17:00:37 <cwickert> #startmeeting FAmSCO 2013-12-02
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17:00:45 <cwickert> #meetingname FAmSCO 2013-12-02
17:00:45 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco_2013-12-02'
17:00:51 <cwickert> #topic role call
17:00:55 <cwickert> .fas cwickert
17:00:56 <zodbot> cwickert: cwickert 'Christoph Wickert' <christoph.wickert@googlemail.com>
17:01:10 * cwickert waits a while for the others...
17:01:46 <cwickert> #info LoKoMurdoK sent regrets, he is in the countryside for holidays
17:03:06 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
17:03:07 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
17:03:44 <robyduck> .fas robyduck
17:03:44 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
17:03:55 <tuanta> hello robyduck
17:04:04 <robyduck> hi tuanta, hi all
17:04:23 <tuanta> ping aeperezt
17:04:41 <aeperezt> .fas aeperezt
17:04:42 <zodbot> aeperezt: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' <alejandro.perez.torres@gmail.com>
17:05:10 <cwickert> re
17:05:29 <aeperezt> hi robyduck tuanta cwickert
17:05:43 <cwickert> #chair aeperezt tuanta robyduck
17:05:43 <zodbot> Current chairs: aeperezt cwickert robyduck tuanta
17:05:57 <cwickert> who is missing?
17:06:19 <tuanta> Jiri and bckurera
17:06:34 <cwickert> #info sesivany is still on vacation and sends regrets
17:06:56 <cwickert> actually he arrived home this morning, but I guess he is jetlagged and sleeping ;)
17:07:13 <cwickert> and bckurera is missing as always...
17:07:18 <cwickert> so, let's begin
17:07:56 <cwickert> the agenda for this meeting can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/report/9
17:08:27 <cwickert> but I don't think there is much to talk about atm
17:08:42 <cwickert> or is there any ticket you would like to discuss?
17:09:03 * tuanta is looking for
17:09:31 <tuanta> how about #348?
17:09:39 <tuanta> T-Shirts
17:09:57 <cwickert> let's quickly talk about 333
17:09:59 <tuanta> robyduck is attending today
17:10:04 <cwickert> .famsco 333
17:10:04 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/333
17:10:12 <tuanta> ok
17:10:18 <cwickert> #topic RH Community Credit Card holder for APAC
17:10:25 <cwickert> any news, tuanta?
17:10:54 <tuanta> no :(
17:11:16 * cwickert commented on the ticket last week to nag rsuehle and rbergeron, but unfortunately they have not replied
17:11:24 <cwickert> probably because of the holidays in the US
17:11:26 <tuanta> I see both Ruth and Robyn got your comment on the ticket
17:11:34 <cwickert> tuanta: did you also mail them?
17:11:39 <tuanta> they are in cc list
17:11:57 <cwickert> yeah, but it's probably a good idea if you mail them directly
17:12:04 <tuanta> I saw your comment then I think no separated email needed
17:12:05 <cwickert> but famsco list in CC please
17:12:35 <tuanta> ok, I will send them a notice to pay more attention to the ticket
17:12:39 <cwickert> let's nag them again, please write a mail tuanta. it's better if it comes from somebody from the region
17:13:06 <tuanta> ok, I will send an email
17:13:09 <cwickert> #action tuanta to send rsuehle and rbergeron a mail about https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/333 again
17:13:19 <cwickert> anything else?
17:13:42 <cwickert> .fas 348
17:13:44 <zodbot> cwickert: loveywm 'loveywm' <490054348@qq.com> - r1348 'Dario Castellarin' <req1348@gmail.com> - lwp513485 'liwanpeng' <493313@live.cn> - miller3489 'Micheal O. Miller' <Michael.Miller@gdol.ga.gov> - shan 'vijayshankar' <vijay3487@gmail.com> - surely '肖林' <371273484@qq.com> - axf33480 'alain frenois' <axf33480@gmail.com> - req1348 'Dario Castellarin' <djdac84@hotmail.com> - prashant13485 'Prashant Sashidharan' (1 more message)
17:13:44 <tuanta> that's all now. We will be back to this topic later
17:13:47 <cwickert> oops
17:13:52 <cwickert> .famsco 348
17:13:52 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/348
17:13:52 <tuanta> :)
17:14:05 <cwickert> #topic F19 t-shirts for contributors
17:14:15 <robyduck> Here I am :)
17:14:21 <robyduck> should be F20 tshirts
17:14:39 <cwickert> was this intended for the F20 shirts or is this actually an old ticket?
