15:00:47 <davdunc> #startmeeting fedora_cloud_meeting 15:00:47 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 12 15:00:47 2023 UTC. 15:00:47 <zodbot> This meeting is logged and archived in a public location. 15:00:47 <zodbot> The chair is davdunc. Information about MeetBot at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions. 15:00:47 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:00:47 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_cloud_meeting' 15:00:57 <davdunc> #chair mhayden 15:00:57 <zodbot> Current chairs: davdunc mhayden 15:01:05 <mhayden> .hello2 15:01:06 <zodbot> mhayden: mhayden 'Major Hayden' <mhayden@redhat.com> 15:01:07 <davdunc> #topic roll call 15:01:12 <mhayden> .hello2 15:01:13 <zodbot> mhayden: mhayden 'Major Hayden' <mhayden@redhat.com> 15:01:16 <davdunc> .hello2 15:01:17 <zodbot> davdunc: davdunc 'David Duncan' <davdunc@amazon.com> 15:01:18 * mhayden was too quick 15:01:25 <davdunc> ;) 15:01:31 <davdunc> 2nd mouse gets the cheese. 15:01:33 <davdunc> :) 15:01:58 * davdunc looks around 15:02:18 <mhayden> this matrix/irc split is so painful 15:03:27 <davdunc> it's going to go away. 15:03:45 <Son_Goku> .hello ngompa 15:03:46 <zodbot> Son_Goku: ngompa 'Neal Gompa' <ngompa13@gmail.com> 15:03:52 <Son_Goku> we're so close to finally having matrix meetings 15:04:17 <davdunc> #chair ngompa 15:04:17 <zodbot> Current chairs: davdunc mhayden ngompa 15:04:33 <themayor> Here 15:05:00 <davdunc> #chair themayor 15:05:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: davdunc mhayden ngompa themayor 15:05:11 <davdunc> oh awesome! themayor you are here. 15:05:34 <davdunc> need you to send me your email so I can get on a meet with you. 15:05:38 <davdunc> later. 15:05:55 <davdunc> okay. 15:07:54 <davdunc> #topic Action Items from Last Meeting 15:09:47 <davdunc> davdunc and others (presumably eighth_doctor) will schedule a fedora-cloud hackfest for kiwi and Azure images. 15:09:55 <davdunc> need to do that now. 15:10:27 <davdunc> I would like the beta images up. themayor can I get your help on the process/program so that we are ready for launch/ 15:10:34 <davdunc> ? 15:11:17 <davdunc> mhayden: I'd like us to work on it together too. I want it to be something we have a process to do and not a person. 15:12:20 <davdunc> okay 15:12:43 <mhayden> alrighty -- i guess i missed the meeting where the kiwi decision went through 🙃 15:13:04 <mhayden> i know obudai was hoping to get osbuild-composer in good enough shape for that 15:13:54 <davdunc> he had the btrfs going, but I haven't touched it to try and build an image. 15:14:11 <davdunc> have you mhayden or Son_Goku 15:14:13 <davdunc> ? 15:14:26 <mhayden> i haven't yet 15:14:44 <Son_Goku> nope 15:14:51 <Son_Goku> been busy with other things 15:14:51 <davdunc> if the btrfs support is there, then the rest of it is there IIRC. 15:15:09 <Son_Goku> well, you still cannot define images entirely from blueprints yet 15:15:16 <Son_Goku> that's a big problem 15:15:29 <davdunc> that's a problem. 15:15:34 <Son_Goku> you're stuck with whatever is hardcoded in the go/python code 15:16:19 <mhayden> okay, i'd like to relay those requirements to obudai anyway for the future 15:16:46 <davdunc> alright. let's start an initiative for doing that. 15:17:15 <davdunc> I can put aside a couple of hours each week for filing bugs against os-build and kiwi. 15:17:34 <Son_Goku> yeah we need to schedule a hackfest day to work on kiwi descriptions for fedora cloud 15:18:04 <davdunc> #action davdunc and ngompa to schedule a hackfest on the Fedora Calendar and post to the mailing list. 15:18:13 <davdunc> I have time this Saturday. 15:18:49 <Son_Goku> sure, works for me 15:18:54 <davdunc> the kiwi and os-build support hackfest. 15:19:09 <davdunc> can we do 12:00 PM EDT? 15:19:18 <davdunc> will that work? 15:19:29 <Son_Goku> sure 15:19:51 <davdunc> I'll add that to the calendar then and post to the mailing list with a google meet ID so we can all work in "one room" 15:20:07 <davdunc> okay! Plan! 15:20:33 <davdunc> #topic Publish cloud images for OCI (Oracle Cloud)? 15:21:04 <davdunc> mhayden: you said the cli will work now. Do we have an account for publication? perhaps dustymabe knows. 15:21:27 <mhayden> oci-cli is in F38+ and it works well 15:21:45 <davdunc> we should upload images. 15:22:05 <mhayden> i have a post on how to get it up there with CLI commands -- a little challenging but it works https://major.io/p/fedora-oracle-cloud/ 15:22:08 <davdunc> that should be a part of our hackfest this weekend in fact. 15:22:50 <davdunc> awesome. 