16:10:06 <robyduck> #startmeeting FAmSCo 2014-10-07
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16:10:17 * masta is here
16:10:20 <robyduck> #meetingname famsco
16:10:20 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco'
16:10:23 <lbazan> .fas lbazan
16:10:25 <zodbot> lbazan: lbazan 'Luis Enrique Bazán De León' <bazanluis20@gmail.com>
16:10:31 <robyduck> #chair masta, lbazan, yn1v
16:10:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: lbazan masta robyduck yn1v
16:10:35 <robyduck> .fas robyduck
16:10:37 <lbazan> robyduck: tks!
16:10:37 <zodbot> robyduck: robyduck 'Robert Mayr' <robyduck@gmail.com>
16:10:45 <yn1v> .fas yn1v
16:10:46 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <yn1v@taygon.com>
16:11:03 <robyduck> let's see what we can discuss
16:11:40 <robyduck> do we have anything specific?
16:11:55 <masta> .fas jdisnard@
16:11:57 <zodbot> masta: parasense 'Jon Disnard' <jdisnard@gmail.com>
16:11:58 <robyduck> I see we need to decide about F21 media, but cwickert and sesivany aren't here
16:12:17 <robyduck> so it's better to wait next week with that, although we are going very close now
16:12:30 <robyduck> any idea?
16:12:43 <yn1v> I saw a ticket requesting a new mentor for NA
16:12:53 <robyduck> maybe we could file a ticket and go on there with that topic?
16:12:58 <lbazan> robyduck: +1
16:13:02 <yn1v> but I didn't follow up the ticket
16:13:14 <robyduck> ah yes
16:13:30 <robyduck> should I open it later?
16:13:57 <lbazan> ok
16:14:01 <robyduck> #action robyduck to open a ticket for F21 media discussion, to be continued next week during FAmSCo meeting.
16:14:10 <robyduck> yn1v: do you have the link?
16:14:19 <yn1v> looking for it
16:15:04 <yn1v> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/368
16:15:11 <yn1v> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/368
16:15:30 <lbazan> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/368
16:15:39 <lbazan> up sorry
16:15:49 * lbazan webchat....
16:16:12 <robyduck> #topic Mentor request for Andrew Ward #368
16:16:22 <masta> I can vouch for Andrew Ward, he would be a great mentor in NA.
16:16:24 <yn1v> so, this is the test case for the new procedure
16:16:39 <robyduck> it's also the first case
16:17:15 <lbazan> I not remember this nomintaion "I have asked a FAMSCO Committee Member to make this nomination 3-6 months ago"
16:17:21 <robyduck> does thios ticket went to the Mailing List?
16:17:23 * lbazan nomination*
16:18:13 <robyduck> no, it didn't get there
16:18:20 <lbazan> robyduck: no
16:18:37 <masta> I thought we discuss ticket on irc, then document in the ticket and/or list, and it all ties together so we know when the discussing happened  ?
16:18:42 <yn1v> the idea was that a new mentor has to be proposed by a existing mentor.
16:18:43 <robyduck> we should first open a topic on the FAMA ML, wai a week and thgen vote, right?
16:18:55 <robyduck> s/wai/wait
16:19:15 <masta> I'd like to expedite this one, he has been requesting to be mentor for a long while now.
16:19:26 <robyduck> this should be done directly by the mentor who proposes a new mentor, IMHO
16:19:57 <yn1v> that will work, so we can take from mailing list if any current mentor support this request
16:20:32 <robyduck> masta: I don't know, we should follow the new process, and a week doesn't matter, or does it?
16:20:42 <robyduck> just my opinion
16:20:45 <lbazan> masta: you are a mentor?
16:21:14 <yn1v> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_Join_choose_a_mentor
16:21:35 <lbazan> yn1v robyduck masta sent to the ML and wait 1 week IMHO is the process..
16:21:36 <masta> lbazan: I am not
16:22:24 <lbazan> NA have 8 mentor only 3 available
16:22:37 <robyduck> .fas ward
16:22:38 <zodbot> robyduck: evoc 'Edward O'Callaghan' <victoredwardocallaghan@gmail.com> - roshangeek 'Roshan Weerawardane' <roshanvip@yahoo.com> - tedwards 'Tim Edwards' <tkedwards@fastmail.com.au> - edsealing 'Edward Sealing' <ed.sealing@gmail.com> - aricullen1134 'aricullen1134' <edwards_girl_1918@yahoo.com> - edmann 'Edward Mann' <e.dev@edmann.com> - brianedwardhill '' <brian.hill@mantech.com> - eswierk 'Edward Swierk' (31 more messages)
16:22:43 <robyduck> ouch
16:22:53 <robyduck> masta: do you know his FAS?
