13:00:13 <cverna> #startmeeting Container SIG
13:00:13 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Jan 14 13:00:13 2019 UTC.
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13:00:37 <cverna> Hello everyone, this is the first meeting of the year :)
13:01:06 <bhavin192> .hello2
13:01:07 <zodbot> bhavin192: bhavin192 'Bhavin Gandhi' <bhavin7392@gmail.com>
13:01:50 <kalev> 3
13:02:15 <lorbus[m]> .hello lorbus
13:02:18 <zodbot> lorbus[m]: lorbus 'Christian Glombek' <cglombek@redhat.com>
13:02:21 <jcajka> .hello jcajka
13:02:22 <zodbot> jcajka: jcajka 'None' <jcajka@redhat.com>
13:02:49 <lorbus[m]> o/ all! =)
13:03:33 <cverna> #chair bhavin192 kalev lorbus[m] jcajka
13:03:33 <zodbot> Current chairs: bhavin192 cverna jcajka kalev lorbus[m]
13:04:08 <cverna> Ok I am not sure we have anything particular here we can go with some quick updates
13:05:11 * lorbus[m] also has some small updates
13:05:18 <lorbus[m]> cverna, you want to go first?
13:05:28 <cverna> lorbus[m]: you can go first :)
13:05:44 * cverna needs to think about his updates :P
13:05:49 <ttomecek> .hello
13:05:51 <zodbot> ttomecek: (hello <an alias, 1 argument>) -- Alias for "hellomynameis $1".
13:06:04 <cverna> #chair ttomecek
13:06:04 <zodbot> Current chairs: bhavin192 cverna jcajka kalev lorbus[m] ttomecek
13:06:12 <ttomecek> (close enough)
13:06:21 * cverna waves at ttomecek
13:06:51 * jcajka has also some update on the https://pagure.io/ContainerSIG/container-sig/issue/19
13:07:05 <lorbus[m]> There are disussions around new docs for Fedora CoreOS and Silverblue, and the container related tooling & libs. So I'd like to invite everybody who will be at DevConf and/or FOSDEM to join the discussion
13:07:06 <ttomecek> (I'd love to discuss our devconf meetup)
13:07:22 <lorbus[m]> Once there is a formal proposal, I'll send this out asap :)
13:07:29 <cverna> ttomecek: yes we can do that after the quick progress updates
13:07:52 <lorbus[m]> also, I started work on a buildah backend for atomic-reactor
13:07:52 <jcajka> lorbus[m]: looking forward to that :)
13:08:19 <cverna> lorbus[m]: good luck :)
13:08:21 <lorbus[m]> https://github.com/projectatomic/atomic-reactor/pull/1151https://github.com/projectatomic/atomic-reactor/pull/1151
13:09:01 <lorbus[m]> that's it from me
13:09:22 <cverna> jcajka: want to jump in ?
13:09:28 <cverna> thanks lorbus[m]
13:09:31 <jcajka> sure
13:09:44 <jcajka> I have opened fesco ticket as noted https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2049
13:10:24 <jcajka> it seems that bowlofeggs has worked on something in past that would enable us to do "buildrootoverride" for containers
13:10:48 <cverna> yes but we don't know when this gonna be available
13:11:16 <cverna> I don't think this is on his roadmap of important things but I might be wrong
13:11:30 <jcajka> because of that I would like to have the policy changed until we have it
13:11:44 <jcajka> I hope that this will be one of the topic for our meetup in Brno
13:12:00 <jcajka> topics
13:12:19 <cverna> I ll add some comment, to specify that we don't really want feedback on container since we aim to have CI to do that automatically
13:12:29 <jcajka> thanks
13:12:37 <jcajka> that is all from my side then
13:12:47 <cverna> also a broken container is not a big deal, it will not crash someone system
13:13:00 <cverna> jcajka: thanks for starting the discussion
13:13:17 <jcajka> yeah and all packages, kind should be already tested, but this is yet another integration test
13:13:47 <cverna> on my side Aarch64 cluster in prod is still block waiting on networking in datacenter to allow box to talk to each other
13:13:55 <cverna> I hope that will be done this week
13:14:41 <cverna> I will also start looking at building the base image in OSBS
13:14:53 <cverna> using this at the beginning https://pagure.io/osbs-fedora-container-base/tree/master
13:15:18 <cverna> I am not 100% sure how it will work so that will be a trial and error kind of work :)
13:16:48 <lorbus[m]> nice
13:17:44 <cverna> The long term benefit of building the base image in OSBS is that we will be able to automatically rebuild all dependent images when the base image change
13:18:07 <lorbus[m]> where is it built right now?
