20:00:30 #startmeeting FPgM office hours 20:00:30 Meeting started Wed Mar 30 20:00:30 2022 UTC. 20:00:30 This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 20:00:30 The chair is bcotton. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 20:00:30 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:30 The meeting name has been set to 'fpgm_office_hours' 20:00:31 #info This is an open floor meeting to discuss anything program management related (elections, changes, schedule, etc) 20:00:31 #chair bcotton grahamwhiteuk dtometzki glb pawelzelawski q5sys siddharthvipul x3mboy 20:00:31 #topic Announcements 20:00:31 Current chairs: bcotton dtometzki glb grahamwhiteuk pawelzelawski q5sys siddharthvipul x3mboy 20:00:37 #info It's "unsynchronized summer time changes" season: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/reminder-summer-time-changes-coming-up/27831/3 20:00:55 #info F36 Beta was released yesterday 20:00:55 #info F36 Final freeze begins Tuesday 5 April 20:00:55 #link https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-36/f-36-key-tasks.html 20:01:01 #help F36 Wallpapers test day is tomorrow: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022_03_31_F36_Wallpapers 20:01:01 #help Kernel 5.17 Test Week is next week: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2022-04-03_Kernel_5.17_Test_Week 20:01:01 #help Fedora CoreOS Test Week is next week 20:01:01 #help Fedora IoT Test Day is 6 April 20:01:09 #help Submit your ideas for the Fedora Magazine "Feature Spotlight" series: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/collecting-ideas-for-feature-spotlight-articles/ 20:01:14 #info The F36 Release Party will be 13–14 May: https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/youre-invited-to-the-fedora-linux-36-release-party/ 20:01:17 #info Registration for the Fedora Mentor Summit is open 20:01:17 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mentor-summit-is-here/ 20:01:25 #info the Mentor Summit is Friday and Saturday 20:01:32 #info The Fedora Ambassador Call kickoff will be held at 1500 UTC on Thursday 31 March 20:01:32 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-ambassador-call-kick-off/ 20:01:39 #info The Fedora Social Hour is tomorrow: https://matrix.to/#/#social:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[element.io]=chat.fedoraproject.org 20:01:44 #info If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team, file an isssue: https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request 20:01:44 #topic Open floor to discuss anything program management related (elections, changes, schedule, etc) 20:05:43 Ben Cotton (he/him): Are we going to moving out PgM repo to gitlab as well? I ask since you had mentioned using a kanban board for the service security work. 20:06:42 s/out/our/ 20:06:44 i don't have any plans to move it at this point, although id suggest tracking the service security stuff in it's own repo 20:07:54 Makes sense 20:11:05 I reached out to the security mailing list about joining... and it's been two weeks. I know people go on vacations and such, but I've been checking for the security meetings according to when the docs say they are... and they havent been happening. Which then raises the obvious question. Do we really even have a sec team anymore? Obviously OS wise the majority of things will be handled by Red Hat employees upstream. 20:11:55 Im guessing on the Fedora Side of things, mostly any security stuff would be coordination and tracking that things are dealt with when serious matters arise. 20:12:25 i don't think the security team is particularly active (although i'm surprised that it's entirely a ghost town) 20:12:46 the docs page doesn't list any members 20:12:50 so I dont even know who to reach out to. 20:14:37 David Kaufmann (FAS astra) was trying to restart the team last spring according to my email archives 20:14:49 but i haven't heard anything more from him in a while 20:16:00 I wonder if he's Astranox on libera.chat If so... I'll reach out to him and see what his ideas are. 20:16:10 .fasinfo astra 20:16:11 bcotton: User: astra, Name: David Kaufmann, Email: astra@ionic.at, Creation: 2013-11-27T10:53:26, IRC Nicks: None, Timezone: Europe/Vienna, Locale: en, GPG Key IDs: 5CBED71B23D2450E, Status: None 20:16:14 bcotton: Groups: fedora-contributor, fedorabugs, packager, security-team 20:16:25 If he's trying to restart the team I'm happy to pitch when I have time. 20:16:25 no nick :-( 20:16:43 I'll take the direct route and ask him when I see him active next. :) 20:17:11 I also know that Red Hat Product Security assigned a new security architect for Fedora, but he hasn't gotten settled yet 20:17:45 i'm not sure what his role will be, but if he'll be actively participating, i'll make an introduction 20:17:55 Please do. 20:19:21 I want to make sure I get all the ducks in a row so to speak before moving forward on the issue. Because it's such a big task, I'd like to have some general agreement on the task and the best way to proceed, before I start submitting PRs with no real focus or direction. 20:19:47 i get the sense that the focus/direction will be whatever you decide it is, for better or worse 20:20:18 true... but sanity checks from people that may be wiser than I is always a good thing. haha. 20:20:32 if Im going to do this... i want to do it right. 20:25:42 yeah, makes sense 20:26:07 even a check from someone less wise than you can be helpful 20:26:15 I dont want to forever be know as the guy that f'd up the service permissions in Fedora. ;) 20:29:01 at least you'd be known! 20:34:49 I'd rather be unknown than be infamous. lol 20:38:46 :-) 21:04:30 #endmeeting