17:15:13 <robyduck> cwickert: I think it's an old ticket
17:15:21 <robyduck> sesivany filed it 7 months ago
17:15:29 <cwickert> ok, let's file a new one
17:16:00 <cwickert> #action robyduck to file a ticket for the F20 shirts and give us a status update there: design, quotes, whatever you have
17:16:17 <robyduck> thx cwickert , will do
17:16:21 <cwickert> robyduck: so, tell us everything we need to know please
17:16:28 <cwickert> frankly speaking I am lost on this one
17:16:42 <robyduck> we ordered some shirts more than last time
17:16:48 <cwickert> I didn't even know if we want to award release party owners with shirts
17:17:30 <robyduck> cwickert: yes we want, we will award also the most active contributors for F20, and some of the long termo contributors
17:18:01 <cwickert> ok
17:18:05 <robyduck> sadly the lists are not all complete yet, but I don't expect very very lonk lists of the missing teams
17:18:27 <cwickert> how many shirts do we have and how many candidates?
17:18:43 <robyduck> so we ordered a reasonable number (have to stay also within the budget, which will be for the forst quarte 2014)
17:18:45 <tuanta> IIRC, this is a set of special T-shirts, for active contributors throughout 10 years of Fedora
17:18:52 <robyduck> 240 shirts
17:19:17 <tuanta> it's not just for F20
17:19:37 <robyduck> candidates? we don't have a definitive number yet
17:19:47 <robyduck> tuanta: yes, not just, but also
17:20:08 <tuanta> ok, thanks for clarification, robyduck
17:20:15 <robyduck> with mailga we are going to request the missing postal addresses in these days
17:20:49 <robyduck> btw, I need also your addresses, or at least I need to know where you want the shirt shipped (or where to pick it up)
17:21:57 <robyduck> not only, we need also the size you want to receive (we ordered more M and L this time, as the last time we had too much XL and XXL left)
17:22:14 <cwickert> robyduck: when are they ready?
17:22:23 <cwickert> can you bring them to Rheinfelden?
17:22:44 <robyduck> Well, the order has been placed last tuesday, they need about 10-12 days to produce them
17:22:51 <cwickert> ok
17:23:00 <robyduck> cwickert: I don't know if they will be ready
17:23:21 <robyduck> I will hear Kveta and sesivany if they get them before the weekend
17:23:31 <tuanta> I think one of the biggest problems now is the recipients list has not been completed yet
17:23:33 <robyduck> would be great to have them already for the FAD
17:24:27 <robyduck> tuanta: we have agreat advantage towards last time, we already have the size and address of many of the people in the list
17:25:14 <tuanta> you are talking about the last time, F19 T-shirts?
17:25:38 <robyduck> and I'd ask you all, if you have other names (expecially APAC which I don't know well) who should be awarded, please add them to the wiki page
17:25:46 * robyduck looks for the link
17:26:17 <robyduck> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F20_anniversary_tshirt
17:26:29 <tuanta> robyduck: yes, I will discuss this in the next APAC meeting on this Saturday
17:26:48 <robyduck> and thanks to gnokii for the design I'd say ;)
17:26:57 <robyduck> that's more or less the actual status
17:28:43 <cwickert> anything else?
17:28:57 <robyduck> cwickert suggested to add also the ambassador group, so did I. We need to have a list also there, of the most active ones
17:29:15 <cwickert> how many candidates do we have atm?
