik> so, all my proposals got accepted. hurray?
14:23:02 <nirik> but I need everyone's help for 2 of them...
14:23:18 <nirik> 1) 2 hour workshop - fedora infra fixfest.
14:23:33 <smooge> are the scehdules up? aka are they on the same day at the same time?
14:24:04 <nirik> basically get everyone we can and have people come and tell us what bugs anoy them or they haven't filed because they are simple or whatever and we try and fix as much as we can in 2 hours and help people learn how to do so.
14:24:04 <bowlofeggs> nirik: i'm in
14:24:24 <nirik> if we don't get people we can work on whatever other bugs... perhaps some less used apps or something.
14:24:40 <bowlofeggs> i don't know if the schedule has been posted yet, so my "i'm in" assumes i don't have a conflict with my talk
14:24:49 <nirik> it's not posted yet...
14:25:18 <cverna> me too I ll be there if I don't have a conflict
14:25:18 <nirik> pingou: if you are available remote for pagure ones that might be cool... but I understand if it doesn't work out
14:25:49 <smooge> so the people who might be able to  help: cverna puiterwijk bowlofeggs relrod
14:26:23 <relrod> same - as long as they don't conflict with my talk, should be fine
14:26:26 <nirik> sure. And anyone who wants to fix things or has bugs we can possibly fix in 2 hours. ;)
14:26:31 <smooge> i would bring some paper and have a paper airplane contest if no one can
14:26:40 <nirik> smooge: good plan. ;)
14:27:01 <nirik> anyhow, the other session is:
14:27:21 <nirik> 2) a hackfest (I think it's 1/2 day or full day at the end) for planning and hacking...
14:27:34 <pingou> nirik: if I'm afk, that won't work for me :)
14:27:50 <pingou> but I'll likely pass by during the day since I'll be staying at home
14:28:13 <nirik> hopefully we can hash out things for the next year... and work on/discuss some things we can do in person.
14:28:26 <nirik> pingou: sure. :) should know more once we have a schedule...
14:29:32 <pingou> :)
14:29:51 <nirik> so anyhow, if folks could look out for those and plan to attend if possible it would make them work nicely. :)
14:30:07 <nirik> If there's other talks we want people to show up to, please let us know.
14:30:28 <smooge> ok good luck people. please add any other talks we want people to go to the agenda for next week
14:30:44 <bowlofeggs> puiterwijk and i are doing an infra + openshift talk
14:30:45 <smooge> #topic OSBS multi arch - ppc64le - cverna
14:30:48 <bowlofeggs> if people want to come
14:30:55 <bowlofeggs> not hack sesh, just pres
14:30:58 <smooge> cool
14:31:16 <nirik> bowlofeggs: will plan to attend and heckle. ;)
14:31:18 <smooge> sorry for constnatly changing topics just as start speaking bowlofeggs
14:31:44 <cverna> ok I take it
14:32:03 <cverna> So I will start working on bringing OSBS for mutli arch, and first looking at ppc64le
14:32:13 <bowlofeggs> nirik: heckling encouraged :)
14:32:22 <bowlofeggs> haha no worries smooge
14:32:26 <pingou> bowlofeggs: long or short hairs?
14:32:35 <bowlofeggs> pingou: both!
14:32:42 <nirik> cverna: cool.
14:32:55 <cverna> I will need to build an Origin cluster on ppc64le, just wanted to know what I need to do
14:32:56 <smooge> cverna, good luck. Hopefully that one will be easier
14:33:05 <cverna> I guess a RFR
14:33:37 <cverna> smooge: thanks, yes I hope too :)
14:33:43 <smooge> nirik, do we have free resources for PPC64LE?
14:33:46 <pingou> I think luck is what you need the most :D
14:33:58 <pingou> and potentially some ppc64le hardware
14:34:17 <nirik> smooge: not really. I guess we could destroy some builders.
14:34:37 <smooge> so when does ppc64 go away?
