15:01:13 <decathorpe> #startmeeting Stewardship SIG Meeting (2019-06-11)
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15:01:22 <decathorpe> #meetingname stewardship-sig
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15:01:29 <decathorpe> #topic Roll Call
15:05:22 <mhroncok> decathorpe: hey
15:09:50 * jstanek also lurks here for the stewardship mtg
15:11:02 <decathorpe> whoops, sorry
15:11:09 <decathorpe> #chair mhroncok
15:11:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: decathorpe mhroncok
15:11:18 <decathorpe> #chair jstanek
15:11:18 <zodbot> Current chairs: decathorpe jstanek mhroncok
15:11:55 <decathorpe> alright, let's start
15:12:08 <decathorpe> anything important you guys want to open with?
15:13:06 <jstanek> I have nothing; I'm mostly here in order to know what is going on
15:14:20 <decathorpe> #topic Open Floor
15:14:45 <decathorpe> I know that mhroncok and I have been working on some pull requests (some fixes and some minor version updates)
15:15:05 <decathorpe> it would be great if we could get a second opinion on these
15:15:50 <decathorpe> #link https://www.pagure.io/stewardship-sig/blob/master/f/PENDING_UPDATES.md
15:16:05 <decathorpe> see the "Good updates with PR"s section
15:18:00 <jstanek> decathorpe: well, they look like Java; I can review them only from packaging perspective, since I do not know any Java
15:18:47 <decathorpe> that should be enough. I did test rebuilds of dependent packages, they are linked in the pull requests
15:19:13 <jstanek> ok, I will try to take a look at them tomorrow
15:19:43 <mhroncok> jstanek++
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15:20:24 <decathorpe> great :)
15:20:45 <decathorpe> I've been trying to get things into better shape
15:21:06 <decathorpe> so I started with minor version updates, and am working my way upwards ;)
15:21:40 <mhroncok> decathorpe: I won't have time to help this effort, I'm burried undeer python 3.8 problems
15:21:55 <mhroncok> decathorpe: but I can have a look in august :D
15:25:34 <mhroncok> decathorpe_: still with us?
15:26:15 <decathorpe> argh. sorry for the disconnects. university WiFi doesn't like me today
15:27:29 <mhroncok> decathorpe: can we discuss log4j?
15:27:33 <decathorpe> mhroncok: I'll wait with requesting the new jboss orphan packages until we reve merged your log4j PR, it should cut down the number of things wee need
15:27:42 <decathorpe> I'll look at your PR when I'm home
15:28:01 <mhroncok> it actually could reduce the number of thing we maintain significantly
15:28:14 <decathorpe> that would be great, yeah
15:28:57 <decathorpe> we could also consider dropping the JPA backend, it would reduce things further and fix installability issues on 32bit
15:28:59 <mhroncok> actually, 32 sig ackages have bconds
15:29:11 <mhroncok> we should probably go trough them and maybe minimize some packages
15:29:38 <decathorpe> yeah, that's probably worthwhile
15:34:56 <mhroncok> decathorpe: I'll open a ticket
15:42:39 <decathorpe> by the way, I also plan on reducing our package set soon - via unresponsive maintainer / long term FTI/FTBFS processes ;)
15:42:50 <mhroncok> decathorpe: for depndent packages?
15:43:07 <decathorpe> yes
15:43:17 <decathorpe> some are hilariously broken
15:43:28 <decathorpe> or not built since f21 or something
15:44:11 <mhroncok> decathorpe: and why do we care for them?
15:44:31 <mhroncok> decathorpe: we generally drop SIG leaves, right?
15:44:51 <mhroncok> so I don't really undertand how this helps, do you have an example?
15:44:58 <decathorpe> it helps my conscience ;)
15:45:26 <decathorpe> and yes, the SIG leaf package removal is the primary way to do it
15:46:19 <decathorpe> once the script has finished generating the correct / complete report, I will resume that procedure
15:48:25 <mhroncok> decathorpe: thanks
15:49:49 <decathorpe> once the results are correct, I'll work on making the script faster ... right now it runs for half a day :(
15:51:50 <mhroncok> decathorpe: the orphaned packages looking for miantainers runs for 5 hours
15:52:12 <decathorpe> that's bad too :D
15:54:43 <decathorpe> alright. let's close this meeting. thanks for showing up!
15:54:45 <decathorpe> #endmeeting