05:00:06 #startmeeting fedora_coreos_apac_meeting 05:00:06 Meeting started Tue Nov 27 05:00:06 2018 UTC. 05:00:06 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 05:00:06 The chair is ksinny. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 05:00:06 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 05:00:06 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_coreos_apac_meeting' 05:00:19 #topic roll call 05:00:25 .hello sinnykumari 05:00:26 ksinny: sinnykumari 'Sinny Kumari' 05:00:40 .hello2 05:00:41 bhavin192: bhavin192 'Bhavin Gandhi' 05:00:49 o/ 05:01:21 ksinny, good morning 05:01:24 .hello 05:01:24 csirac2: (hello ) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1". 05:01:36 bhavin192: good morning :) 05:02:14 csirac2: you can use something like .hello 05:02:31 #chair bhavin192 csirac2 05:02:31 Current chairs: bhavin192 csirac2 ksinny 05:02:49 .hello 'Paul Harvey' 05:02:50 csirac2: Sorry, but you don't exist 05:03:07 .hello pharvey 05:03:08 csirac2: Sorry, but you don't exist 05:03:15 D'oh :) I'll fix it up next time. 05:04:00 csirac2: no worries 05:04:32 csirac2: You can create FAS account if you haven't already here https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ 05:04:43 Ok, moving on 05:04:51 #topic Action items from last meeting 05:04:58 1. ksinny to create an editable doc and add link to Fedora CoreOS meeting calendar so that community memebers can mark their availability for next meeting 1 day in advance. Accordingly, we will decide whether we will have nex meeting or not. 05:05:13 #info Email sent to Fedora coreos ML https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/coreos@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/HVCJ7JWMSQCE3HS3SDOM5BB5WCTFDWWX/ 05:06:28 We discussed in last meeting that we will come up with some form of doc where coreos community memebers can add their name before meeting. 05:07:00 ksinny, sounds good, just saw the email, I think I missed it somehow before 05:07:23 #info created etherpad https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/Fedora_CoreOS_APAC_meeting where we can add our name in advance to help us decide whether we want to schedule next coreos APAC meting or cacnel it 05:08:30 considering less people attending APAC meeting, I will appriciate if we follow this for few weeks until we have enough memebers available during meeting 05:09:28 From next meeting, it will be nice if we can follow the etherpad and decide schduling next meeting accordingly 05:09:33 does it sound good? 05:09:57 Yep 05:10:06 * csirac2 nods 05:10:21 cool, thanks to both of you :) 05:10:32 Okay, lets move to next topic 05:10:48 #topic Major release and update cycle for Fedora CoreOS 05:10:55 #link https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/22 05:11:41 This is an important ticket about how Fedora CoreOS release will look like 05:12:01 See comment https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/22#issuecomment-427218716 for final agreed proposal 05:13:01 A bit of background, Fedora CoreOS uses OSTree and hence we will have various refs for Fedora CoreOS repo 05:13:07 refs are like git bracnhes 05:13:21 For production level, we will have three refs: 05:14:36 1. tetsing - This tracks current Fedora release packages along with periodic snapshot of updates packages 05:16:28 e.g. If Fedora 30 is curent stable release, so this ref will track Fedora 30 packages along with preioidcally picking up updates pcakges made in Fedora 30 05:17:31 2. stable - We will periodcally prmotes content available in tetsing to stable 05:17:58 This will give enough time to test things and then move it to stable 05:18:39 This will also include applying diretcly some critical fixes if needed 05:18:45 ksinny, so it will be like a ref which always will point to something which is based on a release of Fedora, i.e. the stable ref will not have a version like f30-xx, right? 05:19:48 bhavin192: ref will be unversioned which means ref name will not contain Fedora release in its name 05:20:11 content inside this ref will be always latest Fedora release available 05:20:18 .hello sayanchowdhury 05:20:19 sayan: sayanchowdhury 'Sayan Chowdhury' 05:20:26 sorry for being late 05:20:31 ksinny, right, got it. 05:20:39 so, initially when Fedora 30 is alatest released then it will have Fedora 30 content, when Fedora 31 will release the it will have Fedora 31 contet 05:20:51 lost track of time reading the emails. I should setup a calendar event for this meeting. 05:21:01 sayan, o/ 05:21:02 #chair sayan 05:21:02 Current chairs: bhavin192 csirac2 ksinny sayan 05:21:44 ksinny, and user don't have to worry about the version of Fedora in the ref, they just have to update to that ref 05:22:31 bhavin192: yes, user will just always do someting like "rpm-ostree upgrade" and then should get latest stable content 05:22:58 They won't have to rebase to a new ref when a new Fedora release happen, unlike we currently do in Fedora Atomic Host 05:24:13 3. next - This will point to testing ref until we have bodhi activated for next upcoming release 05:24:26 A bit confusing, let me explaing through example 05:25:10 suppose current Fedora release is 30, and next upcoming rlease is Fedora 31 05:25:41 Once Fedora 30 is released, we don't have Fedora 31 branched very soon 05:25:55 it takes some time, until then there is only Fedora 30 and rawhide 05:27:01 so, during the time when f31 is not branched and bodhi has not been activated for f31 baranch, we will tarck testing ref in next as well 05:27:55 once, f31 is branched and bodhi has been activated, next ref will contain content from upcoming f31 so that user can test locally and see how upcoming fcos based on f31 content looks like 05:28:06 figure out issues and fixes in advance 05:28:13 does thse makes sense? 05:28:35 ksinny, yep, as we have short release cycle that would require I guess 05:28:47 ok 05:28:54 Let's move to open floor 05:28:59 #Open floor 05:29:07 #topic Open Floor 05:29:17 sorry, we are almost out of time 05:29:27 Please speak if you have something to say :) 05:29:54 * ksinny will most likely continue Release cycle topic in next week, it's not totally ginshed 05:30:03 finshed* 05:30:21 ksinny++ great! 05:30:21 bhavin192: Karma for sinnykumari changed to 5 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 05:30:21 ok, clsoing the meeting 05:30:25 #endmeeting