14:02:24 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2018-08-02)
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14:02:25 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
14:02:25 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
14:02:25 <nirik> #topic aloha
14:02:25 <nirik> #chair nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge tflink threebean
14:02:25 <zodbot> Current chairs: nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge tflink threebean
14:02:35 <pingou> ó/
14:02:41 <cverna> \o
14:02:44 <smooge> sorry family call came in at the absolute worst moment
14:02:54 <nirik> no worries.
14:03:12 <clime> hi
14:03:13 <puiterwijk> hello
14:03:18 <sapo> o/
14:03:20 <smooge> hello I can take over
14:04:04 <smooge> #topic New folks introductions
14:04:05 <smooge> #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves
14:04:18 <smooge> Are there any new people this week?
14:04:33 <mkonecny> Hi
14:04:58 <cverna> hi mkonecny :)
14:05:53 <smooge> hello what are you looking to work on?
14:06:18 <clime> mkonecny: welcome
14:06:59 <cverna> mkonecny is joining us on the infra team :)
14:07:08 <smooge> cool
14:07:15 <mkonecny> I joined Red Hat yesterday
14:07:23 <smooge> oooh yes. sorry
14:07:24 <pingou> congrats and welcome :)
14:07:33 <puiterwijk> mkonecny: welcome!
14:07:57 * pingou would say that smooge still holds :D
14:08:10 <nirik> welcome mkonecny
14:08:26 <smooge> #topic announcements and information
14:08:26 <smooge> #info smooge is on PTO 2018-08-02->2018-08-07
14:08:26 <smooge> #info tflink is on extended PTO
14:08:26 <smooge> #info many are unavailable during FLOCK
14:08:27 <smooge> #info FLOCK in Dresden is 2018-08-08->2018-08-13?
14:08:28 <smooge> #info visit to PHX2 will be happening 2018-08-15->2018-08-18
14:08:29 <smooge> #info THERE WILL BE NO MEETING NEXT WEEK (2018-08-09)
14:08:30 <smooge> #info IRC spam is horrendous right now.
14:08:49 <smooge> so the great flock caper starts next week
14:09:10 * nirik still needs to write his talk. ;(
14:09:18 <pingou> nirik: you're fine :)
14:09:28 <puiterwijk> nirik: isn't typical flock style to write it the day before?
14:09:31 <smooge> any other announcements?
14:09:42 <puiterwijk> (or so I've been told)
14:09:51 <nirik> llibravatar has been saved. :)
14:09:53 <smooge> either that or use the same one you used every year in the past with updated graphs
14:09:53 <pingou> puiterwijk: the evening before normally :)
14:10:00 <clime> Does it need to be written down_
14:10:00 <puiterwijk> pingou: sounds about right
14:10:09 * pingou wanted to ask clime about a small update on libravatar
14:10:09 <puiterwijk> smooge++
14:10:17 <smooge> #info libabravatar has been saved until it isn't again
14:10:20 <clime> pingou: i am ready
14:10:21 <pingou> should we have a small section?
14:10:39 <nirik> sure, an update on that would be good to share for people not following along closely.
14:10:56 <smooge> ok will make that a topic later
14:10:59 <pingou> tx
14:11:08 <clime> fine
14:11:26 <pingou> I have on my todo to send a pdc status email before the end of the week
14:11:29 <smooge> pingou, any software deployment updates you know of?
14:11:32 <pingou> if you want to discuss this at flock
14:11:57 <pingou> bodhi will remain at 3.8 for flock, we're seeing something odd in stg that we'd like to figure out before pushing to prod
14:12:20 <smooge> understood
14:12:21 <pingou> pagure 5.0 is getting in shape, hopefully the mirroring feature will land by the end of the week as well (thanks puiterwijk !)
14:12:34 <smooge> cool
14:12:39 <pingou> abompard and jcline are working hard on fedora-messaging and have started to prepare a couple of apps
14:12:43 * cverna can't wait for pagure 5.0
14:12:52 <puiterwijk> cverna: sure you can :P
14:12:58 <puiterwijk> jcline: awesome.
14:13:16 <pingou> it is looking really nice
14:13:18 <cverna> puiterwijk: If I have too :P
14:13:25 <pingou> puiterwijk: repospanner update?
14:13:32 <jcline> Speaking of which, it's pretty late, but is there a chance of getting a broker in stage before flock?