17:29:25 <robyduck> about 130
17:29:30 <cwickert> ok
17:29:41 <robyduck> so we have still many shirts
17:30:02 <cwickert> not that many
17:30:10 <cwickert> I mean, think of the release parties
17:30:16 <cwickert> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F20_release_events
17:30:23 <robyduck> how many do we expect to have?
17:30:35 <cwickert> say we have 10 release events
17:30:38 <robyduck> I counted about 15
17:30:50 <cwickert> and each has 3 owners, that's 60 shirts
17:30:54 <cwickert> erm, 45
17:30:57 * robyduck enated to be optimistic
17:31:05 * cwickert sucks in math...
17:31:11 <cwickert> s/in/at
17:31:18 * cwickert also sucks at English
17:31:20 <cwickert> :)
17:31:24 <tuanta> :)
17:31:25 <robyduck> well, we need to figure that out, a Release Party needs 3 owners?
17:31:36 <cwickert> well, I will have two
17:31:48 <cwickert> one for me and one for Ralf who hosts the event
17:31:59 <cwickert> ok, let's day 50 shirts
17:32:07 <cwickert> s/day/say
17:32:16 <cwickert> I think getting rid of the shirts is not a problem
17:32:17 <robyduck> ok, that's one (you are already in the FAmSCo list :P
17:32:25 <cwickert> :)
17:32:30 <robyduck> no, we won't have any shirt left :D
17:32:54 <cwickert> I suggest we first send out the ones where we are absolutely sure and if we have some left, we look for new candidates
17:33:07 <robyduck> agree
17:33:12 <tuanta> +1
17:33:19 <cwickert> we have so many awesome contributors, giving away 250 shirts is not a problem
17:33:24 <tuanta> aas soon as they are ready to deliver
17:33:28 <cwickert> ok, anything else on this then?
17:33:44 <robyduck> not from me, any questions?
17:33:49 <cwickert> how about shipping? will this be handled centrally or to certain hubs?
17:33:57 <robyduck> aeperezt: I need also your help for LATAM
17:34:10 <robyduck> cwickert: same process as last time, from Brno
17:34:17 <cwickert> like, sesivany could ship my shirt together with the stuff for the release event
17:34:24 <robyduck> yeah
17:34:26 <aeperezt> robyduck, we can help you
17:34:27 <cwickert> and I then can send more within germany
17:34:42 <cwickert> I recently send a shirt to mrunge and it was just 1,45 EUR
17:34:51 <robyduck> if we can ship the shirt(s) together with other stuff or do a ship-pooling, that would be nice
17:35:02 <cwickert> but we can figure that out with Jiri once he is back
17:35:25 <cwickert> ok, let's move on
17:35:27 <tuanta> I can also help to deliver in APAC by bringing them to FAD APAC
17:35:33 <cwickert> tuanta: cool
17:35:46 <cwickert> #topic Schedule
17:35:59 <cwickert> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule
17:36:19 <cwickert> http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-ambassadors-tasks.html
17:36:55 <cwickert> ok, we are already past the event funding request deadline
17:37:00 <cwickert> but I don't think this is a problem
17:37:19 <cwickert> we have money left and people will just get reimbursed for what they spend
17:37:46 <cwickert> #action all famsco members to discuss the funding requests for release events with their regional community
17:37:51 <cwickert> makes sense?
17:37:57 <cwickert> just some sanity checking
17:38:24 <cwickert> not that somebody requests something unreal
17:38:25 <tuanta> +1
17:38:30 <robyduck> yes, +1
17:38:50 <aeperezt> +1
17:38:58 <cwickert> ok, in your next local meeting, please discuss the events from https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F20_release_events for your region
17:39:09 <cwickert> any everything below 100 will just be rubberstamped
17:39:16 <tuanta> but it does not work for NA (no FAmSCo member)
17:40:57 <cwickert> no release parties either ;(
17:41:00 <cwickert> so nothing to discuss
17:41:44 <tuanta> :)
17:42:30 <tuanta> next topic?
