19:00:53 <jreznik> #startmeeting F21 Beta Readiness Meeting
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19:00:54 <jreznik> #meetingname f21-beta-readiness-meeting
19:00:54 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'f21-beta-readiness-meeting'
19:01:10 <jreznik> #topic Purpose of this meeting
19:01:11 <jreznik> #info "Before each public release all of the groups participating the development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release is well coordinated."
19:01:12 <jreznik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings
19:01:14 <jreznik> #topic Roll Call
19:01:22 <nirik> .hello kevin
19:01:23 <zodbot> nirik: kevin 'Kevin Fenzi' <kevin@scrye.com>
19:01:33 * pingou lurking
19:01:36 <pingou> .hello pingou
19:01:37 <zodbot> pingou: pingou 'Pierre-YvesChibon' <pingou@pingoured.fr>
19:01:51 <jreznik> Hi everybody, good afternoon, evening, morning - whatever you have right now :)
19:01:56 <sesivany> .fas eischmann
19:01:58 <zodbot> sesivany: eischmann 'Jiri Eischmann' <eischmann@redhat.com>
19:02:02 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
19:02:03 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
19:02:11 <jreznik> remember, we have readiness badge - if you don't have your badge yet, you have a chance!
19:02:23 <jreznik> #link https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/readiness
19:02:32 <pingou> oh shiny :)
19:02:53 <jreznik> pingou: by gnokii!
19:03:29 <jreznik> a few folks apologized they can't come today, let's start - I'll try to ping folks during this meeting
19:03:35 <jreznik> #topic Current status
19:04:39 <jreznik> F21 Beta is currently no-go as we don't have release candidate, but ticket is filled and we will try to repeat Go/No-go meeting tomorrow to avoid one week slip as holidays are getting closer
19:05:09 <jreznik> if anyone can help with release validation - QA guys would be happy for every single hand!
19:05:19 * jreznik will try to help as much as possible
19:05:36 * sesivany will help too
19:05:37 <jreznik> I will send announcement right after this meeting
19:06:11 <jreznik> #topic Ambassadors
19:06:19 <jreznik> sesivany: you can help now too :)
19:06:22 <jreznik> your turn
19:06:55 <sesivany> we're pretty much ready. The only missing thing I can think of are artworks for F21 media.
19:07:13 <sesivany> but that's something we will need like a week before the final release.
19:07:26 <sesivany> inkscaper should be working on it already.
19:07:27 <jreznik> it's more final thing but I will create ticket tomorrow, better to have it earlier - gnokii just heads up
19:07:38 <jreznik> ok
19:07:58 <sesivany> #link https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/337
19:08:14 <jreznik> just one question not related completely to release but how does it look like with Council nomination?
19:08:33 <jreznik> ah, you created ticket, thanks!
19:08:52 <sesivany> jreznik: FAmSCo nominated cwickert and we asked the marketing and design teams to nominate their candidates.
19:09:24 <sesivany> but there has been no response so far, so it's just cwickert now.
19:09:44 <jreznik> ok, in the end it seems like we could do all elections in one time, just asking as I saw this question from jwb in board ticket
19:10:11 <jreznik> anything else? :)
19:10:41 <sesivany> not really, just that we will send out the call for F21 release events soon.
19:10:57 <sesivany> we're ready for the beta.
19:11:18 <gnokii> https://badges.fedoraproject.org/badge/lets-have-a-party-fedora-21
19:11:35 <jreznik> #info Ambassadors ready for beta, media artwork ticket created, release parties call will be sent soon
19:11:48 <jreznik> #topic Design
19:12:10 <jreznik> gnokii: you or ryan? mizmo told me I can ping one of you
19:12:58 <gnokii> banners done, wallpaper not 100% done, but we can go without it and push it as an update, so we are ready
19:13:47 <jreznik> #info banners done, wallpaper not 100% done but will be pushed as update
19:14:09 <jreznik> are there any other beta requests on design team from anyone?
19:14:56 <jreznik> seems like not now, moving on, thanks gnokii!
19:15:07 <jreznik> #topic Documentation
19:15:43 <jreznik> randomuser: are you around?
19:17:20 * roshi is here late
19:17:39 <roshi> (sorry, got distracted tracking down a bug - I'm standing in for jzb for mktg)
19:17:55 <jreznik> moving on, will ping docs guys but from what I know coverage of release notes is pretty good
19:18:11 <jreznik> #topic FESCo
19:18:29 <jreznik> nirik: anything from FESCo for Beta?
19:18:37 <nirik> should be good to go... nothing blocking beta.
19:19:09 <jreznik> #info nothing is blocking Beta from FESCo
19:19:14 <jreznik> thanks nirik!
19:19:26 <jreznik> #topic Fedora Engineering Manager
19:19:58 <jreznik> stickster told me he's going to miss today's meeting -> skipping
19:20:11 <jreznik> #topic Fedora Project Leader
19:21:02 * jreznik does not see mattdm online, will contact him offline
19:21:12 <jreznik> #topic Marketing
19:21:46 <jreznik> jzb: any chance you're near computer? jzb told me he's going to be out
19:21:53 <roshi> I'm standing in for jzb today
19:22:03 <roshi> nothing holding marketing back, we're good for beta
19:22:03 <jreznik> roshi: great!
19:22:07 <jreznik> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F21_Beta_release_announcement
19:22:49 <jreznik> more eyes on release announcement - better!
19:23:05 <jreznik> btw. I'd like to have final version on Monday
19:23:31 <jreznik> this time we would like to create prettier htmlized version for Fedora Magazine
19:23:49 * jreznik has rights to edit it WP
19:24:04 <jreznik> anything else roshi?
