17:04:13 #startmeeting 17:04:13 Meeting started Mon Oct 21 17:04:13 2013 UTC. The chair is aeperezt_mb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:04:13 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:04:20 * LoKoMurdoK here 17:04:44 #topic rollcal 17:04:55 .fas robyduck 17:04:55 robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' 17:04:59 .fas lbazan 17:05:00 LoKoMurdoK: lbazan 'Luis Enrique Bazán De León' 17:05:11 .fas aeperezt 17:05:14 aeperezt_mb: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' 17:05:36 sorry my internet was down 17:05:49 #chair aeperezt 17:05:49 Current chairs: aeperezt aeperezt_mb 17:06:26 #chair robyduck LoKoMurdoK 17:06:26 Current chairs: LoKoMurdoK aeperezt aeperezt_mb robyduck 17:06:30 sorry my internet connection was down I just recover it 17:06:36 and still slow 17:06:44 aeperezt: np 17:06:53 if I get of please apologise and carry on with out me 17:07:01 crazy weekend for my ISP 17:07:38 so there is only 3 of us 17:08:04 #info sessivany is on Linux Con so he send his regrets 17:08:10 aeperezt: ok 17:09:01 #info Tuanta send his regrets 17:09:23 any matter we can talk 17:10:28 we have basically no quorum 17:10:45 aeperezt: :( 17:10:53 so we can waith a bit more to see if someone else shows up 17:11:01 or we can end the meeting now 17:11:13 aeperezt: the US$800 for the FAD? 17:11:22 aeperezt: 17:11:46 LoKoMurdoK, nothing we can discuss and agreed on 17:11:46 anyone has an idea of what to prduce for F20 Release Party owners as gift? 17:12:19 aeperezt: ok 17:12:32 robyduck, well people was mentioning the tshirts but 17:12:50 we need to produce it like the last time 17:13:00 indeed 17:13:01 so not sure what else 17:13:25 so we decided to search another gift that would be nice 17:13:28 I think if we have pins by then we can prioritise them and send them a pin 17:13:39 * robyduck hasn't any idea, but as we are talking today... 17:13:48 uhmmm... 17:14:12 robyduck, unless we want to do something else 17:14:36 :) 17:14:37 robyduck, we can do special sticker for f20 and send it to them 17:15:10 stickers can be easy to produce some how locally and easy to send by email 17:15:16 why not, we should collect our ideas somewhere 17:15:23 what we need is some design 17:16:07 robyduck, stickers can be easy made and we do need to produce a vas quantity 17:17:29 .fas cwickert 17:17:29 cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' 17:17:36 * cwickert is sorry to be late 17:18:05 good then we have quorum 17:18:06 oh we have a quorum now 17:18:13 welcome cwickert 17:18:51 :-) 17:19:21 so, what's on the agenda? 17:19:47 cwickert, nothing big as far as I can see 17:20:27 we were talking about ideas about f20 release party owners 17:20:38 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/report/9 17:20:44 at lease on the famsco track 17:21:09 #chair cwickert 17:21:09 Current chairs: LoKoMurdoK aeperezt aeperezt_mb cwickert robyduck 17:21:17 I think we can close some of the old tickets 17:22:49 aeperezt: what kind of ideas? 17:23:31 what items we can send them 17:23:37 like the tshirt last time 17:24:02 I think we can priotitise a Fedora pin to be send to them if we have them 17:24:15 or produce a special f20 stiker 17:25:44 the pins should be ready in a week 17:26:12 I think we should stick to shirts 17:26:13 we also have badges now...instead of t-shirts 17:26:29 robyduck, yes we have the badges too 17:26:30 we have or we want? 17:26:49 cwickert: we have badges we could use as a gift :) 17:26:53 robyduck, the issue with badges is how we can asign it to someone 17:26:59 robyduck: enough? 17:27:40 well, it would be easy to assign them (manually), much more than sending t-shirts around the world 17:28:01 but anyway, it's just an idea I had in this moment ;) 17:28:50 robyduck, we sould approach the badge idea as we also need a way to give badges for ambassadors events 17:29:13 ^^ 17:32:55 * cwickert cannot really follow 17:33:11 I mean, what are we talking about now? 17:33:32 we want something like the schrödinger's cat shirts but for f20, right? 17:34:03 yes 17:34:08 ok 17:34:10 yes 17:34:23 so the shirts are release specific 17:34:47 means, they have custom artwork for that release 17:34:54 does that apply to the badges, too? 17:35:43 hello? 17:36:33 does someone have a picture of the badges? 17:36:56 cwickert: no, we don't have any badges 17:37:20 we was talking about replacing the t-shirts, which are release specific, with a release specific badge 17:37:25 (19:26:49) robyduck: cwickert: we have badges we could use as a gift :) 17:37:52 this way we could have them also for the next releases, if we want (with release specific design) 17:37:58 argh 17:38:19 if the design is release specific, you cannot reuse it next time 17:38:31 oh, no we *have* the badges program, and we could use this 17:38:48 ah 17:38:50 no, sure, we need another design 17:39:01 but the idea could remain the same 17:39:04 dude, I completely misunderstood you 17:39:15 I thought you were talking about something *real* 17:39:24 not your fault, I wrote in a hurry, sorry 17:39:39 ok, sure, a badge for release party owners, sure 17:39:50 I think we all agree 17:39:58 who is going to do it? 17:40:00 no, sadly the only real thing we have, is that badges now exist and are very nice 17:40:10 I mean, do we file a ticket somewhere? 