15:00:01 #startmeeting Infrastructure (2020-08-27) 15:00:01 Meeting started Thu Aug 27 15:00:01 2020 UTC. 15:00:01 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:00:01 The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:00:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:01 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure_(2020-08-27)' 15:00:01 #meetingname infrastructure 15:00:01 #chair nirik pingou smooge cverna mizdebsk mkonecny abompard siddharthvipul mobrien 15:00:01 #info Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra 15:00:01 The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 15:00:01 Current chairs: abompard cverna mizdebsk mkonecny mobrien nirik pingou siddharthvipul smooge 15:00:02 #info About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ 15:00:03 #topic aloha 15:00:14 hello! 15:00:28 .hello zlopez 15:00:28 mkonecny: zlopez 'Michal Konečný' 15:00:30 hello 15:00:37 .hello mobrien 15:00:38 mobrien: mobrien 'Mark O'Brien' 15:00:46 .hello hyperreal 15:00:47 hyperreal: hyperreal 'None' 15:00:49 .hello siddharthvipul1 15:00:51 siddharthvipul: siddharthvipul1 'Vipul Siddharth' 15:01:11 .hello seddik 15:01:16 seddik: seddik 'seddik alaoui ismaili' 15:01:20 good morning everyone. 15:01:24 #topic New folks introductions 15:01:24 #info This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves 15:01:24 #info Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted 15:01:32 any new folks like to introduce themselves? 15:01:39 I will 15:02:11 welcome hyperreal. 15:03:10 welcome hyperreal 15:03:26 are you interested in development work or operations or both ? 15:03:36 I'm Jeff Serio. Have a Bachelor's degree in CS. I'm interested in system administration, DevOps, containers, automation with Ansible, OpenShift, etc. 15:03:55 nirik: for Fedora Infra, I'm interested in both 15:04:45 awesome. Do take a look at the Getting started link and see us after the meeting in #fedora-admin and we can get you added to our apprentice group... 15:05:06 any other newcomers today? 15:05:18 nirik: I'm already in the apprentice group :) I was new last week but missed the meeting 15:05:24 Yup, finally got time to attend. 15:05:25 ah ha. cool. 15:05:38 hey TomAPC. welcome. 15:05:54 Hi TomAPC 15:06:35 nirik: hyperreal actually worked on the playbook to copy content between different hosts - https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/9236 15:06:48 hi mboddu :) 15:07:03 Hi hyperreal :) 15:07:15 Hey folks, I'm Tom, SysAdmin for an AI firm in the UK. Looking to expand my SysAdmin knowledge outside of my very in-house tooling we use now. Looking into how the 'real world' works with Devops, general SysAdmin operations as well as things like containers (currently use Docker+K8s, interested to see how things like podman work) as well as various other tasks. I promise to sent an introduction to the mailing list soon :) 15:07:21 Thanks all for the welcome! 15:07:37 That sounds awesome TomAPC 15:07:39 cool. welcome again... 15:08:06 Do feel free to ask questions, look around for tasks to work on, etc. :) 15:08:48 Thanks nirik, will also follow up about the apprentice group also :) 15:08:54 #topic Next chair 15:08:54 #info magic eight ball says: 15:08:54 #info 2020-08-27 - nirik 15:08:54 #info 2020-09-03 - pingou 15:08:54 #info 2020-09-10 - ? 15:08:59 TomAPC: sounds good! 15:09:08 anyone want to step up for the 09-10 meeting? 15:09:19 actually i was going to see if I could run next weeks meeting and have pingou run the one after that.. but he is out 15:09:22 I can do that one 15:09:28 but that works 15:09:47 mobrien: thanks. 15:09:50 Last I checked there weren't any open easyfix issues. Is there another way to find issues suitable for newcomers? 15:10:20 hyperreal: it's a difficult problem, which we haven't really come up with a good solution to... 15:10:35 I see 15:11:20 it's a balance because often easyfix tickets are something we could fix in a minute... so we have to refrain from fixing it, file a ticket and hope someone wants to fix it... 15:11:29 then they get stae 15:11:32 stale 15:11:42 yeah I was thinking that 15:12:07 but I would say: listen in channels and chime in when you want to help out on something people are discussing, and look at normal tickets for something that looks easy... 15:12:20 and we should make another effort to file some more easyfix ones. 15:12:39 indeed. I was also thinking finding something more challenging and working with someone more experienced 15:13:19 yeah. +1 15:13:27 #topic announcements and information 15:13:27 #info CPE Sustaining EU-hours team has a Monday through Friday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 0830 UTC in #centos-meeting 15:13:27 #info CPE Sustaining NA-hours team has a Monday through Friday 30 minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-admin 15:13:27 #info Datacenter move is over, but some items still need to be done: see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/2020-post-datacenter-move-known-issues 15:13:33 any other announcements? 15:13:54 I have one 15:14:03 Probably should have added it there 15:14:36 just #info it now. ;) 15:14:36 We have a docs hackfest next Friday 4th September if anyone would like to join they are more than welcome 15:15:10 #info Fedora Infra docs fest Friday 4th September 13:00 - 16:00 UTC 15:15:12 Excellent. I am looking forward to it. 15:15:16 Sounds like a good first task :) 15:15:22 mobrien,m the hackfest sounds good 15:15:33 might not make the start, but I will be there. ;) 15:15:42 Count me in, I am very much interested 15:15:48 mobrien: is there a particular place? irc? 15:16:12 If anyone wants to add to the agenda it is here https://board.net/p/infra-doc-hackfest 15:16:20 Probably we can reserve one of the #fedora-meeting channels 15:16:27 okey 15:16:29 Provided if they are available 15:16:44 nirik I sent an email to the fedora infra lit that has agoogle meet link but if people want irc we can use that 15:16:57 #info Smoogen will be on PTO 2020-09-05->2020-09-20 15:16:58 s/lit/list/ 15:17:29 mobrien: sure, I think things are pretty light for meetings on fridays... 