17:04:52 <geppetto> #startmeeting fpc
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17:04:53 <geppetto> #meetingname fpc
17:04:53 <geppetto> #topic Roll Call
17:04:53 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fpc'
17:04:59 <mhroncok> hey
17:05:03 <geppetto> #chair mhroncok
17:05:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto mhroncok
17:05:04 <ignatenkobrain> .hello2
17:05:05 <zodbot> ignatenkobrain: ignatenkobrain 'Igor Gnatenko' <i.gnatenko.brain@gmail.com>
17:05:09 <geppetto> #chair ignatenkobrain
17:05:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: geppetto ignatenkobrain mhroncok
17:05:16 <geppetto> hey
17:05:18 * decathorpe was already here
17:05:46 <geppetto> #chair decathorpe
17:05:46 <zodbot> Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto ignatenkobrain mhroncok
17:05:49 <decathorpe> hi everybody
17:06:35 <ignatenkobrain> tibbs: limburgher ?
17:06:57 * limburgher is here but doing 5 things.
17:07:02 <limburgher> :)
17:07:10 <geppetto> Well, 6 now :)
17:07:13 <geppetto> #chair limburgher
17:07:13 <zodbot> Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto ignatenkobrain limburgher mhroncok
17:08:02 <redi> hi
17:08:16 <mhroncok> #chair redi
17:08:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto ignatenkobrain limburgher mhroncok redi
17:08:24 <geppetto> hey
17:10:20 * decathorpe is moving from phone to laptop
17:11:05 <ignatenkobrain> geppetto: do you have agenda somewhere around?
17:11:23 <geppetto> Not for today … there are two open tickets, neither of which have changed recently.
17:11:32 <geppetto> https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issues?status=Open&tags=meeting
17:11:54 <decathorpe> well, there's the forge stuff
17:12:21 <geppetto> #topic #719 Simplify packaging of forge-hosted projects
17:12:25 <geppetto> .fpc 719
17:12:27 <zodbot> geppetto: Issue #719: Simplify packaging of forge-hosted projects - packaging-committee - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/719
17:12:44 <ignatenkobrain> There's associated PR
17:12:57 <geppetto> Latest PR is:
17:12:58 <geppetto> https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/826
17:13:15 <decathorpe> I commented on the ticket, that I'd like to have at least an "executive summary" in  textual form, and not only embedded example templates
17:13:31 <geppetto> And one for rpm-config:  https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/redhat-rpm-config/pull-request/47
17:13:34 <decathorpe> looks like can't (or won't) do that, so I'll write one myself.
17:14:07 <redi> yeah it didn't sound likely that num would produce that
17:14:49 <decathorpe> honestly, I'd just take the PR as-is, and submit my "executive summary" separately, since I don't want to block on this even longer
17:14:56 <redi> s/num/nim/
17:15:01 <redi> makes sense
17:15:06 <ignatenkobrain> yeah, I was hoping for the best, but he didn't wrote actually guidelines =(
17:15:41 <limburgher> You can lead a horse to water. . .
17:15:53 * decathorpe shrugs
17:16:09 <decathorpe> we can take it as a starting point. arguably, this is the best proposal we've ever had
17:16:48 <ignatenkobrain> PROPOSAL: fix trivial things (like remove link to bugreport from template and fix style) and merge. Write actual guidelines later on.
17:17:12 <mhroncok> who?
17:17:36 <decathorpe> I volunteer (at least for a MVP version)
17:18:06 <ignatenkobrain> mhroncok: you mean who will do that? I will take it
17:18:39 <mhroncok> sounds good to me
17:18:51 <decathorpe> who will do what?
17:19:21 <mhroncok> Write actual guidelines
17:19:27 <ignatenkobrain> I will fix PR and merge it. Somebody later on should write guidelines.... I suppose that can be decathorpe
17:19:47 <geppetto> #info decathorpe will write "executive summary" in textual form
17:20:01 <geppetto> #undo
17:20:01 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: INFO by geppetto at 17:19:47 : decathorpe will write "executive summary" in textual form
17:20:04 <geppetto> #action decathorpe will write "executive summary" in textual form
17:21:03 <decathorpe> should we move all the "include"d templates to a separate file so SourceURL doesn't get blown up with non-guideline content?
17:21:59 <decathorpe> but I guess I can do that as part of my guidelines / improvement PR
17:22:53 <geppetto> sounds good
17:23:17 <decathorpe> so ... are we +1 on the PR?
17:23:32 <ignatenkobrain> It needs some fixes, but yes
17:23:47 <limburgher> Yeah.
17:23:48 <decathorpe> yeah. sembr would be nice
17:24:14 <ignatenkobrain> Not only sembr, but some trivial fixes in templates. But I will fix all that
17:24:20 <decathorpe> +1
17:24:57 <geppetto> +1
17:25:38 <limburgher> +1
17:26:07 <mhroncok> +1
17:26:39 <redi> +1
17:27:50 <geppetto> ignatenkobrain: vote?
17:28:12 <ignatenkobrain> +1, I thought that it was obvious ;)
17:28:29 <geppetto> #action fix trivial things and merge (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0)
17:28:41 <geppetto> ignatenkobrain: I almost assumed it … but figured it was better to be explicit :)
17:28:54 <geppetto> #topic Open Floor
17:29:24 <geppetto> Ok, so I'm going to guess we won't meet next week, or the week after
17:30:19 <geppetto> I'll try for the week after that (3rd of Jan) … but I won't be shocked if we don't have 5.
17:30:19 <decathorpe> I'm fine with that ;)
17:30:27 <mhroncok> works for me
17:30:54 <limburgher> :thumbsup"
17:31:00 <limburgher> Wow, terrible emoji. . .
17:31:05 <ignatenkobrain> +
17:31:08 <redi> I definitely can't meet until January now
17:31:10 <ignatenkobrain> +1
17:31:24 <redi> I'm going to try (and fail) to stay offline
17:31:29 <mhroncok> :D
17:31:45 <mhroncok> I have a PTO form the 18th but I'll probably fail as well
17:31:56 <mhroncok> *from
17:31:59 <ignatenkobrain> I have few things which you might be interested in (just FYIs)
17:32:05 <ignatenkobrain> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/EnablingPythonGeneratorsByDefault
17:32:09 <ignatenkobrain> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/RemoveObsoleteScriptlets
17:32:16 <ignatenkobrain> the latter one might be interesting for geppetto ; )
17:32:24 <geppetto> :)
17:32:38 <mhroncok> for the generators: I've changed the scope a bit
17:33:00 <mhroncok> the guidelines already talk about how to disbale this, please make sure to consult them before implementing it
17:33:01 <geppetto> ignatenkobrain: that's cool
17:33:29 <decathorpe> \o/
17:33:47 <mhroncok> also, for the scriptles, listing them explicitly would be nice
17:34:12 <mhroncok> a.k.a without the tc. part
17:34:17 <mhroncok> etc. part
17:38:29 <decathorpe> is there anything else?
17:38:40 <geppetto> Not unless anyone has anything.
17:38:51 <geppetto> If nobody speaks up I'll close in a couple of minutes.
17:40:05 <geppetto> #endmeeting