16:29:01 <dustymabe> #startmeeting fedora_coreos_meeting 16:29:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Aug 19 16:29:01 2020 UTC. 16:29:01 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 16:29:01 <zodbot> The chair is dustymabe. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:29:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:29:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_coreos_meeting' 16:29:05 <dustymabe> #topic roll call 16:29:08 <dustymabe> .hello2 16:29:09 <zodbot> dustymabe: dustymabe 'Dusty Mabe' <dusty@dustymabe.com> 16:29:14 <darkmuggle> .hello2 16:29:17 <aoei> .hello2 16:29:17 <zodbot> darkmuggle: darkmuggle 'None' <me@muggle.dev> 16:29:20 <zodbot> aoei: Sorry, but you don't exist 16:29:23 <aoei> aw :( 16:29:42 <jdoss> .hello2 16:29:43 <zodbot> jdoss: jdoss 'Joe Doss' <joe@solidadmin.com> 16:29:52 <lucab> .hello2 16:29:53 <zodbot> lucab: lucab 'Luca Bruno' <lucab@redhat.com> 16:30:13 * jdoss waves 16:30:43 <skunkerk-> .hello sohank2602 16:30:44 <zodbot> skunkerk-: sohank2602 'Sohan Kunkerkar' <skunkerk@redhat.com> 16:30:47 <dustymabe> #chair darkmuggle aoei jdoss lucab skunkerk- 16:30:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: aoei darkmuggle dustymabe jdoss lucab skunkerk- 16:30:54 <jdoss> I am double booked today so I will have to dip out early. 16:31:06 <cyberpear> .hello2 16:31:07 <zodbot> cyberpear: cyberpear 'James Cassell' <fedoraproject@cyberpear.com> 16:31:30 <nasirhm> .hello2 16:31:30 <zodbot> nasirhm: nasirhm 'Nasir Hussain' <nasirhussainm14@gmail.com> 16:31:40 * nasirhm is off to eat, will be back in 20 mins 16:31:59 <dustymabe> #chair cyberpear nasirhm 16:31:59 <zodbot> Current chairs: aoei cyberpear darkmuggle dustymabe jdoss lucab nasirhm skunkerk- 16:32:10 <jlebon> .hello2 16:32:11 <zodbot> jlebon: jlebon 'None' <jonathan@jlebon.com> 16:32:54 <dustymabe> #chair jlebon 16:32:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: aoei cyberpear darkmuggle dustymabe jdoss jlebon lucab nasirhm skunkerk- 16:33:05 <cverna> Hello 16:33:16 <dustymabe> #chair cverna 16:33:16 <zodbot> Current chairs: aoei cverna cyberpear darkmuggle dustymabe jdoss jlebon lucab nasirhm skunkerk- 16:33:21 <dustymabe> #topic Action items from last meeting 16:33:35 <dustymabe> * bgilbert 16:33:38 <dustymabe> * bgilbert to summarize discussion in #586 16:33:39 <dustymabe> * nasirhm 16:33:41 <dustymabe> * nasirhm to add nvme-cli for udev rules. 16:33:46 <bgilbert> .hello2 16:33:47 <zodbot> bgilbert: bgilbert 'Benjamin Gilbert' <bgilbert@backtick.net> 16:34:02 <dustymabe> #info nasirhm opened PR for adding nvme-cli and it merged https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/pull/564 16:34:13 <bgilbert> #action bgilbert to summarize discussion in #586 16:34:19 <bgilbert> hopefully for real this week :-( 16:34:20 <dustymabe> :) 16:34:31 <jdoss> I believe in you bgilbert 16:34:34 <bgilbert> (was on PTO) 16:35:06 <dustymabe> #topic high level issues for Fedora CoreOS 16:35:17 <dustymabe> This is an agenda item from myself and cverna 16:35:35 <lorbus> .hello lorbus 16:35:36 <zodbot> lorbus: lorbus 'Christian Glombek' <cglombek@redhat.com> 16:35:49 <dustymabe> we'd like to use next week's meeting to discuss the big issues that we need to tackle next in FCOS 16:36:00 <dustymabe> or maybe there are some issues that we don't know about that are affecting users 16:36:23 <dustymabe> either way we'll try to use next weeks meeting to gather items together so we can do some planning around them 16:36:39 <dustymabe> cverna: will send out an email later today with more details 16:37:11 <cverna> I ll share an hackmd link where we can collect issue we want to discuss and prioritize :) 16:37:17 <cverna> issues* 16:37:20 <jdoss> Should we air our grievances in reply to said email? Or compile them elsewhere. 