15:17:46 (so meeting channels should be pretty open) 15:17:50 The reason for the video link is that pbokoc is doing a demo on antora and docs.fp.o at the start 15:17:57 * nirik nods. 15:18:30 thanks for organizing this mobrien! 15:18:37 mobrien++ 15:18:37 smooge: enjoy your time away. :) 15:18:38 mboddu: Karma for mobrien changed to 10 (for the current release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:18:46 I will add an irc channel as well and we can branch out to that after the initial video 15:18:57 sounds good. 15:19:14 smooge: Enjoy your time off, hopefully you will get us more builders/storage when you get back :P 15:19:26 #topic Oncall 15:19:26 #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall 15:19:26 #info mobrien is oncall for 2020-08-20 to 2020-08-27 15:19:26 #info smooge is oncall for 2020-08-27 to 2020-09-03 15:19:27 #info ? is oncall for 2020-09-03 to 2020-09-10 15:19:41 someone want oncall for 09-03 -> 09-10? 15:19:48 If no one, I can take it 15:19:54 If no one interested* 15:19:56 thanks mboddu! 15:20:20 #info Summary of last week: (from current oncall ) 15:20:31 I guess thats mobrien ? any oncall pings? 15:20:33 2 pings this week 15:20:37 1. nils asked about backup/restore for FreeIPA 15:20:49 I suggested that a playbook for each be created, potentially a toddler/cron for the back up 15:20:58 Less privileges needed for back up as not a disruptive change 15:21:03 High privilege needed for restore as potentially destructive 15:21:15 2. Asked to run bastion playbook to update aliases 15:21:22 nirik beat me to it as it was out of hours 15:21:24 re 1: https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/pull-request/218 :) 15:22:18 There was also a question this morning about sigul which wasn't technically an on call ping 15:22:20 cool. 15:22:58 it was just about versions and ended up being an issue on the end user side 15:23:57 sounds good. Things seem to be kinda quiet lately. :) Which is just fine with me... 15:24:07 nirik should we have mentioned the beta freeze in the announcements, just thought of it 15:24:08 someone can review thhis PR => https://pagure.io/fedora-infra/ansible/pull-request/178 while pingou is away ? 15:24:46 mobrien: oh yeah. ;) 15:24:52 seddik: I can try and take a look 15:24:58 #topic Monitoring discussion [nirik] 15:24:58 #info https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios 15:24:58 #info Go over existing out items and fix 15:25:03 so, nagios... 15:25:13 nirik thanks 15:25:39 down hosts are mustangs... need some serious poking with power cycle and serial. 15:25:56 retrace01 is in there, perhaps that should be removed now that retrace03 is up... 15:26:21 proxy35 and proxy36 are being created by mobrien... 15:27:07 bugzilla2fedmsg is broken. I guess I should file a ticket on it to track fixing it... we are connecting, but getting no messages. 15:27:50 pagure01 is getting really low on disk space. we should really move it to rhel8 and give it more space soon. 15:28:34 and sundries01.iad2.fedoraproject.org 15:28:53 yeah, that needs some investigation, or just making it bigger I guess. 15:28:58 nirik, I power cycled all the mustangs last week and got the ones I could online 15:28:59 although we are in freeze right now. 15:29:12 it lasted all of a day and they oops to death 15:29:31 smooge: thanks. yeah, I think perhaps some of them need fresh installing? not sure. 15:30:12 probably.. I have never successfully gotten a mustang to install without a dd so not sure 15:30:23 so lots of things to fix... but most of them we can wait until after freeze. 15:32:41 smooge: or perhaps we just replace them with emags and let them go quietly into the night 15:32:41 anyhow, thats about all the nagios poking today I think. 15:32:41 #topic Open Floor 15:33:00 and... irc disconencted for me. wheee 15:33:08 You're still here. 15:33:24 Anyway, Ryan and I asked ourselves if changes in staging are affected by the beta freeze. 15:33:27 irc has been misbehaving all day for me 15:33:40 We thought probably not, because it's not really working ATM anyway. 15:33:52 nope... staging is never frozen 15:33:58 👍 15:34:04 so hack away. ;) 15:34:06 Thanks for clarifying! 15:34:19 I did start on deploying koji01.stg and db-koji01.stg yesterday. 15:34:24 Ach, let's wait for the proxies and firewalls first :o) 15:34:34 I might do some more today... but yeah, we need proxies to work. 15:35:10 smooge: any news on that? or still in holding pattern? 15:35:29 Is it just existing things that are frozen or does it mean no new stuff as well? 15:35:29 nirik, just looked into the ticket, no changes there 15:36:48 mobrien: well, anything that affects frozen hosts is frozen... so new proxies aren't frozen, but you might need/want a freeze break if/when you add them into production... ie, adding vpn ccd files or the like 15:36:58 nils: ;( 15:37:16 nirik, *shrug* it is as it is ;) 15:37:22 but you can do a PR/freeze break... we are usually pretty open on them especially near the start of a freeze. 15:37:49 nirik, we're hammering away at local ipsilon testing for the time being 15:38:27 cool. 15:38:33 firewall work is sidelined with other work. trying to get it out today 15:38:43 Anyone have anything else for open floor? 15:40:38 ok then... everyone gets 20min of their day back! :) 15:40:42 #endmeeting