15:00:19 #startmeeting Infrastructure (2019-07-18) 15:00:19 Meeting started Thu Jul 18 15:00:19 2019 UTC. 15:00:19 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:00:19 The chair is smooge. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:19 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:19 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure_(2019-07-18)' 15:00:19 #meetingname infrastructure 15:00:19 #topic aloha 15:00:19 #chair nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge tflink cverna mizdebsk mkonecny abompard bowlofeggs 15:00:20 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 15:00:20 Current chairs: abompard bowlofeggs cverna mizdebsk mkonecny nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge tflink 15:00:26 hello people 15:00:49 morning 15:00:54 morning 15:01:00 .hello zlopez 15:01:01 mkonecny: zlopez 'Michal Konečný' 15:02:46 #topic New folks introductions 15:02:46 #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves 15:02:46 #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted 15:02:46 #knstn introduction 15:02:52 #info knstn introduction 15:03:10 Hi, i'm here 15:03:12 we have a new person knstn who has introduced themselves on the channels 15:03:18 ehllo 15:03:22 welcome knstn 15:04:02 * jlanda is around too, don't have too much free time but I'll be happy to help when I can =) 15:04:18 Well, i want to clarify, that if my "skills" can't help in any way fedora-infra, i can withdraw from it 15:04:41 everyone is welcome. There's stuff for everyone... 15:05:37 There is always something to do :-) 15:05:42 what skills do you have knstn and what are you interested in? 15:06:04 I don't know programming. I study for sysadmin, and work remotely as support engineer for a SaaS company, troubleshooting embedded linux (raspbian). 15:06:20 ah the iot side of the house 15:06:50 I saw you have nagios,collectd, and haproxy. I could monitoring etc I have ccna, lpic-1, study for lpic-2 and then i'll switch to rhcsa/rhce 15:07:30 cool 15:07:31 yeah, improvement suggestions for any of those welcome for sure... 15:08:18 one of the things a new person can do is just say 'I have some questions, can I schedule some time?' and work out a time with a sysadmin.. then go over the questions and improve the documentation on it 15:08:41 it may not sound like a lot.. but it is actually incredibly useful 15:09:03 because if you are wondering what htis does.. even some of the people here are probably doing hte same 15:09:16 * nirik nods. smooge +1 15:10:16 i feel a bit lost, regarding a daily "workflow". what you look, where you update issues etc There are a ton of sites there for fedora. 15:10:45 .hello nphilipp 15:10:47 nils: nphilipp 'Nils Philippsen' 15:11:21 knstn, ah understood. 15:11:30 yeah, there is. It can be confusing. :( For fedora infrastructure, https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues is the main tracker of issues. 15:11:35 (at least for now) 15:12:02 that would be a good thing to write up as a document as it is opaque unless you have been in it for a while 15:12:34 knstn, would you be around tomorrow to schedule some time to work on something? 15:12:56 yeah, as i said i work from home, and i'm almost all day in irc 15:13:28 ok . it is currently 15:00 UTC. I will be available after 18:00 UTC tomorrow 15:13:57 that's fine, i'll be on that time 15:14:22 ok cool. we can meet up in #fedora-admin and go over what questions and answers in an etherpad or similar document 15:14:41 sure, no problem 15:14:46 any other questions for today? 15:15:12 nope, i'll just stay and watch the meeting 15:16:08 #topic announcements and information 15:16:08 #info bowlofeggs is on extended leave 15:16:08 #info cverna will be going on extended leave 15:16:08 #info abombard will be going on extended leave 15:16:08 #info other vacations/leave/etc? 15:16:09 #info Flock2Fedora 2019-08-08 -> 2019-08-11 15:16:10 #info No site trip to PHX2 15:16:12 #info Blog post on retiring apps https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/application-service-categories-and-community-handoff/ 15:16:26 ok lots of people are on the summer breaks. 15:16:31 smooge, abompard_ _is_ on extended leave 15:16:47 smooge: same for cverna 15:16:53 aye 15:17:02 #info cverna is on extended leave 15:17:02 #info abombard is on on extended leave 15:17:31 updated the doc 15:17:52 I did propose a infra/cpe workshop for flock... 