15:23:15 <davdunc> so. . . we'll add that to the todo list for the Saturday hack. 15:23:55 <davdunc> #action davdunc to include oracle cloud upload in the saturday hackfest and testing 15:24:09 <davdunc> awesome. 15:26:05 <davdunc> #link https://pagure.io/cloud-sig/issue/400 15:26:19 <davdunc> we don't appear to have an account yet. 15:26:40 <davdunc> but we can work on the mechanics and be prepared. 15:27:43 <davdunc> #topic Fedora 39 readiness 15:27:54 <spotz> *peeks in*:) 15:27:56 <davdunc> What is on the table for Fedora 39 testing? 15:28:29 <davdunc> Has anyone found anything in testing for the F39-beta on GCP or EC2 that they need to report? 15:28:29 <mhayden> the big thing i had was adding tracer so that cloud-init automatic reboots worked if you updated a package that needs a reboot 15:29:15 <mhayden> when you tell cloud-init to update everything on the first boot, you get the option to tell it to reboot if anything needs a reboot (like systemd or the kernel). previous, that reboot check did not work 15:29:20 <davdunc> okay. That's definitely something we want to add. 15:29:21 <mhayden> now it should work ;) 15:29:46 <davdunc> I remember you talking about this, but we didn't make a PR to include it in the KS. 15:29:54 <davdunc> kickstart 15:30:31 <davdunc> can we do that now? Is that something we need to write a change to include - for F40 and then backport. 15:31:24 <davdunc> lorbus left. . . he's busy "Stream-ing" :) 15:31:54 <davdunc> mhayden ^ what do you think? 15:32:25 <mhayden> hmm i think i added it to the kickstart. first run through failed due to dnf issues, but second PR merged 15:32:49 <mhayden> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-kickstarts/blob/main/f/fedora-cloud-base.ks#_60 15:33:53 <davdunc> okay. so we just need to test it! 15:34:00 <Son_Goku> we'll need a tracer plugin for dnf5 in f41 15:34:18 <davdunc> Son_Goku: good thinking. We should file a ticket. 15:34:37 <davdunc> I'll add that to our list. 15:36:46 <davdunc> #action davdunc to file a ticket for tracer plugin for dnf5 15:37:10 <davdunc> anything else we are concerned about for F39 launch? 15:37:21 <davdunc> themayor: Son_Goku ? 15:37:34 <Son_Goku> we should be good for that 15:37:39 <davdunc> #topic open floor 15:37:44 <Son_Goku> IIRC, Azure images are ready to publish, right? 15:37:53 <davdunc> they are. 15:37:56 <Son_Goku> that's the biggie with themayor 15:37:57 <davdunc> Just need to get them in place. 15:38:11 <davdunc> we'll work on that Saturday. 15:38:14 <Son_Goku> for F40, I need to work on fixes for WSL-DistroLauncher 15:38:31 <davdunc> Son_Goku: that will be our next hackfest! 15:38:39 <Son_Goku> themayor: do you know if I send pull requests for that project that someone will look at them? 15:38:59 <Son_Goku> I'm looking to make it build using Fedora's MinGW cross-compilation toolchain 15:39:12 <davdunc> CFP for RHSummit is open btw. If we want to do something community related, we should. 15:39:21 <Son_Goku> but if nobody is going to review them, I don't want to waste my time 15:39:28 <Son_Goku> davdunc: we should discuss making a proposal 15:39:35 <davdunc> ack! 15:40:20 <davdunc> okay anything else anyone wants to cover right now? 15:40:28 <mhayden> nothing from me 15:41:12 <davdunc> did want to say that Vladomir thought F-cloud and F-coreos were conspicuously absent from the Linux days in CZ 15:41:33 <Son_Goku> :( 15:41:37 <davdunc> we should make sure we work on some materials he can use to help us out there. 15:41:54 <davdunc> He would have been a great representative. 15:42:11 <davdunc> So let's keep that on the stack 15:42:18 <davdunc> mhayden++ 15:42:18 <zodbot> davdunc: Karma for mhayden changed to 5 (for the release cycle f39): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 15:42:51 <davdunc> mhayden did an excellent article on EFS utils for storage on Amazon EC2 15:43:07 <mhayden> oh yeah, we have EFS in there now! 15:43:08 <davdunc> thanks mhayden 15:43:10 <mhayden> etfs-utils i mean 15:43:15 <mhayden> oh lord 15:43:16 <mhayden> efs-utils 15:43:20 <davdunc> thanks for doing that. :) 15:43:20 <mhayden> ☕ 15:43:25 <davdunc> haha. 15:43:36 <mhayden> #link https://major.io/p/aws-elastic-file-system-fedora/ 15:43:38 <mhayden> you're welcome 15:43:41 <mhayden> it's kinda neat 15:43:52 <davdunc> I am working with the SSM team right now. 15:44:09 <davdunc> I think we are getting close. they are listening. 15:44:23 <mhayden> that's good 15:44:48 <davdunc> alright. I think we can call it a day. 15:44:54 <davdunc> Thanks everyone for being here. 15:45:00 <davdunc> and all the hard work. 15:45:31 <davdunc> #endmeeting