17:00:11 <geppetto> #startmeeting fpc
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17:00:11 <geppetto> #meetingname fpc
17:00:11 <geppetto> #topic Roll Call
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17:00:29 * decathorpe is here
17:00:30 <geppetto> #chair decathorpe
17:00:30 <zodbot> Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto
17:00:31 <geppetto> hey
17:00:43 <decathorpe> good morning / evening :)
17:00:58 * limburgher is here
17:01:03 <geppetto> #chair limburgher
17:01:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto limburgher
17:01:14 <limburgher> But I have to go in 15.
17:01:27 <geppetto> could be a short meeting then :)
17:01:45 <geppetto> the only real new thing is I put the fonts policy rewrite on the agenda
17:01:48 <mhroncok> o/
17:01:54 <geppetto> #chair mhroncok
17:01:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto limburgher mhroncok
17:02:04 <limburgher> Ineed
17:02:12 <limburgher> d--^
17:02:14 <geppetto> But that was mainly so everyone took a look at it, I don't expect us to vote it in today
17:05:30 <nim> geppetto, it should be good and mature, given it took 2 years to write
17:06:02 <nim> geppetto, but yes I don't expect a decision today either
17:06:49 * geppetto nods
17:07:33 <geppetto> Yeh, I'm not saying I saw anything wrong with it … just that FPC is generally closer to a geriatric hedgehog than usain bolt
17:08:24 <geppetto> As it is we only have 4, and limburgher has to leave in 5 minutes or so …
17:08:25 <decathorpe> hedgehog? given that we don't have any enforcement power, I'd say ... turtle?
17:09:06 <geppetto> #topic Open Floor
17:09:10 <geppetto> decathorpe: fair enough :)
17:09:12 <limburgher> :)
17:09:15 <mhroncok> :)
17:09:18 <geppetto> Fonts issue: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/935
17:09:21 <decathorpe> but yeah, it'll take a while to read through the 1000+ line dfif
17:09:42 <nim> decathorpe, you can just read the new file
17:09:56 <mhroncok> I confes. I have procrastinated and haven't read that ticket yet
17:09:57 <geppetto> Yeh, if everyone can just put it on their TODO list to read through it this week … hopefully we'll have a meeting next week, as the one after that is a def. no.
17:09:57 <nim> decathorpe, its started from the old foile, but not much remains
17:10:11 <decathorpe> nim: I know, I was just being overly dramatic :P
17:10:34 <decathorpe> mhroncok: I doubt that you even have time for procrastination recently
17:11:10 <geppetto> Anyone have anything else to talk about in the couple of minutes we have left?
17:11:11 <decathorpe> geppetto: what's on Nov 28?
17:11:18 <geppetto> decathorpe: thanksgiving
17:11:27 <decathorpe> ah, you Americans ;)
17:11:31 * geppetto bows
17:11:59 <decathorpe> but good point. I'll try to read the fonts stuff until next week
17:12:17 <mhroncok> decathorpe: I hardly have time to work. the modularity dicussions are like hydras. as soon as you answer something, another 2 heads appear
17:12:36 <decathorpe> mhroncok: ugh, yeah that's true ...
17:12:54 <decathorpe> BTW; does FPC have any "jurisdiction" over modular packaging?
17:13:07 <mhroncok> no
17:13:15 <decathorpe> oh great :D
17:13:17 <mhroncok> same as with non-modular
17:13:29 <mhroncok> :D
17:13:38 <geppetto> 👍
17:14:07 <decathorpe> ok, jurisdiction was the wrong branch of government, I mean legislative power :)
17:14:29 <mhroncok> the guidlelines apply to modular packages the same way they apply to  non-modular
17:14:46 <mhroncok> i.e. past the review, anybody can do whatever they want
17:14:58 <geppetto> ha
17:15:07 <decathorpe> right. I was thinking more about the whole "filtering" and "shadowing" stuff
17:15:08 <geppetto> I mean, you're not wrong but …
17:15:46 <mhroncok> I mean, if some modular package cleary does something forbidden, you can ask the maintainer to stop a smuch as you can do it in non-modular fedora
17:16:26 <mhroncok> about filtering and shadowing, I don't think FPC should make policies
17:16:44 <mhroncok> or we would have 3 groups that do them
17:16:59 <decathorpe> that's true
17:17:33 <decathorpe> alright, I have no more things to say today
17:18:06 <geppetto> Eh, eventaully I think the the guidelines for the module metadata should just be policies like for specfiles … and be under FPC … but I don't enough FPC people know wtf they are atm. … and those that do are invovled anyway
17:18:11 * geppetto nods
17:18:26 <mhroncok> right
17:18:52 <geppetto> Ok, see you next week
17:18:57 <geppetto> #endmeeting