17:01:22 <sesivany> #startmeeting FAmSCo 2013-12-23
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17:01:32 <sesivany> #meetingname famsco
17:01:32 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco'
17:01:39 <sesivany> #topic Roll Call
17:01:49 <sesivany> .fas eischmann
17:01:50 <zodbot> sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com>
17:01:51 <robyduck> .fas robyduck
17:01:54 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
17:02:12 <sesivany> tuanta: ping
17:02:12 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
17:02:13 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
17:02:46 <sesivany> looks like that's it. No one else seems to be in the rooms.
17:03:06 <robyduck> indeed
17:03:10 <tuanta> Merry Chistmas! :)
17:03:37 <robyduck> cwickert perhaps
17:04:27 <sesivany> ok, let's make this meeting a quick one.
17:04:41 <tuanta> Ok
17:04:54 * sesivany needs to go buying Christmas presents :) #lastminute
17:05:02 <robyduck> hehe
17:05:05 <tuanta> :)
17:05:30 <robyduck> do we have something urgent?
17:05:39 <sesivany> #topic Spending in Q4
17:05:49 <sesivany> robyduck: no, but I'd like to discuss a few things.
17:05:53 <sesivany> at least quickly
17:06:02 <tuanta> Ok
17:06:34 <sesivany> rsuehle updated spending info.
17:06:39 <sesivany> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FY14_Budget
17:06:57 <sesivany> #info Updates info about our spending from Red Hat financials
17:08:20 <tuanta> That's a source. AFAICS, It's a bit different from ours.
17:08:44 <sesivany> if I'm counting correctly, we have spent $82k.
17:09:06 <sesivany> which is $8k for the rest of the year.
17:09:22 <sesivany> but frankly the numbers just don't match with our tracking.
17:09:36 <robyduck> yes, they are different
17:10:11 <tuanta> I also made a notice about low spending (as scheduled) in APAC
17:10:25 <tuanta> Hope it would be changed
17:11:09 <tuanta> At least, we know that's happening
17:11:12 <sesivany> according to these numbers, we only spent $8k in EMEA.
17:11:31 <sesivany> but according to my tracking, it's over $16k.
17:11:40 <tuanta> :)
17:11:52 <sesivany> there might be some difference because not all money has landed in their accounting.
17:11:55 <robyduck> sesivany: isn't it overall?
17:12:05 <sesivany> but it's not definitely $8k difference.
17:12:58 <robyduck> sesivany: ah ok gotcha
17:13:33 <sesivany> the totals for quarters don't match the sums of quarterly spendings of regions.
17:13:41 <sesivany> weird
17:14:04 <robyduck> sesivany: looking on Q4 NA seems to have spent the total Q4 amount and EMEA only 84$?
17:14:07 <tuanta> I see this page is also detailed enough so we can check the numbers case by case
17:14:48 <sesivany> tuanta: yes.
17:14:58 <sesivany> I just need to find time for it.
17:15:42 <tuanta> A number could be delayed to the other quarter. It's acceptable, i think.
17:16:15 <tuanta> They need time to record it into their financial system
17:16:21 <sesivany> ok, I'll look at it in more detail and will inform others in FAmSCo.
17:16:31 <tuanta> Cool
17:16:36 <robyduck> +1
17:17:04 <tuanta> Next topic?
17:17:26 <sesivany> tuanta: there was the request of gnokii to come to FOSSASIA to talk. Is APAC willing to take his request?
17:17:48 <sesivany> if not, EMEA will pay it, but if APAC has money left, let's spend it.
17:18:13 <tuanta> That's fine to me
17:18:38 <sesivany> ok
17:18:40 <tuanta> Just need approval in APAC meeting
17:18:51 <sesivany> #topic CC holder for APAC
17:19:07 <sesivany> tuanta:  I read the financials are willing to accept a community holder.
17:19:08 <tuanta> I will raise this case in the next APAC meeting
17:19:45 <sesivany> tuanta: we just need to make super duper sure he's reliable :)
17:19:45 <robyduck> sesivany: that's great
17:19:57 <tuanta> That's a new update after FAmSCo sending the recommendation letter?
17:19:58 <robyduck> yes sesivany
17:20:49 <tuanta> That's really cool Xmas news :)
17:21:23 <sesivany> but FAmSCo relies on the APAC community anyway because we cannot know the candidate personally enough.
17:22:31 <tuanta> Yes. We have approved to propose this guy in a meeting
17:22:38 <robyduck> what about writing a FAmSCo signed mail to him once the CC card is approved to advice him about using it the 'right way'?
17:22:59 <sesivany> tuanta: can you take care of it?
17:23:13 <tuanta> We did approval
17:23:14 <robyduck> or APAC, yes
17:23:31 <tuanta> That's logged in the ticket
17:24:34 <sesivany> so all we need to do is to write a recommendation letter signed by FAmSCo?
17:25:01 <robyduck> sesivany: I would see it as the best solution
17:25:23 <robyduck> tuanta: ok we approved him, but remember what Ruth said about a 'bad use'
17:25:23 <tuanta> After he git the card, It's best to have some advice from other CC holder
17:25:45 <tuanta> S/git/got
17:26:15 <tuanta> Can we ask jsimon to support him at the first time?
17:26:22 <robyduck> Just to make sure he is aware of the responsibility/opportunity we gave him
17:26:40 <tuanta> +1
17:26:51 <robyduck> that depends on jsimon and if he has time, but would be great, sure
17:27:30 <sesivany> jsimon has been quite busy recently
17:28:13 <sesivany> ok, anything else?
17:28:29 <sesivany> we can't really do any important decisions in three people.
17:28:39 <tuanta> +1
17:29:38 <sesivany> ok, if that's it for today, I wish you Merry Christmas and meet you in one week!
17:29:39 <tuanta> How about the next meeting?
17:29:49 <sesivany> tuanta: I can attend
17:30:12 <tuanta> Ah, I can not attend it. I am on train that that time
17:30:36 <robyduck> yes, I don't have anything else
17:30:37 <sesivany> tuanta: we'll see.
17:30:52 <robyduck> Merry christmas to you too
17:30:57 <sesivany> if there are not enough people, we can just cancel it or make it shorter like today.
17:30:58 <tuanta> :)
17:31:08 <sesivany> see ya
17:31:11 <sesivany> #endmeeting