15:18:00 nirik: +1 15:18:10 everyone who's there and interested should show up to it. ;) 15:18:45 nirik: It got accepted? 15:19:12 not sure yet... there was talk about moving it to 1/2 day instead of full day so people could attend more other things... 15:19:22 I hope it gets selected. I guess we will see. 15:19:42 Mine was already accepted, this is why I'm asking 15:20:44 they were doing several 'rounds' of them. 15:20:55 I do also have a short talk on communishift... 15:21:00 (that was accepted already) 15:21:15 I have one about release-monitoring.org 15:21:26 i have a talk about how not to attend FLOCK 15:21:27 https://pagure.io/flock/issue/190 is the hackfest one if anyone wants to add comments or suggest things. 15:21:27 hi all, am I still on time for introductions ? :) 15:21:39 smooge: Interesting :-) 15:21:42 smooge: you can do it remotely! :) 15:22:11 it probably should be "how not to regularly attend FLOCK or FUDCON" 15:22:35 drznpy, we did that earlier but if you can wait until the openfloor we can do it then 15:22:46 ok one thing I forgot 15:22:53 np, I’ll introduce myself during the next meeting :) 15:22:54 next week is mass rebuild? 15:23:15 or mass branching? 15:23:22 mass rebuild 15:23:45 2019-07-24 Mass Rebuild 15:23:50 #info Fedora 31/rawhide mass rebuild. Builders will be busy. Packagers tempers will be short 15:23:55 2019-08-13 is branching. 15:24:01 #undo 15:24:01 Removing item from minutes: INFO by smooge at 15:23:50 : Fedora 31/rawhide mass rebuild. Builders will be busy. Packagers tempers will be short 15:24:07 right after flock. ;( 15:24:12 #info 2019-07-24 Fedora 31/rawhide mass rebuild. Builders will be busy. Packagers tempers will be short 15:24:27 #info 2019-08-13 is mass branching.. 15:24:37 #topic Oncall 15:24:37 #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall 15:24:37 #info relrod is on call from 2019-07-11 -> 2019-07-18 15:24:37 #info ?????? is on call from 2019-07-18 -> 2019-07-25 15:24:37 #info ?????? is on call from 2019-07-25 -> 2019-08-01 15:24:38 #info smooge is on call from 2019-08-01 -> 2019-08-13 #flock 15:24:40 #info ?????? is on call from 2019-08-13 -> 2019-08-15 15:24:42 #info Summary of last week: (from relrod ) 15:25:06 I can take the next week if no one else wants it 15:25:11 i need someone to take oncall from relrod and I need someone for next week. I will be doing it for the flock time but will be out afterwords 15:25:18 or the week after 15:25:39 nirik, week afterwords as next week you will be on rebuild issues and other stuff 15:25:43 but yeah, after that I will be flockwards 15:26:14 i can put up the nobody is on call. 15:26:40 well, I can take this week... 15:26:53 next week we see if we can find someone or just nobody 15:27:07 I can probably do next week again 15:27:28 can you do the 25 -> 01 relrod? 15:27:40 smooge: not too much to report this week. A few pings but mostly me telling people "I don't have access to that system, please file a ticket and we'll get to it" 15:28:14 yeah most of the others were things while you were off 15:28:37 that being proxy11 being continually slow and proxy05 having a migraine 15:28:43 so, me, relrod, smooge and figure out after that? 15:28:45 then a bunch of copr related stuff 15:28:50 got it 15:29:12 and the brno ipv6 thing with pagure's new location 15:29:15 smooge: the copr stuff they pinged me about at 3am this morning, but didn't have a solidified question so I ended up going to sleep ;) 15:29:33 relrod, other copr stuff 15:29:46 like ipv6 problems in brno, and bad builders 15:29:48 BTW, looking at flock and f31 schedules... I think our next mass update/reboot cycle window is the week of aug 19th. 15:29:50 * mboddu commented on the mass rebuild tickets to get a status update, FYI 15:30:33 nirik, yeah.. at this point I am just doing update/reboots on systems when I run into them and they are already mostly down 15:30:59 #topic Monitoring discussion 15:30:59 #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios 15:31:00 #info Go over existing out items and fix 15:31:10 * mkonecny really liked smooge commit this week: "s390.koji was caught behind enemy lines. disavow all knowledge and purge all team members from records." 