15:31:52 <nirik> #startmeeting Fedora Mobility SIG 15:31:52 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Aug 8 15:31:52 2022 UTC. 15:31:52 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:31:52 <zodbot> The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 15:31:52 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:31:52 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_mobility_sig' 15:31:53 <nirik> #meeting_name fedora_mobility_sig 15:31:53 <nirik> #chair torbuntu pbrobinson _Yoda_ 15:31:53 <nirik> #topic init process 15:31:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: _Yoda_ nirik pbrobinson torbuntu 15:32:09 * pbrobinson o/ 15:33:00 <nirik> hey pbrobinson 15:33:02 <Yoda[m]> yo 15:33:06 <nirik> hey Yoda[m] 15:35:05 <torsh[m]> Hey 15:35:23 <nirik> hey torsh[m] 15:35:34 <nirik> #topic remix status / issues / plans 15:35:44 <nirik> anything to note/discuss on the remixes? 15:36:25 <nirik> I know there's been a lot of churn in rawhide... 15:36:30 <Yoda[m]> Pretty close to make a common kernel for both phones 15:36:55 <Yoda[m]> just got set back 3 days, as desktop PC got unbootable :-/ 15:37:29 <nirik> oh nice. I thought the 'cross-distro-kernel' seemed stalled out? 15:37:53 <Yoda[m]> yeah, not much going on there 15:38:10 <pbrobinson> I need to revisit the U-Boot patch set for the PPP 15:38:13 <Yoda[m]> but they are finally trying to upstream the DT now 15:38:18 <nirik> I've not had much time for... much. ;) 15:38:40 <pbrobinson> well there's a patch and disagreements on the patch if that's what you mean by upstreaming :-D 15:38:57 <nirik> so, normal open source. ;) 15:39:10 <Yoda[m]> the general recomandation for PPP is to put tow-boot on SPI 15:39:30 <Yoda[m]> That way we don’t need uboot from fedora 15:40:05 <Yoda[m]> Yes, as I said, they are “working” on it ;-) 15:41:44 <Yoda[m]> I can’t build phosh images atm, because of the Chatty issue 15:42:38 <pbrobinson> Yoda[m]: personally I don't actually like towboot 15:43:00 <pbrobinson> so I 1) won't be using it myself and 2) I've heard from many others that pepole want other options 15:43:20 <Yoda[m]> Well, afaik, it will be preinstalled by factory on next batches of PPP 15:43:24 <pbrobinson> what's the chatty issue? is there a bug? 15:44:00 <torsh[m]> There is a dependency requirement for libsoup 2 but gnome and friends are moving to libsoup 3. (evolution data server requires it) 15:45:45 <pbrobinson> they ship both don't they, or is it a issue due to evo linking against one and hence chatty ends up trying to link in both? 15:46:35 <torsh[m]> I think the latter 15:47:35 <pbrobinson> OK 15:48:13 <pbrobinson> is there an upstream migration bug to support both? 15:49:37 <torsh[m]> https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/chatty/-/issues/727 15:49:42 <torsh[m]> https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/libcmatrix/-/issues/4 15:49:46 <torsh[m]> these are the issues I'm aware of 15:50:29 <pbrobinson> torsh[m]: thx 15:51:05 <torsh[m]> Yup 👍️ 15:51:11 <pbrobinson> for those that are playing with this stuff on the rpi4 the 5.19 kernel now has full graphics acceleration in place 15:51:32 <nirik> nice! 15:51:36 <pbrobinson> there's some issues around the rpi400 I need to look at 15:51:41 <nirik> #topic mainstream plans 15:51:56 <pbrobinson> torsh[m]: I think we got you one of those didn't we? 15:52:10 <torsh[m]> Yup! Haven't been able to get phosh running without HA though 15:52:14 <torsh[m]> Same for the pi 3 15:52:22 <pbrobinson> HA? 15:52:33 <torsh[m]> hardware acceleration 15:52:42 <torsh[m]> The graphics piece. 15:53:01 <pbrobinson> ah, yes, so if you use the 5.19 kernel that is all there now 15:53:12 <torsh[m]> Even for the 3? 15:53:24 <pbrobinson> the 3 has had it for years 15:53:32 <pbrobinson> it was the rpi4 that didn't 15:53:38 <pbrobinson> I was also playing with vulkan too on the rpi4 15:53:50 <torsh[m]> Ah right 🤦♂️ 15:54:04 <torsh[m]> Awesome, that's exciting stuff! 15:54:51 <torsh[m]> The failure I'm having with the 3 was getting the 7inch pi display working 😅 15:56:39 <pbrobinson> I need to revisit that one, it's on the list 15:57:20 <torsh[m]> Awesome :) I've been really itching to try phosh on it but it keep eluding my efforts. 15:57:20 <LunaJernberg[m]> There was a new stable phosh today 15:57:25 <pbrobinson> there's been a lot of changed in the vc4 driver recently so maybe it's impproved or maybe got worse :-D 15:57:35 <LunaJernberg[m]> https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Phosh/phosh/-/releases/v0.20.0 15:57:58 <torsh[m]> I have the spec file updated and testing in my copr branch for that phosh release. 15:58:07 <LunaJernberg[m]> nice 15:58:09 <torsh[m]> (I think I shared a screenshot in mobility) 15:58:46 <LunaJernberg[m]> (ah sorry i have not checked tough i would mention in the QA meeting but saw that this meeting started on Matrix) 16:02:18 <nirik> #topic meeting time 16:02:34 <pbrobinson> I also started going through downstream patches for various pieces of the PPP the other day 16:02:39 <nirik> So, I'm often double booked at this time, does anyone mind if we move the meeting time a bit? 16:02:47 <nirik> pbrobinson: aweseome. 16:03:44 <pbrobinson> nirik: fine by me 16:03:51 <torsh[m]> Me too 16:04:01 <nirik> I'll send out a whenisgood or whatever and we can adjust next time. 16:04:05 <pbrobinson> I mean I'm probably double booked most of the time anyway 16:05:42 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 16:05:55 <nirik> anything more to discuss? 16:06:47 <torsh[m]> I was curious if anything more was needed for the phosh spin document? 16:07:02 <pbrobinson> which doc was that? 16:07:06 <nirik> I think it's basically ready... I suppose we could put it in for f38 ? 16:07:22 <pbrobinson> ah, the changes doc? I was going to review that at some point 16:07:30 <torsh[m]> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MobilityPhoshImage 16:07:31 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MobilityPhoshImage 16:07:46 <nirik> yeah, changes welcome as well as more change owners. 16:08:00 <torsh[m]> I tried to think of additions but drew a blank 16:08:52 <pbrobinson> I've got it open again and will review 16:09:01 <nirik> I need to run... shall we end here? or someone else chaired can end the meeting... 16:09:52 <pbrobinson> I suppose the question is what is required for either of the pinephone's to be useful targets in f38? 16:09:57 <pbrobinson> end now 16:10:03 <torsh[m]> now is good 16:10:41 <nirik> ok. ;) lets continue in #fedora-mobility.... 16:10:45 <nirik> #endmeeting