16:37:23 <jdoss> Ahh OK cool. 16:37:23 <jlebon> cool, i like it :) 16:37:56 <dustymabe> #info in next week's meeting we'll talk about high level issues we should try to tackle soon in FCOS, more details coming in an email to coreos@lists.fedoraproject.org 16:38:47 <dustymabe> and to give ourselves more time in the meeting next week.. we'll go ahead and do this one today (originally scheduled for next week) 16:38:54 <dustymabe> #topic 2020-08-19: gather status update for Fedora Council 16:39:20 <dustymabe> so... what have we been up to lately? Medium to largish changes we've made? 16:39:46 <jdoss> Wireguard support! 16:40:11 <jdoss> Docs wrangling 16:40:17 <dustymabe> - addition of wireguard and documentation on how to use it 16:40:19 <bgilbert> docs++ 16:40:27 <bgilbert> PXE rootfs split 16:40:41 <jdoss> A weekly status on Dusty's IRC server. 16:40:43 <dustymabe> +1 - we should mention the fedora docs hackfest (I still have some items in progress from that) 16:40:54 <dustymabe> jdoss: 😜 16:41:38 <dustymabe> bgilbert yep PXE rootfs split and maybe also mention the work we did to get the rootfs CPIO the same for PXE/ISO 16:41:43 <bgilbert> sure 16:41:44 <dustymabe> though that last bit is a bit of an implementation detail 16:42:13 <dustymabe> jlebon: maybe something about coreos-installer with kernel arguments ? 16:42:13 <jdoss> Update on current supported cloud providers and future ones? 16:42:21 <bgilbert> we could mention that the PXE artifacts are now embedded in the ISO 16:42:32 <aoei> cloudproviders++ 16:42:55 <jlebon> dustymabe: that was a while ago. if not in the previous status report, sure :) 16:43:13 <lucab> dustymabe: better Vultr and OpenStack support coming with Afterburn 4.5.0 - https://github.com/coreos/afterburn/releases/tag/v4.5.0 16:43:16 <cyberpear> (anyone tried packet host?) 16:43:17 <dustymabe> this was the previous one https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/576 16:43:31 <dustymabe> lucab++ 16:43:42 <bgilbert> coreos-installer partition saving happened in this cycle, though I don't know if we want to emphasize that feature 16:43:46 <dustymabe> we had quite a few ignition releases.. anything significant in those we should mention? 16:44:14 <bgilbert> experimental LUKS support 16:44:16 <jlebon> "continued work on complex root devices" 16:44:28 <jlebon> though it should be completed in the next status update, so maybe better to wait 16:44:41 <cyberpear> is there a deliverable from past Council updates? or just the ticket? 16:44:59 <lucab> #info better Vultr and OpenStack support coming with Afterburn 4.5.0 - https://github.com/coreos/afterburn/releases/tag/v4.5.0 16:45:00 <dustymabe> mostly we update the ticket and ben cotton pulls the information in 16:45:02 <jdoss> Oooo LUKS support. 16:45:41 <cyberpear> luks is definitely exciting! 16:45:42 <bgilbert> if not already mentioned in the last cycle, Ignition conditional networking 16:45:51 <jlebon> ignition-dracut merge 16:45:54 * nasirhm is here 16:45:59 <dustymabe> yep looks like we covered conditional networking in the last one 16:46:00 <jlebon> though that's more implementation details i gues 16:46:04 <nasirhm> It seems Exciting 16:46:58 <lucab> #info a framework for docs for our upstream projects, starting from Zincati - https://coreos.github.io/zincati/ 16:47:50 <dustymabe> jlebon: anything ostree/rpm-ostree related? 16:48:07 <nasirhm> lucab: Are we migrating from Antora ? 16:48:10 <jdoss> I want to work on documentation for end users to better consume FCOS in development. That falls under documentation wrangling tho. 16:48:44 <nasirhm> (I saw the upstream keyword now) 16:48:50 <aoei> jdoss, I can probably give you some feedback on that in the near future c: 16:48:56 <lucab> nasirhm: no, the above is only for upstream projects, which are already on github and with markdown pages. There is now a flow to auto-publish those 16:49:08 <jdoss> aoei: heck yea let's colab on it. 16:49:09 <nasirhm> jdoss: I can provide you a hand with it. 16:49:18 <jdoss> \o/ 16:49:21 <jlebon> dustymabe: new releases for both, but nothing major 16:49:25 <dustymabe> +1 16:49:28 <nasirhm> lucab: Awesome, Thanks 16:50:12 <dustymabe> ok I'll close out this topic in a moment. The meeting is light on topics for today, so please think if there's anything you'd like to bring up. 16:50:53 <aoei> jdoss, I assume you're talking about the github instructions on building FCOS? 16:51:21 <jdoss> building, and using locally. 