14:13:45 <puiterwijk> I'm hoping to actually make a repoSpanner release by teh end of the week, and have been working on deploying it to staging
14:13:46 <jcline> https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/7107 is the RFR
14:13:57 * nirik kept trying to get to that ticket but had 10-20 others pile in front
14:13:57 <puiterwijk> jcline: let's talk post-meeting?
14:14:05 <puiterwijk> jcline: I can see what I can do for you today
14:14:06 <jcline> Yeah sounds good
14:14:10 <smooge> ok next up oncall
14:14:12 * puiterwijk is feeling generous with time today
14:14:17 <smooge> #topic Oncall
14:14:17 <smooge> #info Kevin? is on call from 2018-07-26->2018-08-02
14:14:17 <smooge> #info Puiterwijk is on call from 2018-08-02 ->2018-08-07
14:14:17 <smooge> #info Smooge is on call from 2018-08-07->2018-08-14
14:14:17 <smooge> #info Kevin is on call for 2018-08-15
14:14:18 <smooge> #info Pingou is on call from 2018-08-16->2018-08-23
14:14:18 <nirik> there is a galaxy role we could leverage...
14:14:19 <smooge> #info ??? is on call from 2018-08-23->2018-08-30
14:14:21 <smooge> #info Summary of last week: (from Kevin)
14:14:32 <smooge> puiterwijk, will not be so generous with time after this meeting
14:14:35 <puiterwijk> Right, I'll take oncall from Kevin after the meeting
14:14:41 <puiterwijk> Right.
14:14:45 <smooge> :P
14:14:49 <puiterwijk> nirik: so, anything special happened?
14:14:52 <nirik> It's been pretty normal aside from the spambots...
14:15:02 <puiterwijk> Cool. Yeah, the spam is annoying, but meh.
14:15:25 <cverna> yesterday was pretty bad
14:15:31 <nirik> after the get arrested or go away, we will need to reset a number of channels... or generally require more people to register
14:15:48 <pingou> cverna: today still is in some channels
14:16:08 <puiterwijk> pingou: give them time to wake up
14:16:25 <cverna> time to switch to telegram slack zulip rocket chat mattermost ...
14:16:28 <pingou> puiterwijk: that was for cverna :)
14:16:29 * cverna ducks
14:16:49 <pingou> cverna: google chat, facebook, twitter and jabber? :)
14:16:50 <nirik> I know! lets write our own!
14:16:52 <puiterwijk> pingou: oh yeah, I know. But still, give them time to ramp up for the day :D
14:17:01 <cverna> pingou: :)
14:17:04 <smooge> ok so next week there will be no meeting and the next meeting will be on the 16th. Please figure out at that meeting who is taking the next 2 shifts
14:17:06 <pingou> puiterwijk: it's already pretty bad today in some channels :)
14:17:28 <smooge> well it is an automated robot using a large botnet of compromised systems
14:17:47 <smooge> even if they get arrested I expect it will run by itself for months or years
14:17:59 * pingou a little more depressed
14:18:14 <smooge> welcome to Eternal Autumn in IRC
14:18:25 <smooge> or EFnet as it has been since 1995
14:18:31 <smooge> #topic Libavatar
14:19:02 <clime> it is actually libravatar
14:19:08 <smooge> #undo
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14:19:17 <smooge> #topic libravatar
14:19:28 <smooge> sorry
14:19:49 <clime> so yeah, libravatar will continue to live and prosper hopefully
14:19:56 <smooge> how was it saved?
14:20:04 <clime> https://blog.libravatar.org/
14:20:16 <clime> mainly by interest of many people
14:20:24 <pingou> including you apparently :)
14:20:38 <clime> ye, the author got persuaded to run it a bit longer
14:20:41 <puiterwijk> clime++
14:20:53 <nirik> great work. ;)
14:20:56 <pingou> clime: so the current version keeps running for a while
14:20:57 <nirik> clime++
14:20:57 <zodbot> nirik: Karma for clime changed to 4 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
14:21:02 <clime> thx
14:21:10 <pingou> and then new version takes over? are we the ones hosting the new version?
14:21:15 <clime> ye but only like two months on a temporary VM
14:21:25 <clime> we might be
14:21:38 <clime> the new version is https://git.linux-kernel.at/oliver/ivatar
14:21:45 <clime> it would be nice if it was us.
