15:01:36 <mhroncok> #startmeeting FESCO (2019-11-04)
15:01:36 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Nov  4 15:01:36 2019 UTC.
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15:01:52 <mhroncok> #meetingname fesco
15:01:52 <mhroncok> #chair nirik, ignatenkobrain, jforbes, zbyszek, bookwar, sgallagh, contyk, mhroncok, otaylor
15:01:52 <mhroncok> #topic init process
15:01:52 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fesco'
15:01:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: bookwar contyk ignatenkobrain jforbes mhroncok nirik otaylor sgallagh zbyszek
15:02:13 <mhroncok> ignatenkobrain haven't sent an agenda and does not respond on IRC
15:02:46 <mhroncok> I've started the meeting in case people are actually here, expecting it to happen. if not, we can at least decide what to do next week
15:03:11 <ignatenkobrain> sorry, entirely forgot about it …. =(
15:03:11 <mhroncok> .hello churchyard
15:03:12 <zodbot> mhroncok: churchyard 'Miro Hrončok' <mhroncok@redhat.com>
15:03:13 <zbyszek> .hello2
15:03:15 <zodbot> zbyszek: zbyszek 'Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek' <zbyszek@in.waw.pl>
15:03:40 <bcotton> .hello2
15:03:41 <zodbot> bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' <bcotton@redhat.com>
15:03:46 <mhroncok> ignatenkobrain: np. what to do now? meet or not?
15:03:51 <otaylor> .hello2
15:03:52 <zodbot> otaylor: otaylor 'Owen Taylor' <otaylor@redhat.com>
15:04:00 <zbyszek> Let's see if we have quorum.
15:04:17 <ignatenkobrain> let's see by number of ppl
15:04:23 <mhroncok> ack
15:04:27 <ignatenkobrain> I will have to leave soon, unfortunately
15:07:29 <mhroncok> we miss nirik jforbes bookwar sgallagh contyk
15:07:41 <mhroncok> IIRC contyk is on vacation
15:07:44 <jforbes> .hello2
15:07:45 <zodbot> jforbes: jforbes 'Justin M. Forbes' <jforbes@redhat.com>
15:07:49 <jforbes> sorry, totally forgot about DST
15:08:01 * sgallagh is semi-here
15:10:30 <mhroncok> we have quorum, technically
15:12:06 <mhroncok> ignatenkobrain: ...?
15:14:05 <mhroncok> #topic Next week's chair
15:14:17 <mhroncok> I cannot
15:14:23 <zbyszek> I can.
15:14:25 <mhroncok> only 50 % chance to be here
15:14:30 <mhroncok> zbyszek: thanks
15:14:38 <zbyszek> Oh, wait.
15:14:44 * mhroncok waits
15:14:52 <zbyszek> It's a holiday here. I forgot to check the calendar.
15:14:59 <zbyszek> So I'd prefer somebody else took it.
15:15:06 <jforbes> I can do it
15:15:10 <zbyszek> Thanks.
15:16:20 <mhroncok> #action jforbes will chair next meeting
15:16:26 <mhroncok> #topic Open Floor
15:17:01 * mhroncok waits couple minutes
15:17:35 * nirik sighs... DST sucks
15:18:10 * mhroncok puts this meeting in his calendar timed as 15:00 UTC and doesn't care about DST
15:18:36 <nirik> yeah, but sometimes we have moved it with the change, sometimes not
15:19:14 <mhroncok> should we try again at 16:00 to see if we have more people?
15:20:46 <mhroncok> #action everybody, please try to vote on tickets in pagure if you haven't already.
15:20:56 <jforbes> We have quorum now don't we?
15:21:25 <mhroncok> technically, we always had
15:21:33 <mhroncok> should we go trough the "meeting tickets"?
15:22:32 <jforbes> Sure, I didn't see an agenda
15:22:37 <mhroncok> there was none
15:22:39 <zbyszek> I don't think we should vote on the module stuff now, considering that only a small subset of people are here.
15:22:51 <mhroncok> we have already voted in the ticket
15:23:25 <zbyszek> We could hold a quick vote on #2241.
15:23:29 <zbyszek> .fesco 2241
15:23:30 <jforbes> Fair enough
15:23:30 <zodbot> zbyszek: Issue #2241: F32 Self-Contained Change: Better Thermal Management for the Workstation - fesco - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2241
15:23:59 <mhroncok> +1 to reject for now
15:24:08 <zbyszek> +1 the same
15:24:24 <jforbes> Yeah, we asked, they didn't fill in the details. +1 reject, happy to revisit if they fill in details
15:24:26 <mhroncok> #topic 2241 F32 Self-Contained Change: Better Thermal Management for the Workstation
15:24:27 <nirik> +1 same. They should resubmit after fixing the wiki page.
15:24:46 <sgallagh> +1
15:24:46 <zbyszek> otaylor, sgallagh, ignatenkobrain?
15:25:23 <otaylor> +1
15:25:49 <mhroncok> #agreed Better Thermal Management change is rejected for now (+5, 0, -0)
15:25:54 <zbyszek> +6
15:25:58 <mhroncok> #undo
15:25:58 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: AGREED by mhroncok at 15:25:49 : Better Thermal Management change is rejected for now (+5, 0, -0)
15:26:09 <mhroncok> #agreed Better Thermal Management change is rejected for now (+6, 0, -0)
15:26:59 <mhroncok> who want's to go trough any other ticket, say so now
15:28:38 <mhroncok> .....
15:28:39 <sgallagh> I don't want to restart the conversation, but I'm going to work up a detailed report on what it would take for us to drop default streams from F32
15:28:48 <bcotton> sgallagh++
15:28:49 <zodbot> bcotton: Karma for sgallagh changed to 3 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:28:54 <sgallagh> So we can at least understand what we'd be getting into if we go that route.
15:28:59 <mhroncok> #topic Open Floor
15:29:30 <zbyszek> sgallagh++
15:30:02 <zodbot> zbyszek: Karma for sgallagh changed to 4 (for the current release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:30:02 <sgallagh> #info sgallagh working on a contingency-plan report for dropping default streams from Fedora
15:30:02 <mhroncok> sgallagh: thanks, should we put the modules in buildroots change on hold before we finish this?
15:30:20 <sgallagh> mhroncok: Probably, yes.
15:31:46 <mhroncok> sgallagh: thanks for looking into that. zbyszek, ignatenkobrain and me have started to collect some ideas about what needs to be done if this happens, although we don't have anything in writing, what would be the best way to sync up with you?
15:32:02 <sgallagh> mhroncok: Put something in writing :)
15:32:11 <mhroncok> sgallagh: :D
15:32:11 <sgallagh> An email with your thoughts would be helpful.
15:32:25 <mhroncok> sgallagh: will do
15:32:34 <sgallagh> Thank you
15:33:01 <sgallagh> (To be clear, I'm not *committing* to this course of action yet. I'm investigating to see how difficult it would be to take)
15:33:15 <mhroncok> understood perfectly
15:33:19 <sgallagh> Thank you
15:34:22 <mhroncok> anybody/anything else?
15:35:55 <mhroncok> .....
15:36:30 <jforbes> end it!
15:36:38 <mhroncok> thank you all
15:36:42 <mhroncok> #endmeeting