16:51:42 <aoei> kk 16:51:56 <dustymabe> #topic open floor 16:52:07 <dustymabe> anything anyone would like to bring up in open floor 16:52:20 * dustymabe wants to give a shoutout to abai who is working on our release-notes workflow 16:52:30 * jdoss claps 16:52:35 <nasirhm> abai++ 16:52:35 <zodbot> nasirhm: Karma for abai changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:52:48 <dustymabe> Current progress is here: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/194#issuecomment-670688769 16:53:00 <abai> thank you dusty! 16:53:27 <cverna> abai++ 16:53:27 <zodbot> cverna: Karma for abai changed to 4 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:53:39 <aoei> maybe. jdoss just mentioned using locally, but the github instructions say you gotta have KVM so not necessarily possible for local use if your hardware doesn't support that. then again maybe i just need to read up more + already built images should be runnable and the issue is the build process? 16:54:00 <dustymabe> also we had our first issue to our enhancements repo get merged: https://github.com/coreos/enhancements/pull/2 16:54:13 <dustymabe> nice work darkmuggle on presenting the problem there and going through the design discussion 16:54:19 * nasirhm claps 👏 16:54:27 <aoei> either way jdoss i will read up more and give you some feedback on the docs regarding that stuff 16:54:42 <jdoss> Sounds good. 16:55:22 * jdoss has to jet 16:55:28 <jdoss> later everyone 16:55:29 <aoei> kk, ciao o/ 16:55:45 <jlebon> darkmuggle++ 16:55:45 <zodbot> jlebon: Karma for darkmuggle changed to 2 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:55:47 <dustymabe> any other topics for open floor? 16:55:53 <jlebon> hopefully one of many to come :) 16:56:07 <nasirhm> darkmuggle++ 16:56:07 <zodbot> nasirhm: Karma for darkmuggle changed to 3 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:56:08 <dustymabe> thank you to bgilbert for the recent coreos-status posts with good information for people! 16:56:31 <nasirhm> Anneyong Gaseyo jdoss 16:56:52 <nasirhm> dustymabe: Can you kind share the link 16:57:05 <nasirhm> bgilbert++ 16:57:18 <jlebon> the complex root device work is almost complete. we're just waiting for a coreos-installer release! soon, you'll be able to e.g. reprovision FCOS on top of $favourite_filesystem 16:57:38 <dustymabe> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/coreos-status@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/WGZWUZWRUB7LDB2AVLTU2ZMXYRX2DS5D/ 16:58:00 <dustymabe> #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/coreos-status@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/LXB4LAQL5VQIRLBHE45VD6XYSKENQC5N/ 16:58:10 <nasirhm> jlebon: This Sounds really exciting, Thank you everyone who've worked on it. 16:58:48 <dustymabe> #info dusty and neal did a presentation on Monday about running OKD on FCOS on DigitalOcean: https://youtu.be/eCm5cNWDMsY?t=7797 16:59:09 <cyberpear> very well done, BTW! 16:59:12 <nasirhm> dustymabe++ ngompa++ 16:59:12 <zodbot> nasirhm: Karma for ngompa changed to 14 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 16:59:19 <dustymabe> thanks :) 16:59:45 <dustymabe> it looks like we might be able to close out a meeting early (might be the first time ever) 16:59:52 <dustymabe> anything else before we close? 16:59:55 <cyberpear> dustymabe++ ngompa++ for excellent FCOS/OKD presentation! 16:59:55 <zodbot> cyberpear: Karma for ngompa changed to 15 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:00:41 <nasirhm> Thank you everyone for making FCOS amazing :D 17:00:55 <dustymabe> #endmeeting