14:22:20 <clime> lots of people are involved now so it's not that straightforward
14:22:33 <clime> libravatar became "hot" :D
14:23:01 <nirik> is the new one still federated?
14:23:08 <nirik> ie, could several of us run them?
14:23:24 <clime> no, the new one is single point only at the moment
14:23:28 <puiterwijk> nirik: well, not many clients actually implemented the client side of that
14:23:38 <puiterwijk> The federation was client-side.
14:23:40 <nirik> ah well.
14:23:52 <puiterwijk> (basically, DNS records on the email domain, iirc)
14:24:19 <clime> I've opened https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/7140 if anyone is interested in sponsoring
14:24:47 <nirik> well, should we find out if we are going to be the ones to run it first?
14:24:56 <nirik> or you wanted to have something ready in case we are?
14:25:38 <clime> well, with a prepared platform, we would be the one very likely
14:25:48 <puiterwijk> It looked like several full-time hosting companies were offering to host
14:25:50 <puiterwijk> ?
14:26:13 <clime> yes, it became a little bit of competition now
14:26:21 <smooge> ok next up?
14:27:20 <smooge> pingou, did you want a topic for PDC?
14:29:52 <smooge> #topic Tickets discussion
14:29:52 <smooge> #info https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/report/Meetings%20ticket
14:30:06 <nirik> any tickets anyone wants to discuss?
14:30:14 <nirik> we are still under 100, but it's not been easy
14:30:26 <pingou> smooge: no I'll send an email
14:31:53 <smooge> .ticket 6579
14:32:03 <zodbot> smooge: Issue #6579: Fedora Hosted Survey Software - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/6579
14:32:25 <smooge> I am grabbing that one as I was thinking this may be a close one
14:32:35 <puiterwijk> Oh, that one. Heh. Yeah
14:32:41 * nirik looks
14:35:06 <smooge> so I don't see us having the people resources to do this anytime soon and keeping it open seems to be saying 'we can do it soon' versus 'maybe someday in the far future'
14:35:57 <nirik> yeah, without it packaged or at least a good openshift deployment for it...
14:36:59 <smooge> I can close it after the meeting with a note on it
14:37:19 <nirik> once we have dev openshift we can have someone play with it there.
14:38:14 <smooge> o
14:38:15 <smooge> k
14:38:51 <smooge> .ticket 5815
14:38:52 <cverna> it could be hosted on infracloud too and not managed by us
14:38:52 <zodbot> smooge: Issue #5815: [fpaste] Please enable expiration in the new modernpaste instance - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5815
14:39:18 <nirik> cverna: true
14:39:29 <nirik> this one I think was tied to the auth one...
14:39:36 <puiterwijk> Yes
14:39:47 <nirik> once it had auth we could make authenticated pastes have a different expire
14:39:47 <puiterwijk> I will get together with Rick at some point to finalize that
14:40:02 <puiterwijk> (probably post-Flock at this point)
14:40:10 <nirik> might make this one blocked by that other one?
14:40:19 <puiterwijk> yep
14:40:43 <smooge> ok that was it on tickets which caught my eye
14:40:56 <puiterwijk> .ticket 1
14:41:01 <zodbot> puiterwijk: Issue #1: This is a bug - fedora-infrastructure - Pagure - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/1
14:41:03 <puiterwijk> Hah!
14:41:08 <puiterwijk> Sorry
14:41:58 <smooge> cverna, I agree on limesurvey should be maintained by someone else in infracloud. I worked with a GSOC student to package it up years ago and it was a pain in the but
14:43:47 <cverna> smooge: then I guess we can add this possibility in the ticket
14:45:08 <smooge> will do so
14:46:03 <smooge> #topic Apprentice Open office minutes
14:46:03 <smooge> #info A time where apprentices may ask for help or look at problems.
14:46:20 <smooge> Are there any infrastructure tickets that apprentices want to talk about?
14:49:13 <smooge> #topic Open Floor
14:49:38 <smooge> #info REMINDER NO MEETING NEXT WEEK
14:49:48 <smooge> #info Next Meeting 2018-08-16
14:49:58 <smooge> Thank you all for coming this week
14:50:05 <clime> smooge: thanks
14:50:10 <smooge> #endmeeting