15:00:10 <asamalik> #startmeeting Minimization Team Meeting
15:00:11 <asamalik> #meetingname minimization
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15:00:11 <asamalik> #chair asamalik pbrobinson zbyszek feborges Son_Goku lorbus salimma tdawson ignatenkobrain jaruga
15:00:11 <zodbot> Current chairs: Son_Goku asamalik feborges ignatenkobrain jaruga lorbus pbrobinson salimma tdawson zbyszek
15:00:11 <asamalik> #topic Roll call
15:00:24 <tdawson> .hello2
15:00:25 <zodbot> tdawson: tdawson 'None' <tdawson@redhat.com>
15:00:51 <asamalik> .hello2
15:00:52 <zodbot> asamalik: asamalik 'Adam Samalik' <asamalik@redhat.com>
15:00:53 * asamalik waves
15:01:07 <zbyszek> .hello2
15:01:08 <zodbot> zbyszek: zbyszek 'Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek' <zbyszek@in.waw.pl>
15:03:18 <idf> hello
15:03:36 <asamalik> hi everyone!
15:03:48 <zbyszek> hi
15:03:57 <idf> sorry for not joining the last 2 meetings
15:04:53 <asamalik> not a problem, that's actually what I want to discuss
15:04:54 <asamalik> #topic === Admin ===
15:05:00 <idf> ok
15:05:05 <asamalik> #info -- #14 The weekly meeting --
15:05:09 <asamalik> #link https://pagure.io/minimization/issue/14
15:06:06 <asamalik> all the info is in the ticket, but basically we don't get many people here and I think that's because we have conversation outside the meeting which is more convenient for people to engage at the best time for them
15:06:16 <zbyszek> I would even go one step further, and explicitly only schedule a meeting with interested parties if there's a ticket that requires it.
15:06:29 <idf> yeah I agree with zbyszek
15:06:31 <asamalik> and we could use this meeting for things that actually need a live discussion, but announcing agenda in advance
15:06:35 <zbyszek> I think a weekly might-happen-might-not meeting is distracting, even if doesn't happen.
15:06:51 <asamalik> zbyszek: that's a good point probably
15:07:38 <idf> imo meetings like this would be useful only for stuff like tickets that may require long discussions (especially considering our team size)
15:08:08 <asamalik> idf: I definitely agree, yes
15:08:48 <idf> otherwise we could use a general minimisation chat
15:08:50 <asamalik> #proposed #agreed Only schedule a meeting with interested parties if there's a ticket that requires it. That means we cancel the weekly meeting, and only schedule one when needed, as opposed to cancelling it when there is no agenda.
15:08:53 <idf> for small stuff
15:08:59 <zbyszek> ack, +1
15:09:21 <asamalik> idf: yeah, for that I'd use #fedora-devel or devel@lists.fp.o so it's visible
15:09:28 <asamalik> +1 from me as well
15:09:46 <idf> yep
15:10:10 <asamalik> tdawson: what do you think?
15:10:16 <zbyszek> I'd say that the tickets on pagure have been useful. A wide range of people have pitched in with feedback and various pointers.
15:10:28 <tdawson> I'm fine either way ... let's say I'm a +0
15:10:36 <asamalik> zbyszek: yep!
15:10:47 <asamalik> tdawson: ok
15:11:11 <asamalik> #agreed Only schedule a meeting with interested parties if there's a ticket that requires it. That means we cancel the weekly meeting, and only schedule one when needed, as opposed to cancelling it when there is no agenda. (+3 1 -0)
15:11:55 <asamalik> #info we continue to discuss in #fedora-devel or devel@lists.fp.o
15:12:18 <asamalik> #action asamalik to cancel the meeting as we've agreed
15:12:44 <idf> this say nobody would fear that they missed something, except when its an important ticket ofc
15:12:49 <idf> s/say/way
15:13:24 <asamalik> that's exactly the reason I don't really like meetings that happen in a specific time — we're big global community, with people having other responsibilities and being in various timezones
15:13:57 * asamalik notes there probably aren't meetings that happen in a non-specific time :)
15:13:58 <asamalik> anyway
15:14:09 <idf> asamalik: yep agreed
15:14:11 <asamalik> anything else here?
15:14:38 <idf> welp, not really something that can't be waited or discussed in #fedora-devel
15:15:49 <asamalik> so since we agreed we're canceling this for obvious reasons, do we want to skip right to the Open Floor and maybe finish sooner today?
15:16:22 <asamalik> and maybe spend the time in tickets or #fedora-devel if needed? :)
15:16:25 <idf> seems fine by me
15:16:29 <zbyszek> ack
15:16:38 <tdawson> I don't see anything in issues marked as "meeting" so, ya, I'm fine with open floor.
15:16:47 <asamalik> ok!
15:16:48 <asamalik> #topic === Open Floor ===
15:17:11 <idf> sorry for my dumb questio, but what is open floor :)
15:17:26 <asamalik> idf: it's basically free discussion with no specific topic :)
15:17:32 <idf> oh ok nice
15:17:34 <asamalik> basicaly "anything else we haven't talked about but should?"
15:17:49 <asamalik> usually the last topic on meetings
15:17:52 <idf> kinda guessed that by the name lul
15:18:40 <asamalik> btw I don't really have anything else today that would need to be discussed here
15:18:48 <zbyszek> Me neither.
15:20:04 <asamalik> all right, so I guess I'll give everyone 40 mins back!
15:20:07 <asamalik> thanks for coming!
15:20:22 <asamalik> #endmeeting