19:24:07 <roshi> I think that should be doable
19:24:13 <roshi> nope
19:24:22 <roshi> that's the message I was to deliver :)
19:24:42 <jreznik> thanks roshi!
19:24:50 <roshi> np :)
19:24:56 <jreznik> #info holding marketing back, we're good for beta
19:25:24 <jreznik> #info release announcement to by published also in Fedora Magazine
19:25:41 <jreznik> #topic Infrastructure
19:25:57 <jreznik> nirik: again you :)
19:26:12 <jreznik> or pingou could speak for badge!
19:26:30 <nirik> we should be all ready. ;)
19:26:51 <jreznik> #info Infrastructure should be ready
19:27:01 <jreznik> #topic Websites
19:27:10 <pingou> jreznik: nirik knows it all :)
19:27:15 * pingou lurking
19:27:27 <jreznik> you had a chance!
19:27:35 <jreznik> robyduck: are you around?
19:27:37 <robyduck> Websites are set, just need the final stuff when we have RC
19:27:52 <jreznik> #info Websites are set, just need the final stuff when we have RC
19:27:57 <robyduck> once ready we need AMI IDs as soon as possible
19:28:13 <robyduck> thank you jreznik
19:28:18 <jreznik> ok
19:28:24 <roshi> marketing info should read "nothing holding marketing back"
19:28:56 <jreznik> not beta thing but for final, I expect you need a lot of stuff - any help you would like for here?
19:29:41 <jreznik> robyduck: ^^^
19:29:42 <robyduck> jreznik: we are already working on it and it looks good, design team is helping a lot so we should be done in time :)
19:30:10 <jreznik> awesome! ping me in any case when something would be blocked/missing :)
19:30:27 <robyduck> just need updates if WG have new stuff they want to promote
19:30:43 <robyduck> ok jreznik will do for sure
19:31:22 <jreznik> #info WGs to send updates to websites team if they have new stuff they want to promote
19:31:38 <jreznik> #topic QA
19:32:07 <jreznik> adamw, roshi: I don't expect anything else than RC1 and validation, validation and validation, right?
19:32:43 <roshi> pretty much
19:32:56 <roshi> tracking down a blocker now - and waiting on an RC1
19:33:01 <roshi> then testing like crazy
19:33:08 <roshi> probably going to be a long night :)
19:33:15 <roshi> that about sum it up adamw ?
19:33:17 <adamw> yeah
19:33:25 <adamw> we seem to have found some serious borkage in the 32-bit images
19:33:29 <adamw> but we're still tracing it out
19:33:34 <adamw> by 'we' of course i mean 'roshi'
19:33:47 <roshi> sorry about that :p
19:34:24 <jreznik> ok, thanks - we will see
19:36:09 <jreznik> #topic Release Engineering
19:36:15 <jreznik> dgilmore: are you around?
19:36:35 <dgilmore> jreznik: I am
19:36:54 <dgilmore> we will be okay
19:36:55 <jreznik> anything from releng for Beta except rc compose?
19:37:22 <dgilmore> nada
19:37:24 <jreznik> btw. is it ok to repeat go/no-go the same time if we would be lucky the same time as today or is it late for you?
19:37:39 <dgilmore> jreznik: i am at FUDCon
19:37:44 <dgilmore> it was during my talk today
19:37:52 <dgilmore> it should be okay
19:37:59 <dgilmore> but the network here is not great
19:37:59 <jreznik> dgilmore: aha, sorry for that :(
19:38:25 <jreznik> conferences and network...
19:38:34 <dgilmore> == boom
19:38:55 <jreznik> something like that
19:39:03 <jreznik> gracias
19:39:32 <jreznik> #info releng will be okay, go/no-go time is okay too
19:40:00 * jreznik does not see noriko, will skip translators
19:40:20 <jreznik> randomuser: any updates for docs?
19:40:27 <jreznik> otherwise I skip to open floor
19:40:31 <randomuser> i'm here
19:40:38 <jreznik> #topic Documentation
19:41:00 <randomuser> We're trying to catch up with covering self-contained changes at the moment
19:41:34 <randomuser> and the situation with netinstalls will have to be documented somehow
19:41:42 <randomuser> it's been an interesting release cycle, for all :)
19:42:16 <randomuser> jreznik, ... I haven't really been following the meeting; should I be speaking to something specific?
19:42:32 <jreznik> nothing specific unless you need anything
19:43:18 <jreznik> btw. I'd say changes are now from 99% complete for Beta... maybe after beta with some testing, there could be some further changes
19:43:50 <randomuser> #info randomuser invites everyone to review RNs at https://fedorapeople.org/groups/docs/release-notes/en-US/ and communicate issues or enhancements
19:43:52 <randomuser> EOF
19:44:02 <jreznik> #info documentation trying to catch up with covering self-contained changes at the moment
19:44:16 <jreznik> #info netinstall situation has to be documented
19:44:22 <jreznik> thanks randomuser!
19:44:43 <jreznik> #topic Open floor
19:46:04 <jreznik> I think we're all set
19:46:12 <jreznik> anything we missed today?
19:46:41 * nirik has nothing
19:46:49 * jreznik is setting fuse
19:46:58 <jreznik> thanks everyone for coming!
19:47:06 <jreznik> 3...
19:47:44 <jreznik> 2...
19:47:55 <pingou> 1...
19:48:38 * jreznik will do all secretary work needed
19:48:42 <jreznik> thanks pingou
19:48:45 <pingou> thanks for chairing jreznik
19:48:47 <jreznik> #endmeeting