16:00:50 #startmeeting fpc 16:00:50 Meeting started Thu Mar 28 16:00:50 2019 UTC. 16:00:50 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:00:50 The chair is geppetto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:50 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:50 The meeting name has been set to 'fpc' 16:00:50 #meetingname fpc 16:00:50 The meeting name has been set to 'fpc' 16:00:50 #topic Roll Call 16:00:56 hey 16:00:57 Hey. 16:01:01 .hello2 16:01:02 #chair mhroncok 16:01:02 Current chairs: geppetto mhroncok 16:01:02 decathorpe: decathorpe 'None' 16:01:04 #chair tibbs 16:01:04 Current chairs: geppetto mhroncok tibbs 16:01:06 #chair decathorpe 16:01:06 Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto mhroncok tibbs 16:01:10 * limburgher here 16:01:13 #chair limburgher 16:01:13 Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto limburgher mhroncok tibbs 16:01:15 decathorpe: hi None 16:01:22 * decathorpe shrugs 16:01:25 :) 16:01:34 .hello2 16:01:34 FAS, go home, you're drung 16:01:35 geppetto: geppetto 'Gep Petto' 16:01:37 * mhroncok doesn't exist anyway 16:01:57 .hello2 16:01:57 mhroncok: Sorry, but you don't exist 16:01:58 lol, very drunk 16:02:12 😁 16:02:23 hi 16:02:26 #chair redi 16:02:26 Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto limburgher mhroncok redi tibbs 16:02:36 .hello2 16:02:38 ignatenkobrain: ignatenkobrain 'Igor Gnatenko' 16:03:26 #chair ignatenkobrain 16:03:26 Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto ignatenkobrain limburgher mhroncok redi tibbs 16:04:33 #topic Schedule 16:04:37 #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/KMUACQ7C2DMS7KIKTNXVWGMNMVQDQF2F/ 16:04:47 #topic #845 Wiki deprecation status 16:04:52 .fpc 845 16:04:53 geppetto: Issue #845: Wiki deprecation status - packaging-committee - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/845 16:05:30 Just an update for this … anyone do any? 16:05:40 IIRC guys who were working on docs.fp.o have some script to automatically change all pages to redirect to docs.fp.o 16:05:44 so that we don't have to change it manually 16:06:10 sounds good … who do we ping about it? 16:06:15 I don't think we'd want it done automatically until we're sure the current documents are actually in good shape, though. 16:06:16 I think it is time to set redirects 16:07:24 All you have to do is review a document for formatting correctness and replace the wiki page with the redirect macro I gave in the ticket. 16:08:12 It's best if you add the last-reviewed bit to the adoc file when you do that so we can easily see what still needs work. 16:10:35 I've put one in Rust.adoc 16:10:49 I saw. (It's easy to grep for, after all). 16:12:00 And I just added the redirect to the wiki page. 16:12:22 I can try to review some pages next week when I feel the need to procrastinate from University work 16:12:48 #action decathorpe Will procrastinate by doing page reviews ;) 16:13:12 * decathorpe approves 16:13:49 +1 16:13:59 Ok, I think we are done for that ticket... 16:14:00 #topic #859 Scriptlet to replace a directory: try delete first? 16:14:04 .fpc 859 16:14:05 geppetto: Issue #859: Scriptlet to replace a directory: try delete first? - packaging-committee - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/859 16:14:27 I don't think there's anything new here. 16:14:42 Macro would be good and I guess should be the first step. 16:14:49 Yeh 16:14:50 Then we can silently improve this. 16:14:55 yes, consistent handling would be nice 16:15:10 There appears to be no chance of RPM handling this properly in the near future. 16:15:33 * geppetto nods 16:15:37 One question not addressed by macro-ization, though, is whether you should %ghost multiple backup directories. 16:15:54 I think that way lies madness 16:16:02 how long should they be kept around? 16:16:45 Hmm. 16:17:13 I don't think there's much reason to deviate from our usual "two live releases" thing. 16:17:21 right 16:18:46 seems fair 16:19:20 Obviously if someone has special needs they can... do something special. 16:19:52 and adding a comment: "added in fedora 30, remove after 32 branch point" would be good 16:20:31 And certainly they can %ghost multiple rpmmoved directories if they're shifting the same thing back and forth from directory to file, though I'd hope that nobody is doing that. 16:23:36 ha 16:23:41 #topic Open Floor 16:23:49 Ok, anything else anybody wants to talk about? 16:24:19 some interesting discusion in the %{_bindir} ticket 16:25:38 https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/848 16:26:05 * mhroncok also sees that there are at least 2 tickets waiting on mhroncok - will try to be better 16:28:58 The discussion in 848 seems to make a difference only if flatpak packages are allowed to BR other flatpacks instead of regular packages. 16:29:06 end meeting? 16:29:14 I have no idea if that's the case, but it feels like it's not. 16:29:25 Wanted to make sure everyone had a time to look at 848 16:29:58 * limburgher making sure 16:30:12 I still think its making things more complicated than they need to be 16:30:38 I thought the core of 848 was "don't use %_bindir in a BR. Just use /usr/bin". 16:30:45 Oof. decathorpe agreed. 16:31:21 I can agree to "don't use %{_bindir} in BuildRequires" 16:31:26 but everything else? 16:32:06 yeh +1 16:34:35 Ok, going to end it 16:34:44 everyone can have their 20 minutes back :) 16:35:29 +1 16:35:56 I think the f30 beta Go/No Go meeting will happen soon anyway? 16:36:01 Thanks. I'll double-check the documents that have last-reviewed and make sure the wiki pages have redirects. 16:36:16 One day we'll be rid if this horrible daylight savings time thing. 16:36:46 * decathorpe nods 16:37:13 #endmeeting