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16:00:14 <geppetto> #topic Roll Call
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16:00:21 <mhroncok> hey
16:00:27 <geppetto> #chair mhroncok
16:00:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto mhroncok
16:00:31 <geppetto> #chair ignatenkobrain
16:00:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto ignatenkobrain mhroncok
16:01:11 <decathorpe> hi everybody
16:01:17 <geppetto> #chair decathorpe
16:01:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto ignatenkobrain mhroncok
16:03:20 <tibbs> Hey, folks
16:03:33 <tibbs> I'm in a physical meeting right now as well.
16:03:44 <geppetto> #chair tibbs
16:03:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto ignatenkobrain mhroncok tibbs
16:03:46 * geppetto nods
16:04:14 <geppetto> As I said in f-d … not much on the schedule anyway
16:04:53 <redi> hello - sorry I'm late
16:05:03 <geppetto> #chair redi
16:05:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto ignatenkobrain mhroncok redi tibbs
16:05:05 <geppetto> no problem
16:05:11 <redi> I have something quick - what is this page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Committee/ja ?
16:05:41 <redi> if it's just junk, should it be removed, or at least removed from the FPC category?
16:06:16 <ignatenkobrain> .hello2
16:06:17 <zodbot> ignatenkobrain: ignatenkobrain 'Igor Gnatenko' <i.gnatenko.brain@gmail.com>
16:06:36 <decathorpe> https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packaging/Committee/ja&action=history
16:06:42 <tibbs> There have been sporadic attempts to translte various pages.
16:06:49 <decathorpe> looks like somebody wanted to make a japanese version and gave up
16:06:51 <redi> oh it's a translation
16:07:20 <redi> (a very incomplete one)
16:07:34 <geppetto> redi: Looks like an old copy of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging_Committee … maybe someone accidentally typed into the titlebar on save or something?
16:07:45 <geppetto> ahh
16:07:52 <redi> gepetto: that's what I thought at first too
16:08:08 <redi> should we remove it then? it's not been kept in sync with the proper one, and isn't in Japanese anyway
16:08:34 <mhroncok> I'de remove it
16:08:44 <redi> it would be fairly harmless, but it's listed under https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Packaging_committee
16:08:47 <decathorpe> yep
16:08:58 <redi> ok I'll nuke it
16:09:04 <tibbs> Agreed.
16:09:08 <geppetto> #topic Schedule
16:09:10 <geppetto> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/TCDBEO25XN5P3EX66REKMSWC3DPBP47H/
16:09:50 <geppetto> Any updates on 719?
16:10:05 <tibbs> It's progressing.
16:10:10 <geppetto> #topic #719 Simplify packaging of forge-hosted projects
16:10:14 * geppetto nods
16:10:17 <geppetto> Fair enough
16:10:19 <tibbs> Some stuff has been merged, more is on the way.
16:10:34 <tibbs> ignatenkobrain and I need to look at the latest PR.
16:10:54 <decathorpe> a new version of the macros landed in rawhide, and broke 20 of my packages :D
16:11:29 <tibbs> He said it would ned coordination,
16:12:00 <tibbs> But that cordination is with some other mcro packge that I don;t see, so I had assumed the coordination was happening.
16:12:02 <geppetto> decathorpe: was that a golang heavy change … or were a bunch of people affected?
16:12:21 <decathorpe> yeah, but that coordination didn't work out, since AFAICT the changes to redhat-rpm-config were pushed to rawhide accidentally with an unrelated change.
16:12:26 <tibbs> I elieve it was just go.
16:12:48 <decathorpe> no. it was forge macros in general, but not many packages used the %tag macro anyway
16:13:41 <redi> looks like I don't have privs to delete pages from the wiki, I can't see any "delete" option anywhere
16:13:59 <mhroncok> redi: AFAIK you need to replace the text with empty
16:14:06 <redi> ok
16:14:30 <decathorpe> from looking at the changes and from what nim said about it, it affects packages which use %tag where the tag starts with a "v", as is the case for many golang packages (e.g. "v1.0.0")
16:14:34 <geppetto> #topic Open Floor
16:15:15 <decathorpe> did somebody have time to look at my first draft of a reworked RPMMacros page?
16:15:32 <tibbs> I can delete the page if it really needs to get deleted.
16:15:48 <tibbs> I can look at it once this terrible meeting is done.
16:16:24 <geppetto> decathorpe: I don't think so … you have a link?
16:16:35 <mhroncok> decathorpe: I've read the render
16:16:35 <mhroncok> decathorpe: not the diff
16:16:35 <mhroncok> decathorpe: and the content looks resonable to me
16:16:35 <mhroncok> I ahven't verieief all listed macros
16:16:55 <decathorpe> just a sec
16:17:13 <tibbs> Yes, I did a quick look and it's certainly better.
16:17:24 <decathorpe> diff: https://pagure.io/fork/decathorpe/packaging-committee/c/b744d9c29899006f2dc32c10eba5731a7276a323?branch=rpmmacros
16:17:36 <decathorpe> render (not antora): https://decathorpe.fedorapeople.org/Packaging:RPMMacros
16:19:06 <geppetto> decathorpe: looks good
16:19:41 <redi> looks great
16:19:44 <decathorpe> I didn't really know where to start, but I wanted to at least make it more useful than the current version ...
16:20:42 <mhroncok> decathorpe: you did well ;)
16:20:55 <redi> much better explanations
16:21:34 <decathorpe> digging through /usr/lib/rpm/macros, /usr/lib/rpm/platform/, and /usr/lib/rpm/macros.d/* was fun ...
16:26:43 <mhroncok> tiem to end?
16:26:45 <mhroncok> *time
16:27:06 <decathorpe> I guess so
16:28:34 <geppetto> Yeh
16:28:38 <redi> ok
16:28:46 <geppetto> #endmeeting