13:18:30 <ttomecek> that will be very nice; how would you get the rootfs?
13:19:36 <cverna> lorbus[m]: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=26387
13:20:13 <jcajka> IMO only thing blocking it will be, that we don't have yet OSBS cluster on all arches, or will be the "hybrid" situation ok for you until we have all the clusters?
13:20:15 <cverna> ttomecek: OSBS can start a kickstart build and get the rootfs from it
13:20:48 <cverna> jcajka: yes I am thinking to keep the old process for the arches that are not yet in OSBS
13:21:06 <jcajka> cool :)
13:21:07 <cverna> jcajka: the bigger problem for mutli arch being the lack of hardware for now
13:21:14 <ttomecek> ah, okay
13:21:49 <cverna> ttomecek: if you see the Dockerfile is a bit special https://pagure.io/osbs-fedora-container-base/blob/master/f/Dockerfile#_1
13:21:52 <jcajka> cverna: I hope that we will be able to scrape/ask for some, where it will be missing
13:22:11 <cverna> jcajka: yes that might be some good discussion to have during devconf
13:22:29 * jcajka nods
13:22:31 <cverna> Moving to devconf meeting topic ?
13:23:12 <ttomecek> sounds good
13:23:47 <ttomecek> all I really want to discuss is that how do we start collecting topics? do I just create an etherpad?
13:24:23 <cverna> ttomecek: we could use https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ and create a new thread there
13:24:25 <lorbus[m]> sgtm
13:24:33 <cverna> that might be more visible
13:24:47 <lorbus[m]> even better! yes
13:24:47 <ttomecek> oki, I'll start it
13:24:57 <lorbus[m]> ttomecek++
13:25:21 <cverna> How long is the meetup ? 1 hour ?
13:25:48 * cverna should know since his is co speaker :P
13:26:05 <cverna> https://devconfcz2019.sched.com/event/K8nC/fedora-container-sig-meetup
13:26:47 <ttomecek> 2 hours, pfiew
13:27:05 <cverna> so 1 hour 45 min, we could add things we want to hack on, also I ll be happy to talk through our OSBS setup and deployment
13:27:10 <cverna> if people are interested
13:27:25 <cverna> maybe we can add a DevConf tag to the tickets
13:30:23 <jcajka> +1
13:30:54 <ttomecek> do we want to meet before the meetup to polish the schedule?
13:31:05 <cverna> Ok so let's start a thread at https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/ and create some tickets in pagure
13:32:00 * cverna will be in Brno from next Monday, but might be quite busy with his team
13:32:09 <ttomecek> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/devconf-cz-2019-container-sig-meetup/955
13:32:50 <cverna> I think let's give it a few days and we can coordinate on #fedora-containers
13:32:58 <ttomecek> oki, sounds good
13:33:09 <cverna> We can try to arrange a quick in person meeting next week
13:33:24 <ttomecek> I'm okay then discussing the topic
13:33:45 <ttomecek> cverna, yes, we can do that, but it may be tough to find a good slot; we can do a lunch if you want
13:34:35 <cverna> ttomecek: yes that sounds like the best time slot :)
13:34:50 <jcajka> or just meet somewhere, we don't really need a meeting room for this
13:35:43 <cverna> yes we can sort something out
13:38:16 <cverna> ok do we have something else to discuss about ?
13:38:20 <lorbus[m]> anything else? Otherwise I'm off to lunch! :)
13:38:39 <lorbus[m]> looking forward to seeing you all in Brno!
13:39:30 <jcajka> nothing from me
13:39:37 <cverna> lorbus[m]: Bon appetit :) and see you in Brno
13:39:50 <cverna> give it another min before closing the meeting :)
13:40:13 <cverna> jcajka: I added a small comment on the fesco ticket
13:40:14 <lorbus[m]> Thanks! tty soon! :)
13:41:08 <ttomecek> thank you and see you next week!
13:41:25 <jcajka> cverna: thanks, unfortunately we will most probably miss today's fesco meeting, I have replied too slowly :)
13:41:40 <jcajka> see you all next week
13:41:54 <cverna> jcajka: yeah, will have to wait for another week :(
13:42:04 <jcajka> 3mins.... sorry
13:42:09 <cverna> thanks all for coming
13:42:22 <cverna> #endmeeting