17:00:10 #startmeeting fpc 17:00:10 Meeting started Thu Dec 5 17:00:10 2019 UTC. 17:00:10 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 17:00:10 The chair is geppetto. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:10 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:10 The meeting name has been set to 'fpc' 17:00:10 #meetingname fpc 17:00:10 The meeting name has been set to 'fpc' 17:00:10 #topic Roll Call 17:00:24 * limburgher here 17:00:26 * decathorpe is here o/ 17:00:29 Hello. 17:00:32 #chair limburgher 17:00:32 Current chairs: geppetto limburgher 17:00:34 #chair decathorpe 17:00:34 Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto limburgher 17:00:36 #chair tibbs 17:00:36 Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto limburgher tibbs 17:04:06 hi 17:05:10 #chair mhroncok 17:05:10 Current chairs: decathorpe geppetto limburgher mhroncok tibbs 17:08:48 #topic Schedule 17:09:47 #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/T3DIUAMZRVMPEVJNCKSA2MYZNLYLLISU/ 17:10:19 Not much has changed since the last meeting … has everyone had a chance to look at the new fonts guidelines? 17:10:35 sorry, not this year :( 17:11:02 I skimmed them, and they look detailed and comprehensive. I can't comment on the fonts specific stuff though 17:11:09 other than that ... 17:11:25 I will admit to not having much chance to look at anything. Right now I'm in a hotel room in New Orleans. 17:12:09 I skimmed them when they first dropped and as expected there's a lot of detail but I recall some complaints regarding the complete elimination of bitmap fonts. 17:13:44 really? there's an extra section about bitmap fonts in there. 17:14:47 But the section on "core fonts" ius gone, isn't it? 17:16:23 Ah, it's moved and renamed. 17:17:33 It's super hard to read the patch because it doesn't use semantic breaks and my screen isn't paticularly wide. 17:18:31 yeh, I mostly gave up on reading the patch and just read the new document as a whole 17:18:38 too much has changed. 17:19:20 I guess I'm mostly with decathorpe … the document looked fine, and the packaging parts I understood seemed good … but I don't really know anything font specific. 17:19:37 In any case, I know there were some on-list comments (from Mamoru in particular) but I don't recall if or how they were addressed. 17:19:52 nirik: Any comments? 17:22:29 I didn't look at it too much, but it looked ok from what I could skim. :) 17:23:17 Oh, sorry … got confused … thought you'd submitted it … it was nim 17:26:30 There are a number of moving parts here. I think the best we can do is review the document for basic sanity and functionality and then see how he rest of the discussions in other areas progress. 17:26:39 #topic Open Floor 17:26:47 The last comment in the ticket suggests ongoing discussion elsewhere, but I'm not sure how that ended up. 17:30:49 any comments on this: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/937 17:32:11 makes sense, but I haven't checked the text yet 17:32:15 Almost certainly a case that got missed when bodgin the tilde versioning into the guidelines. 17:32:23 I knew where would be some. 17:33:25 tibbs: yeah, there was some discussion in #fedora-devel about this, so I opened the ticket so we could clarify 17:33:51 I can prepare a PR with the clarification 17:35:51 if you think you know how to fix then, yeh, I'd just do it. 17:35:52 I haven't been able to follow IRC at all lately. 17:36:11 But yes, I'm sure there are mistakes like that in there. 17:36:32 it should be as simple as replacing "use like for prereleases" to "use as for stable releases" 17:36:41 (not the actual text) 17:37:39 I think so, yes. 17:38:15 cool 17:39:04 ok, I'll work on it :) 17:42:00 We need an easy/easier way to see the result of a PR, I think. 17:42:04 Ok, I'm going to close now … give you all 20 minutes back 17:42:23 tibbs: Any suggestions for how to get that? 17:42:25 geppetto: tahnks 17:42:29 At home I use a browser extension but it doesn't give the actual results. 17:43:18 * geppetto nods … I mean we can submit a feature request … but unless someone knows how to do it I wouldn't hold my breath for that change. 17:43:22 I honestly don't know. I guess even some sequence of commands to check out the repo with the PR applied and format that. I'm sure git experts know how to do that easily but I ccan never remember. 17:44:49 I've always clicked about on the website until I get something good enough 17:45:04 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:45:25 Anyway, 5 minutes less … see you next week. 17:45:37 #endmeeting