16:22:55 <lbazan> 4 available
16:23:41 <yn1v> the mail sent to the mailing should request that a mentor support this proposal, so we save time
16:23:53 <robyduck> yes
16:24:19 <masta> robyduck: award, I believe
16:24:35 <robyduck> masta: although I'm in favour to have Andrew, we should follow the process we voted last time.
16:24:52 <robyduck> .fas award
16:24:53 <zodbot> robyduck: roshangeek 'Roshan Weerawardane' <roshanvip@yahoo.com> - pivithuru 'Pivithuru Wijegunawardana' <pivithuruw@gmail.com> - cinslk 'Chinthaka Nirodhawardane' <cin.srilanka@gmail.com> - anandawardhana '' <anandawardhana@gmail.com> - ishanj 'Ishan Jayawardena' <udeshike@gmail.com> - pubudumj 'pubudu manoj jayawardena' <pubudu.net99@gmail.com> - award3535 'Andrew Ward' <award3535@tds.net> - divyang (1 more message)
16:24:54 <masta> .fas award3535
16:24:55 <yn1v> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Award3535
16:25:00 <zodbot> masta: award3535 'Andrew Ward' <award3535@tds.net>
16:25:13 <robyduck> .fasinfo award3535
16:25:14 <zodbot> robyduck: User: award3535, Name: Andrew Ward, email: award3535@tds.net, Creation: 2010-10-21, IRC Nick: award3535, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, GPG key ID: , Status: active
16:25:17 <zodbot> robyduck: Approved Groups: ambassadors cla_fedora cla_done freemedia cla_fpca
16:25:35 <robyduck> finally :)
16:25:39 <lbazan> robyduck: xD
16:26:18 <robyduck> are you ok with letting this go first to the ML?
16:26:24 <masta> yes
16:26:56 <yn1v> yes, but request that a current mentor support his application
16:26:58 <robyduck> who wants?
16:27:15 <lbazan> robyduck: yes
16:27:17 <robyduck> yn1v: sure, we link also the ticket
16:27:29 <yn1v> I can do write the email
16:27:33 <robyduck> cool
16:27:39 <lbazan> :-)
16:28:20 <robyduck> #action yn1v to write to FAmA-mentors ML for the nomination as a mentor of award3535
16:28:51 <yn1v> now that we get in the mood for the new mentor process ...
16:29:11 <yn1v> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/369
16:29:46 <robyduck> #topic Neville Cross stepping down from mentor status #369
16:30:23 <lbazan> robyduck: need tuanta to remove the sponsor
16:30:40 <lbazan> I think +1
16:30:43 <robyduck> yes, and there is no need to do other actions
16:31:09 <robyduck> yn1v: are there still enough mentors in LATAM?
16:31:42 <yn1v> I think so, but lbazan can confirm if he has been having too many request
16:31:57 <lbazan> robyduck: in the past I take the position of yn1v
16:32:11 <yn1v> in any case during fudcon, lbazan a dbruno can figure out if more people is needed
16:32:31 <lbazan> yn1v: and have new mentor in argentina
16:32:31 <yn1v> s/ a /and
16:32:32 <robyduck> ok
16:33:23 <lbazan> yn1v: you have other option put unavailable
16:34:16 <yn1v> I have been unavailable since lbazan steeped up
16:34:33 <robyduck> so you want really to step down?
16:34:42 <yn1v> yes
16:34:44 <lbazan> ok
16:34:47 <lbazan> robyduck: +1
16:35:09 <robyduck> then we shouldn't even vote about this, just ask Tuan to update the FAS.
16:35:25 <lbazan> robyduck: and put comment in the ticket
16:35:26 <robyduck> it's your wish, yn1v, so that should be ok for all.
16:35:38 <robyduck> yep, can you do lbazan?
16:35:40 <robyduck> ;)
16:35:42 <lbazan> yes
16:35:44 <lbazan> :-)
16:36:02 <yn1v> it is even needed? it is not just downgrade in the ambassador group?
16:36:16 <yn1v> so I am not longer sponsor?