15:31:11 nirik, the ceremonial coffee cup is yours 15:31:11 sure. and we could do a 'no outage causing' update... but we have things every week until the week of the 19th that we don't want to mess with 15:31:14 Oh, I should've put this in announcements probably. I'm on jury duty from aug 19-30, not sure which days they'll call me in. 15:32:01 so, there's a alert about hotness messages... 15:32:15 mkonecny: was going to ping you about that... is hotness no longer emitting messages? 15:32:28 nirik: there is issue on bugzilla side 15:32:43 odcs-backend01/02 disk space. we need to get the attention of someone on the factory2 team. Not sure who is the 'owner' there. 15:32:47 nirik, and commands are .oncall_take_us 15:32:48 ah.. ok. 15:32:48 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1679385 15:32:54 .oncall_take_us 15:32:54 nirik: Kneel before zod! 15:34:08 buildvmhost-s390x-01 has a raid alert, I just need to probibly disable that, as the disk there is... different. 15:34:24 the disk there is magical 15:34:49 * mkonecny prepares wizard hat 15:34:51 it is a virtual disk inside of a virtual machine inside of a virtual container 15:35:34 nirik, do you want me to take tracking dwon odcs people? 15:35:53 or have I done enough 'helping' this week :P 15:36:09 https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/SKDl04gTW0RAvJefYEJuoA 15:36:24 please do if you like... 15:36:33 we were also going to move that volume to a nfs one vs gluster. 15:36:41 but haven't heard anything back from them. 15:36:41 nirik, that looks like a scat song 15:37:17 I was thinking odcs wasn't much used, but turns out I am pretty sure it's used in the flatpack building pipeline now. 15:37:31 yeah 15:38:00 yet another tool which we think we could turn off but find it has bailing wire connection to something else :) 15:38:08 although that might be more duct-tape 15:38:35 the new thing is ramen... 15:38:57 sticky 15:39:03 https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fixing-things-with-ramen 15:39:28 anyhow, thats all the alerts I think 15:39:41 ok next up 15:39:47 #topic Tickets discussion 15:39:47 #info https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/report/Meetings%20ticket 15:40:22 taking that ticket out of htis 15:40:28 any other tickets which need review? 15:40:53 we continue to have a nice high flow of tickets in 15:41:40 I think I am going to make monday ticket monday because tues->friday are assigned other things these days 15:41:55 man I am not sure I can parse what I just wrote 15:41:59 I've been using the later part of the day... 15:42:22 so morning and midday I work on long term/big things... then I do a few tickets to unwind 15:42:28 ty for fixing the ssl cert thing on stg.pagure.org nirik++ 15:42:29 jlanda: Karma for kevin changed to 23 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:42:39 jlanda: no problem... 15:42:41 nirik: But it's better than pinging 15:42:53 mkonecny++ 15:42:53 smooge: Karma for zlopez changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:42:59 mkonecny: oh yeah. Much better. 15:43:00 ah come-on 15:43:26 now i have another different problem there, but I'll need to take a deeper look on it, stg pagure is trying to load pagure.io on the iframe where I had that ssl error 15:43:30 the big thing I still would love to have is a view on what exactly everyone is working on right at the time I look... 15:43:33 I'll open a ticket when I have some more info :D 15:43:44 jlanda, please do.. we need to finish this meeting up before fpc 15:43:54 ie, smooge is heads down in epel8 work and I should leave him alone, etc. 15:44:06 nirik: Yes, some overview could be nice 15:44:09 yeah.. do you want me to put in tickets for that 15:44:31 lets have a meeting to leverage the synergies of ticket flows 15:44:51 * smooge screams 15:45:01 he has become one of them.. 15:45:04 O.o 15:45:40 nirik: What about meeting about the meeting to leverage the synergies of ticket flows 15:46:14 * smooge is crawling in the closet and closing the door 15:46:19 I'm gonna need you all to come in on... saturday... 15:46:53 ok back to the meeting 15:46:58 #topic Open Floor 15:47:22 drznpy, if you are still available.. welcome 15:49:28 ok well next time 15:50:04 alright I am going to kick you all out now so fpc can start. 15:50:10 thank you all for coming and see you next week 15:50:12 #endmeeting