15:01:36 #startmeeting FESCO (2019-11-04) 15:01:36 Meeting started Mon Nov 4 15:01:36 2019 UTC. 15:01:36 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:01:36 The chair is mhroncok. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:01:36 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:01:36 The meeting name has been set to 'fesco_(2019-11-04)' 15:01:52 #meetingname fesco 15:01:52 #chair nirik, ignatenkobrain, jforbes, zbyszek, bookwar, sgallagh, contyk, mhroncok, otaylor 15:01:52 #topic init process 15:01:52 The meeting name has been set to 'fesco' 15:01:52 Current chairs: bookwar contyk ignatenkobrain jforbes mhroncok nirik otaylor sgallagh zbyszek 15:02:13 ignatenkobrain haven't sent an agenda and does not respond on IRC 15:02:46 I've started the meeting in case people are actually here, expecting it to happen. if not, we can at least decide what to do next week 15:03:11 sorry, entirely forgot about it …. =( 15:03:11 .hello churchyard 15:03:12 mhroncok: churchyard 'Miro Hrončok' 15:03:13 .hello2 15:03:15 zbyszek: zbyszek 'Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek' 15:03:40 .hello2 15:03:41 bcotton: bcotton 'Ben Cotton' 15:03:46 ignatenkobrain: np. what to do now? meet or not? 15:03:51 .hello2 15:03:52 otaylor: otaylor 'Owen Taylor' 15:04:00 Let's see if we have quorum. 15:04:17 let's see by number of ppl 15:04:23 ack 15:04:27 I will have to leave soon, unfortunately 15:07:29 we miss nirik jforbes bookwar sgallagh contyk 15:07:41 IIRC contyk is on vacation 15:07:44 .hello2 15:07:45 jforbes: jforbes 'Justin M. Forbes' 15:07:49 sorry, totally forgot about DST 15:08:01 * sgallagh is semi-here 15:10:30 we have quorum, technically 15:12:06 ignatenkobrain: ...? 15:14:05 #topic Next week's chair 15:14:17 I cannot 15:14:23 I can. 15:14:25 only 50 % chance to be here 15:14:30 zbyszek: thanks 15:14:38 Oh, wait. 15:14:44 * mhroncok waits 15:14:52 It's a holiday here. I forgot to check the calendar. 15:14:59 So I'd prefer somebody else took it. 15:15:06 I can do it 15:15:10 Thanks. 15:16:20 #action jforbes will chair next meeting 15:16:26 #topic Open Floor 15:17:01 * mhroncok waits couple minutes 15:17:35 * nirik sighs... DST sucks 15:18:10 * mhroncok puts this meeting in his calendar timed as 15:00 UTC and doesn't care about DST 15:18:36 yeah, but sometimes we have moved it with the change, sometimes not 15:19:14 should we try again at 16:00 to see if we have more people? 15:20:46 #action everybody, please try to vote on tickets in pagure if you haven't already. 15:20:56 We have quorum now don't we? 15:21:25 technically, we always had 15:21:33 should we go trough the "meeting tickets"? 15:22:32 Sure, I didn't see an agenda 15:22:37 there was none 15:22:39 I don't think we should vote on the module stuff now, considering that only a small subset of people are here. 15:22:51 we have already voted in the ticket 15:23:25 We could hold a quick vote on #2241. 15:23:29 .fesco 2241 15:23:30 Fair enough 15:23:30 zbyszek: Issue #2241: F32 Self-Contained Change: Better Thermal Management for the Workstation - fesco - Pagure.io - https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2241 15:23:59 +1 to reject for now 15:24:08 +1 the same 15:24:24 Yeah, we asked, they didn't fill in the details. +1 reject, happy to revisit if they fill in details 15:24:26 #topic 2241 F32 Self-Contained Change: Better Thermal Management for the Workstation 15:24:27 +1 same. They should resubmit after fixing the wiki page. 15:24:46 +1 15:24:46 otaylor, sgallagh, ignatenkobrain? 15:25:23 +1 15:25:49 #agreed Better Thermal Management change is rejected for now (+5, 0, -0) 15:25:54 +6 15:25:58 #undo 15:25:58 Removing item from minutes: AGREED by mhroncok at 15:25:49 : Better Thermal Management change is rejected for now (+5, 0, -0) 15:26:09 #agreed Better Thermal Management change is rejected for now (+6, 0, -0) 15:26:59 who want's to go trough any other ticket, say so now 15:28:38 ..... 15:28:39 I don't want to restart the conversation, but I'm going to work up a detailed report on what it would take for us to drop default streams from F32 15:28:48 sgallagh++ 15:28:49 bcotton: Karma for sgallagh changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:28:54 So we can at least understand what we'd be getting into if we go that route. 15:28:59 #topic Open Floor 15:29:30 sgallagh++ 15:30:02 zbyszek: Karma for sgallagh changed to 4 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:30:02 #info sgallagh working on a contingency-plan report for dropping default streams from Fedora 15:30:02 sgallagh: thanks, should we put the modules in buildroots change on hold before we finish this? 15:30:20 mhroncok: Probably, yes. 15:31:46 sgallagh: thanks for looking into that. zbyszek, ignatenkobrain and me have started to collect some ideas about what needs to be done if this happens, although we don't have anything in writing, what would be the best way to sync up with you? 15:32:02 mhroncok: Put something in writing :) 15:32:11 sgallagh: :D 15:32:11 An email with your thoughts would be helpful. 15:32:25 sgallagh: will do 15:32:34 Thank you 15:33:01 (To be clear, I'm not *committing* to this course of action yet. I'm investigating to see how difficult it would be to take) 15:33:15 understood perfectly 15:33:19 Thank you 15:34:22 anybody/anything else? 15:35:55 ..... 15:36:30 end it! 15:36:38 thank you all 15:36:42 #endmeeting