16:36:22 <robyduck> #action lbazan to update ticket #369 and reach FAmA to update the mentor status of Neville Cross
16:36:31 <lbazan> robyduck: tks!
16:36:53 <lbazan> yn1v: tuanta have the administrator rol in ambassador group
16:37:18 <yn1v> yes, but mentor have sponsor rights
16:37:22 <robyduck> yn1v: once Tuan updates the FAS group you aren't longer sponsor for ambassadors
16:38:23 <lbazan> yn1v: only to add users in the group
16:38:29 <robyduck> your FAS status will be ambassadors and not +ambassadors
16:39:22 <yn1v> I see the option of downgrade
16:39:39 <yn1v> from sponsor to user
16:39:42 <robyduck> yn1v: yes that's true
16:40:17 <yn1v> I clicked ... 500 Internal error
16:40:21 <lbazan> yn1v: :o
16:40:41 <yn1v> okey, we keep the action, lets tuanta take care of it
16:41:04 <lbazan> yn1v: ok
16:41:36 <robyduck> any other topic today?
16:41:39 <yn1v> or if need to scalate to jsimon
16:41:59 <robyduck> not needed IMHO
16:42:12 <robyduck> Tuan is the actual FAmA, so it's his job ;)
16:43:23 <robyduck> other topics?
16:43:30 <lbazan> robyduck: ok
16:43:43 <lbazan> yn1v: fudcon?
16:43:46 <lbazan> yn1v: others
16:43:50 <lbazan> nothing for me
16:43:51 <lbazan> ...
16:44:16 <yn1v> #topic fudcon latam
16:44:35 <yn1v> ruth has bought all tickets
16:44:56 <yn1v> there is no extra founds from Fedora/redhat
16:45:20 <lbazan> yn1v: ok
16:45:28 <yn1v> #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WPmiEbUMGE9hqZ52i_tvPaQN4BaAwTm_x0uk2WjARJM/edit#gid=0
16:46:00 <yn1v> there are about $700 from fedora budget after paying hotel bill
16:46:38 <yn1v> we are missing less than $100
16:46:51 <yn1v> we still have some people that may help us.
16:47:25 <robyduck> ok, so you did with the initial budget of 10k?
16:47:36 <yn1v> but we are printing the posters tomorrow, so if they come with help they will be only showing in thet other materials to be produced later
16:47:53 <masta> \O/
16:48:04 <lbazan> ok
16:48:32 <yn1v> no, I did a budget to show how many people were requesting sponsorship and talked with Ruth
16:48:32 <robyduck> yn1v: great job
16:48:44 <robyduck> aha, ok
16:49:03 <yn1v> Some people did not have time to travel due visa, work and they opt out
16:49:21 <yn1v> so we end up under $10K
16:50:02 <yn1v> So the request for extra funds were on the table but never really were approved
16:50:56 <yn1v> I asked for extra money for raspberry pi and arduinos, and was told that hacking electronics for the sake of it was not good use of fedora money
16:52:03 <yn1v> so, I get a bit frustrated by that I went ahead and ordered those out of my onw pocket
16:52:15 <robyduck> uhmm...
16:52:56 <robyduck> anything else FAmSCo can do for the event?
16:53:00 <yn1v> There is no such hardware in Nicaragua, most likely will be easy to sell those
16:53:13 <robyduck> haha, sure
16:53:57 <yn1v> there is a catch, I can not receive money via paypal transfer, so reimburse myself is a bit tricky
16:54:53 <yn1v> If I don't use the fedora credit card it will complicated to be reimbursed
16:55:46 <yn1v> Not sure what else to report
16:56:14 <yn1v> echevemaster is finishing the registration/votation system
16:56:25 <yn1v> so, the rest is local work
16:56:29 <robyduck> ok thanks, I saw you did a great job in the last weeks :)
16:57:01 <robyduck> #topic Open Floor
16:57:07 * masta heads out early, bye
16:57:32 <yn1v> #link http://imgur.com/ymfZevj
16:57:35 <robyduck> if there isn't anything else let's end it here, we are pretty in time
16:57:45 <robyduck> see you masta, and thanks
16:57:47 <yn1v> #info fudcon managua 2014 poster
16:58:04 <yn1v> nothing more from me
16:58:13 <robyduck> nice :)
16:58:32 <lbazan> fino
16:58:34 <lbazan> nice
16:59:05 <robyduck> #endmeeting