17:43:31 <cwickert> I have nothing more
17:43:37 <cwickert> sorry, I was distracted
17:43:42 <cwickert> anything from you guys?
17:43:54 <robyduck> nope
17:44:00 <aeperezt> nope
17:44:04 <tuanta> how about the ticket #352?
17:44:17 <tuanta> I think there is a small problem
17:45:33 <aeperezt> tuanta, why?
17:45:39 * tuanta is looking in archives
17:45:43 <cwickert> .famsco 352
17:45:43 <zodbot> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/352
17:45:57 <cwickert> #topic EMEA Mentor Nomination: Keiran Smith
17:46:01 <cwickert> I see no problem
17:46:14 <cwickert> anything from the FAMA side, tuanta?
17:46:21 <tuanta> ah, my mistake
17:46:25 <aeperezt> cwickert, right
17:46:46 <tuanta> I saw another man just withdrawn
17:46:52 <tuanta> not this man, sorry :)
17:47:21 <cwickert> ok
17:47:24 <cwickert> FAS: Check
17:47:28 <cwickert> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_Join_choose_a_mentor: check
17:47:43 <cwickert> ok, I think that should be it
17:47:50 <cwickert> I think we can close this ticket
17:47:59 <tuanta> yes
17:48:04 <tuanta> everything done
17:48:28 <cwickert> ok, I will close the ticket then
17:48:31 <cwickert> anything else?
17:48:41 <tuanta> nope
17:49:21 <cwickert> oh, sesivany just texted me
17:49:35 <cwickert> he is on his way home, but I don't think we need to wait for him
17:49:46 <cwickert> I think we all should remind our regions of the release events
17:49:54 <cwickert> but other than that, there is not much to di
17:49:56 <cwickert> do*
17:50:14 <tuanta> +1
17:50:14 <cwickert> #topic Open floor
17:51:26 <cwickert> tuanta: is there a mentors mailing list?
17:51:36 <robyduck> yes
17:51:37 <tuanta> yes
17:51:45 <cwickert> we need to add affix
17:51:52 <cwickert> let's leave the ticket open then
17:52:03 <tuanta> fama-mentors
17:52:30 <tuanta> ok, I will add him
17:53:47 <cwickert> same for fama trac
17:53:58 <cwickert> I can do trac, you do the list
17:54:55 * tuanta is doing that now
17:55:17 <cwickert> and I have done trac
17:55:51 <robyduck> when are next elections?
17:56:50 <tuanta> .fas affix
17:56:51 <zodbot> tuanta: pyrox 'Keiran Smith' <jan@fedoraproject.org> - affix 'Keiran Smith' <fedora@affix.me>
17:57:09 <aeperezt> robyduck, I'm wandering the same question
17:57:31 <aeperezt> robyduck, to me there should be a elections process started on Nov
17:57:46 <robyduck> aeperezt: yes I remember the same, at least nomination period
17:57:59 <cwickert> tuanta: affix is the right account
17:58:12 <tuanta> cwickert: I added his email address to fama-mentors list
17:58:25 <cwickert> ok, I did the ticket
17:58:27 <tuanta> just checking his address
17:58:32 <aeperezt> robyduck, think we need to wait for FPL to call elections
17:58:38 <cwickert> right
17:58:43 <cwickert> this needs to come from the board
17:58:49 <tuanta> yes
17:58:50 <cwickert> and they need an election wrangler
17:59:05 <robyduck> cwickert: thx
17:59:10 <cwickert> let's wait another week and if there is no progress, let's poke to board
18:00:03 <cwickert> ok, any other business?
18:00:34 <tuanta> nope
18:00:36 <aeperezt> nope
18:00:49 <cwickert> #action wait another week and if thereare no news about the elections, poke the board
18:00:55 <cwickert> allright then
18:00:56 <robyduck> no, thx cwickert for chairing
18:01:01 * cwickert will close this meeting in 3
18:01:02 <cwickert> 2
18:01:03 <cwickert> 1
18:01:06 <cwickert> #endmeeting