19:02:00 #startmeeting F29 Beta Readiness Meeting 19:02:00 Meeting started Thu Sep 13 19:02:00 2018 UTC. 19:02:00 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 19:02:00 The chair is bcotton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:02:00 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:02:00 The meeting name has been set to 'f29_beta_readiness_meeting' 19:02:02 #meetingname f29-beta-readiness-meeting 19:02:02 The meeting name has been set to 'f29-beta-readiness-meeting' 19:02:10 #topic Roll Call 19:02:12 .hello psabata 19:02:13 contyk: psabata 'Petr Šabata' 19:02:14 .hello mohanboddu 19:02:15 mboddu: mohanboddu 'Mohan Boddu' 19:02:21 .hello2 19:02:22 x3mboy: x3mboy 'Eduard Lucena' 19:02:22 .hello2 19:02:23 .hello2 19:02:24 lruzicka3: Sorry, but you don't exist 19:02:27 bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' 19:02:29 .hello2 19:02:31 bowlofeggs: bowlofeggs 'Randy Barlow' 19:02:31 .hello lruzicka 19:02:34 lruzicka3: lruzicka 'Lukáš Růžička' 19:02:43 morning again. 19:02:47 hello 19:02:56 Afternoon here! 19:02:58 o/ 19:03:01 night here :) 19:03:05 .hello adamwill 19:03:09 adamw: adamwill 'Adam Williamson' 19:03:11 * bowlofeggs passes nirik a coffee, then another coffee 19:03:25 * adamw pours a coffee into his coffee so he can coffee while he coffees 19:03:30 yo dawg 19:03:33 haha 19:03:33 =) 19:04:03 i'll give everyone another minute to file in and i'll use that time to go refill my water bottle 19:04:13 ...with whiskey? 19:04:30 (alcohol and calculus don't mix. don't drink and derive.) 19:04:37 :%s/water bottle/coffee mug/g 19:04:56 bowlofeggs: you know me too well 19:05:07 okay, let's get this party started 19:05:25 #info Before each public release all of the groups participating the development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release is well-coordinated. 19:05:27 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings 19:05:36 i guess i could have done that earlier, but we all know why we're here 19:05:44 #topic Current status 19:05:46 #info Fedora 29 Beta is NO-GO 19:05:47 i don't know my purpose in this world! 19:05:47 #info The next Go/No-Go meeting is planned on Thursday, September 20. The Beta moves from Target date to Rain date, which is 2018-09-25 19:06:02 bowlofeggs: Its for bodhi :P 19:06:07 haha 19:06:20 not much to say about this. we're just moving the goalposts a bit 19:06:39 shall we do a #info for Phoronix readers? :P 19:06:43 #info we will NOT repeat this meeting after the next go/no-go meeting 19:06:50 haha 19:06:56 adamw: hahaha :D 19:07:04 * adamw hands out "THIS IS NOT A SLIP" t-shirts 19:07:16 so let's go around the room and check in with the teams status. please remember to #info and #link copiously 19:07:20 #topic Ambassadors 19:07:28 * lruzicka3 does not wear slippers. 19:07:37 adamw: i'll take 2! 19:07:43 adamw: we should get those made. ;) 19:08:00 anyone from the Ambassaors team here? 19:08:58 x3mboy? 19:09:28 Yes, I'm an Ambassador, but I'm kind of disconnected 19:10:03 #info not present 19:10:11 okay, we'll move on to the next then 19:10:12 I would like to be one, but I am not yet. 19:10:28 #topic Cloud WG 19:10:46 any cloud folks around? 19:11:01 * mboddu goes and gets some tea in the mean time 19:11:48 dustymabe: ^^ 19:12:31 * mboddu is back 19:12:48 #info not present 19:12:59 #topic Design 19:13:48 mizmo, mizmo[m] are you around? 19:15:02 bcotton, i am 19:15:03 sup 19:15:28 mizmo: going around the table for F29 beta release readiness and it's design's turn. how are you fine folks? 19:15:52 bcotton, wrt the wallpaper i think we are locked and loaded. we've only gotten positive feedback on the wallpaper which is always a good sign 19:15:59 bcotton, wrt the website o_O i am a bit worried. 19:16:39 yeah, I haven't heard from robyduck 19:16:41 i have website as a separate item further down the agenda, but do you want to elaborate on that now? 19:16:58 bcotton, i had been working on some preliminary redesign stuff for the website but its a big change, i dont know that we have any of the implementation completed, and it's not 100% clear to me if the changes are now needed for f29. i think some of the changes that were planned are pushed back now from f29 19:17:19 mizmo: yeah, I think all the big stuff you are working on is f30 target 19:17:26 i think the iot spin is still going to need a website for f29 tho but i'm not sure 19:17:34 there may be some small important items for f29 19:17:37 mattdm, oh ok phew 19:17:50 mattdm, the iot one is the main one i can think of that might still apply? if there's others let me know 19:17:58 although i need some dev help if robyduck is unavailable :( 19:18:02 iot is what i was thinking too 19:18:16 yeah I'll look for dev help too 19:18:19 i dont know about coreos either 19:18:26 * nirik hopes robbyduck is ok 19:18:28 or silverblue 19:18:43 coreos is definitely f30-ish 19:18:50 nirik: he's okay, just job stuff. 