17:40:24 yes, I can file a ticket in the badges track 17:40:32 or anyone else if he wants 17:40:36 cwickert, yes we need to file a ticket dor the badges on the track 17:40:49 any idea about the name? 17:40:50 but we also need a way to asign the badge 17:40:59 robyduck, relese party 17:41:01 #action robyduck to file a ticket for the F20 release party badge 17:41:13 "F20 Release Party" 17:41:17 simple and clean 17:41:22 robyduck, party badge 17:41:24 aeperezt: we need to do this manually, no way to assign them automatically 17:41:27 Fedora release party Badges for the owner (name) 17:41:42 they cannot have anything with the owner it it 17:41:44 robyduck, yes manually but is the a procedure for that? 17:41:59 the way is to file a ticket 17:42:08 no, we need to get in contact with ralph 17:42:27 yes, and you are taking care of this, robyduck 17:42:34 I mean, what's there to discuss? 17:43:07 I will try to put all this info in the ticket, will send the ticket then to the FAmSCo ML so anyone can add his thoughts 17:43:13 cwickert: ok 17:43:26 can we please move on? 17:43:37 I mean, what is so difficult about a badge? 17:44:08 * cwickert is sorry if he sounds rude, he had a long and exhausting day 17:44:16 nothing, but we decided this evening to make one 17:44:43 * robyduck thinks there is nothing else to *move on*, so... 17:44:50 who has questions about the badge? 17:45:20 ok, then lets move 17:45:22 on 17:45:40 I would like to discuss what is to replace the shirts 17:46:09 I mean, a badge is just something virtual, release party people should still get something real 17:46:22 yes or no? 17:46:32 cwickert, yes 17:47:00 more opinions? 17:47:18 cwickert, I think we can replace the tshirt with a sticket 17:47:21 I think "yes" 17:47:24 *sticker 17:47:36 it will be easy to send to people 17:47:47 aeperezt: more easy to produce... 17:48:06 aeperezt: but the effort is the same as shipping t-shirts 17:48:14 some may find it not as valuable as a tshirt but will cost less to produce and send 17:48:36 one step at a time please 17:49:07 do we all agree we want to continue with incentives for the release party organizers? 17:49:26 robyduck: I think you didn't say anything 17:49:32 robyduck, what ever we do will have the same issue mailing it, the part of cost and shipping will be easier on a sticker than a tshirt 17:49:33 cwickert: agreed! 17:49:57 cwickert, we need to 17:50:01 cwickert: I agree, should we keep also the same procedure? 17:50:08 argh 17:50:20 "one step at a time" :) 17:50:23 I mean, Release Party Owners *and* F20 contributors of all the teams? 17:51:28 robyduck: I don't know, I don't see any reason to change anything there 17:51:42 yep, me neither 17:51:54 ok, then why bring up this question? 17:52:10 lets focus on the things we want to discuss 17:52:28 because you are talking only about the RP owners :) 17:53:02 so we agree we want something, we don't want to change the circle of eligible people 17:53:11 the only question is *what* 17:53:18 I suggest we stick to shirts 17:53:25 others have suggested stickers 17:53:43 I don't think we should decide now as we are only a few people 17:53:53 there is plenty of other stuff one could produce 17:54:02 but shirts are generally good value for money 17:54:07 and easy to ship 17:54:30 how about we collect ideas this week and decide next in meeting? 17:54:56 maybe on a ticket or ML? 17:55:09 yes 17:55:28 robyduck: why do you always answer with a counter-question? ;) 17:56:04 robyduck, ticket it better 17:56:59 Ok 17:57:15 I think we should discuss this on the ML 17:57:25 but that's just my opinion 17:57:27 cwickert: I will let you speak then, it was an answer to your question, with 2 alternatives 17:57:53 robyduck: sorry, I just want to finish this meeeting 17:59:41 anybody wants to say anything? 18:00:53 pass it to the Mailing list and get ideas to the next meeting 18:01:05 does everybody agree? 18:01:10 +1 18:01:26 aeperezt robyduck ? 18:01:32 +1 18:01:44 robyduck: ? 18:01:47 :-) 18:02:55 * LoKoMurdoK mm.. 18:02:56 +1 18:03:00 sorry 18:03:01 cwickert: ok 18:03:11 cwickert: for the next meeting! 18:03:22 thanks 18:03:55 aeperezt: thats all? or have other topic? 18:04:02 LoKoMurdoK, no 18:04:07 #action: all famsco members to think about F20 release party crew presents 18:04:09 we can end the meeting then 18:04:13 yes 18:04:18 yes 18:04:19 yes please 18:04:22 #endmeeting