14:34:40 <cverna> I think the cluster would be similar to what we currently have for x86_64 1 master and maybe 2 node but we could do with 1 node
14:35:07 <bowlofeggs> this will make dgilmore happy
14:35:12 <nirik> smooge: f29+ I think
14:35:24 <smooge> ah so 1.5 years from nwo
14:35:37 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DiscontinuePPC64
14:35:57 <smooge> ok that won't help find builders then
14:36:07 <nirik> but yeah, we could kill some of those builders as they should have less builds once rawhide then f29 don't have them
14:37:57 <mizdebsk> cverna, can masters be on x86 and only nodes on ppc64le?
14:38:17 <smooge> ok I think I need to work out how many ppc64 systems we "require" and let IBM know where are since they might be sending Power9 replacements next year
14:38:35 <cverna> mizdebsk: unfortunately not, if I understood it correctly the all cluster need to be on the same arch
14:39:13 <cverna> I ll open an infra ticket, then we can sort out the details
14:39:30 <smooge> ok sounds good
14:39:32 <cverna> mizdebsk: this is a limitation of Origin
14:39:40 <mizdebsk> i see
14:40:08 <smooge> cverna, if it turns out that we can't do this on power.. would aarch64 be the next one?
14:41:17 <smooge> aka plan F if plans A-E aren't workable
14:41:49 <cverna> smooge: yes aarch64 is actually the main target, but we do not have origin available yet on aarch64
14:42:01 <cverna> it is currently only been built on ppc64le
14:43:21 <smooge> got it
14:43:53 <smooge> ok anything else on this topic? [waits for bowlofeggs to start saying something...]
14:44:07 <smooge> #topic Tickets discussion
14:44:07 <smooge> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/report/Meetings%20ticket
14:44:29 <nirik> I didn't mark much this week
14:44:32 <bowlofeggs> hah
14:44:36 <smooge> and we don't have any tickets
14:44:43 <nirik> if there's any pet ticket someone wants....
14:44:48 <puiterwijk> \o/ we're all done and can go on a holiday!
14:45:19 <aikidouke> :)
14:45:42 <nirik> CLOSED->OFF_TO_THE_BEACH
14:45:42 <pingou> yaks here we come!
14:46:32 <nirik> oh...
14:46:42 <nirik> smooge: did you want to say a bit about the SLE docs?
14:46:42 * cverna is going to the sea side this week end :)
14:47:33 <pingou> cverna: to see the polar bears?
14:47:57 <smooge> #topic Apprentice Open office minutes
14:47:57 <smooge> #info A time where apprentices may ask for help or look at problems.
14:48:08 <pingou> bowlofeggs: it's your clue :)
14:48:17 <bowlofeggs> hahah
14:48:19 <cverna> pingou: it is not that bad should be around 28C
14:48:29 <pingou> cverna: global warming is tough
14:48:33 <bowlofeggs> 28C is too warm for polar bears, but just right for brown bears
14:49:03 <smooge> ok I see we are just going to this
14:49:04 <cverna> bowlofeggs is an expert in bears
14:49:05 <puiterwijk> bowlofeggs would know
14:49:08 <smooge> #topic Open Floor
14:49:20 <smooge> OK other than bowlofeggs likes bears
14:49:27 <smooge> are there any other topics?
14:49:30 <pingou> do bears like bowlofeggs ?
14:49:56 <queue-tip> if the bowl is big enough
14:50:07 <cverna> I enjoy eating these https://www.germandeli.com/product-images/Haribo-Goldbren-200g-Original-German-Gold-Bears-Gummi-Bears-7oz_main-1.jpg
14:50:34 <aikidouke> beware the sugar-free version
14:51:06 <bowlofeggs> one bear liked me, or at least liked the food i had with me (except the broccoli)
14:52:23 <nirik> good taste from the bear
14:53:19 <bowlofeggs> he also drank all the rum i had
14:53:23 <bowlofeggs> or maybe it was whiskey
14:53:24 <bowlofeggs> can't remember
14:53:43 <sayan> bowlofeggs: maybe rum and brocolli does not go well? and the bear knew it
14:54:10 <smooge> OK I think we are done here. Thank you for coming to this meal meeting. Next week. Do snakes like bowlofeggs
14:54:17 <smooge> #endmeeting