19:18:52 kk 19:19:35 cool. 19:20:31 mattdm: do you think we need to seek out help for getting the f29 work done then? 19:21:08 bcotton: probably. #helpwanted, I guess? 19:21:22 also for F30 hehe 19:21:26 website redo 19:21:29 okay, i'll put that in when i #topic websites 19:21:46 bcotton thanks 19:21:48 mizmo: anything else for F29 beta from the design side? 19:23:31 #info Wallpaper feedback is universally positive 19:23:58 now if only KDE... 19:24:11 la la la i can't hear you, contyk 19:24:29 #topic Desktop 19:24:35 KD...whuts that? 19:24:51 anyone here want to speak on behalf of the desktop team? 19:25:22 looks like kalev-afk is afk :) 19:25:31 what gives you that idea? 19:26:30 #info not present 19:26:40 #topic Documentation 19:26:45 we might have asamalik 19:27:10 ah we might 19:27:23 asamalik p/ 19:27:29 o/* 19:27:31 that's pbokoc and I 19:27:59 I can't see pbokoc here — he owns the content side 19:28:18 I'm mostly here to make sure we publish whatever we have at the right time :) 19:29:33 * x3mboy thinks that the new design is awesome, hopefully content will be ready on time 19:29:51 #info Release Notes need to be written (not necessarily for beta) 19:29:59 #link https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/release-notes/issues?status=Open&search_pattern=F29 19:30:20 I know he has a couple of tracking issues for the content 19:30:24 ! 19:30:28 bcotton: that, thanks 19:30:45 okay, moving on 19:30:50 #topic Fedora Project Leader 19:31:47 mattdm: are you excited? 19:32:43 bcotton: about the ON TIME SELECTION OF TARGET #1? 19:32:44 yes. 19:32:47 yes i am. 19:32:52 haha 19:33:06 #info mattdm is ready for target #1 19:33:44 #topic FESCo 19:33:48 I think the only outstanding issue is the status of the Silverblue change 19:33:51 .fesco 1989 19:33:53 contyk: Issue #1989: Decide status of "Rename Atomic Workstation to Silverblue" change - fesco - Pagure - https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1989 19:33:56 i declare 1/9 of fesco (me) ready 19:34:21 * nirik ditto 19:34:23 * dustymabe wakes up from meetings 19:34:27 2/9ths? 19:34:33 3 19:34:40 cmurf: i'm "around" 19:34:45 but yeah that silverblue one is concerning 19:34:51 especially since we can't get responses about it 19:34:55 cmurf: please feel free to ping jdoss WRT cloud* stuff as well 19:34:56 I think just the anaconda and websites stuff is still outstanding on silverblue. 19:35:02 dustymabe: we can swing back around to the Cloud WG momentarily if you have a status update you'd like to give 19:35:33 #info Portions of the "Rename Atomic Workstation to Silverblue" change are outstanding 19:35:54 I think the only thing that is not done is branding in Anaconda 19:36:08 * jdoss is around as well for any Cloud WG stuff 19:36:21 jdoss: ack 19:36:24 But Silverblue is not a blocking artifact 19:36:49 anything else from FESCo? 19:37:09 mboddu: yes, but the changes do affect blocking artifacts 19:37:12 like anaconda 19:37:17 * mboddu is not FESCo, but just jumped in 19:37:37 bcotton: nope, I think we're good, or at least this 1/9th is 19:37:51 3/9 says +1 so g2g ☺ 19:37:53 IMHO if "rebranding Silverblue" in anaconda doesn't make it, it's not a huge deal 19:37:54 0.333333333 19:37:59 it rounds up 19:37:59 it's mostly cosmetic 19:38:09 #topic Cloud WG (part 2) 19:38:23 dustymabe, jdoss, anything you want to share? 19:39:06 bcotton: not in particular, I don't know of any issues right now. will check 1.2 when it's done 19:39:26 jdoss: you want to give 1.2 a run through when it's ready? 19:39:42 bowlofeggs: Ah okay, but if we decide not to change anything in anaconda now, then we should be fine for the release (except for wrong rebranding) 19:40:02 Yea I can no problem just LMK 19:40:16 #info no known issues 19:40:20 Nothing in the Cloud WG should block F29 right now. 19:40:24 anything else, cloud friends? 19:40:59 The cloud updates are something I am still working on but it's an internal change and it doesn't impact F29. Still chipping away at my POC for the updates. 19:41:05 that is about it. 19:41:18 bcotton++ 19:41:19 dustymabe: Karma for bcotton changed to 8 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 19:41:21 #info Cloud updates change is still in progress, but won't block 19:41:36 okay, so i'll move us on to the next 19:41:42 #topic Infrastructure 19:41:44 Thanks bcotton 19:42:18 #info bodhi is ready 19:42:31 bowlofeggs++ 19:42:31 bcotton: Karma for bowlofeggs changed to 16 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 19:43:12 anything else on the infra side? 19:43:12 infra should be all ready. no issues I am aware of 19:43:28 excellent! 19:43:41 #topic Marketing 19:43:48 x3mboy 19:44:06 From marketing we are waiting for the TPs 19:44:25 Remember we use TPs to the Beta Release Announcenment 19:44:45 Also, the GA Release Announcenment from mattdm should be helpedwith this a little bit 19:44:49 And we have nothing there 19:44:57 * bcotton can't remember yesterday's meeting. does someone own the talking points? 19:44:58 For everything else we are good 19:45:07 Yes, bt0 19:45:37 But the idea is each team help with their own opinion on what's new and awesome in each release 19:45:41 #info bt0 owns the talking points that will be used to create the release announcement 19:45:48 x3mboy: yes I definitely appreciate help :) 19:46:01 #help teams should work with bt0 to provide relevant talking points for their areas 19:46:11 e.g.: last edition atomic team did a great work with the TPs 19:46:21 We did almost nothing 19:46:28 Just serve as a bridge 19:46:53 * x3mboy sighs remembering KDE and 3 releases without TPs from them 19:47:12 x3mboy anything else from marketing? 19:47:15 Nope 19:47:21 great, thanks! 19:47:33 #topic QA 19:47:41 * x3mboy needs to run. 19:47:44 Bye guys 19:47:49 bye, x3mboy 19:48:18 adamw or anyone else want to give a QA update? 19:48:37 sorry 19:48:40 i'm debugging stuff 19:48:42 uh, ok 19:49:00 #info RC1 validation testing is fairly complete, there has been no testing of RC2 yet as it is not done yet 19:49:36 #info we would very much like to have a bit more time to do more exploratory testing of DNF and GNOME and look into some of the outstanding blocker/FE bugs 19:49:46 that's what we'll be doing this week 19:50:22 * nirik notes there's an update now fixing the kde background thing (well, needs testing that it does, but it should) 19:50:30 nirik++ 19:50:31 bcotton: Karma for kevin changed to 32 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 19:51:04 anything else from QA or should we let adamw get back to work? 19:51:16 that's all i've got really? 19:51:19 any questions? 19:52:22 sounds like a "no", thanks, adamw 19:52:29 #topic Release Engineering 19:52:36 mboddu, you're up 19:52:51 bcotton: Oh, sorry, working on something else 19:53:34 Other than not having a completed RC2 compose, RelEng is all ready for the release 19:54:01 is RC2 happily chugging along? 19:54:59 bcotton: Yes, its going fine (and slow) :) 19:55:05 excellent 19:55:15 #info RC2 is composing. RelEng stands ready 19:55:25 okay, i'll move on to the next team then 19:56:04 #topic Server WG 19:56:38 anyone here from Server? 19:56:59 sgallagh? 19:58:02 Hmm? 19:58:27 I'm not aware of any issues with Server. It's mostly uneventful this cycle. 19:58:36 #info Server is mostly uneventful 19:58:41 that's the way we like it 19:59:13 #topic Spins 19:59:21 anyone from Spins want to chime in? 20:00:17 I tested the Xfce rc1 and it was fine here. ;) 20:00:35 #info Xfce rc1 is fine 20:00:37 anything else? 20:01:53 nope! 20:02:07 #topic Translations 20:02:48 anyone from the translations team? 20:03:44 guess not. last one on my list... 20:03:49 #info not present 20:04:04 #topic Websites 20:04:06 #help Developer help needed to finalize tasks for website. Contact mizmo for details 20:04:41 #link https://twitter.com/mairin/statuses/1040320933582581763 20:04:55 anything else on the websites? 20:05:55 sounds like a no 20:05:56 #topic Open floor 20:06:11 any teams that i didn't explicitly call on that want to be called on? 20:06:48 hmmm 20:07:15 nope 20:07:29 I guess not 20:07:38 any general comments, questions, or snarky remarks about F29 Beta release readiness? 20:07:42 I was thinking about modularity wg but there isn't anything specific for beta 20:08:02 contyk: good idea, though. i'll put them on my list for final 20:09:23 last call! 20:10:06 okay, thanks everyone! reminder there will not be a repeat of this meeting. the next Go/No-Go meeting will be next week 20:10:12 #endmeeting