15:00:45 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora ARM & AArch64 Status Meeting
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15:00:45 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen bconoboy pbrobinson dgilmore hrw jsmith kyle
15:00:45 <zodbot> Current chairs: bconoboy dgilmore hrw jsmith kyle pbrobinson pwhalen
15:01:01 <pwhalen> .fas pwhalen
15:01:02 <zodbot> pwhalen: pwhalen 'Paul Whalen' <pwhalen@redhat.com>
15:01:07 <pwhalen> good day everyone :)
15:02:04 * pbrobinson is here
15:02:49 <dgilmore> hola
15:03:51 <Affix> .fas Affix
15:03:52 <zodbot> Affix: pyrox 'Keiran Smith' <jan@fedoraproject.org> - robheston 'Robert Heston' <rob@sungraffix.net> - affix 'Keiran Smith' <fedora@affix.me>
15:05:03 <Affix> thought if i want to get involved I might as well be here
15:05:16 <pwhalen> thanks for coming Affix
15:05:24 <Affix> :)
15:05:24 <yselkowitz> .hellomynameis yselkowitz
15:05:27 <zodbot> yselkowitz: yselkowitz 'Yaakov Selkowitz' <yselkowi@redhat.com>
15:05:34 <pwhalen> howdy yselkowitz
15:05:42 <Affix> hi yselkowitz
15:05:48 <pwhalen> #topic 1) ==== F22 branching ====
15:05:58 <dgilmore> it is still underway
15:05:59 <pbrobinson> so F-22 is branching as we speak
15:06:29 <pbrobinson> will be done on all arches so it's more a heads up that as of RSN we'll be building for F-22 and F-23 will be rawhide
15:06:51 <pbrobinson> but it's something to be aware of for ARMv7 and aarch64
15:07:00 <pbrobinson> nothing more really to say on that
15:07:08 <pwhalen> #info branching underway, shortly F23 will become rawhide
15:07:13 <pwhalen> thanks for the heads up
15:07:40 <pwhalen> #topic 2) ==== 3.19 Testing/Status  ====
15:08:05 <pwhalen> #info 3.19 final is out now
15:08:19 <pwhalen> #link http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=609892
15:08:31 <pbrobinson> 3.19 GA is in rawhide now so it would be good for people to test and report issues to the list or BZ
15:09:04 <pbrobinson> similarly uboot 2015.01 is in rawhide too, and before long we'll be rebasing to 2015.04 RC series
15:09:44 <pwhalen> i just started testing myself, but it did clear up an issue with chrony
15:09:51 <dgilmore> likely this week u-boot will get updated
15:10:04 <pwhalen> speaking of the kernel (chrony issue)
15:10:53 <pwhalen> dgilmore, any changes expected? or too many to list
15:11:13 <pwhalen> is there something in particular we'll be interested in
15:11:19 <dgilmore> pwhalen: right now all the upstream changes
15:11:30 <dgilmore> I am trying to pull together cubox-i patches
15:12:25 <pwhalen> #info U-Boot to be rebased to 2015.04 RC series RSN
15:12:35 <pbrobinson> I think we should push rc1 before that though
15:12:42 <pbrobinson> we'll be enabling a bunch of new devices
15:12:58 <pbrobinson> and there will be, if only basic, display support for a bunch of sunxi devices
15:13:17 <dgilmore> rc1 i plan to  push this week
15:13:27 <dgilmore> then enable new boards upstream
15:13:28 <pwhalen> the sunxi stuff is looking great, kudos to them
15:13:34 <dgilmore> and get things we want in
15:13:41 <pbrobinson> kudos to primarily Hans
15:13:46 <pwhalen> indeed
15:14:12 <pbrobinson> anyway I think that mostly covers kernel/u-boot stuff. More boards, more devices..... test test test and report issues/successes
15:14:35 <pwhalen> dgilmore, perhaps send a note to the list once we've got a RC build ready for testing
15:14:40 <dgilmore> \o/
15:14:48 <dgilmore> pwhalen: will do
15:14:59 <pwhalen> #topic 3) ==== Package Status & Issues  ====
15:15:50 <pbrobinson> so there's issues with ghc on aarch64 but juhp is aware of them, he pushed a build to fix but missed that we need to re-bootstrap
15:16:09 <pbrobinson> there's a few ICEs with the new gcc5 on ARMv7 and I'm expecting some of the same on aarch64 TBH
15:16:17 <dgilmore> I fixed the arm KDE image composition this week, with the move to plasma5 it needed more disk space
15:16:28 <dgilmore> not really a package issue
15:16:44 <pbrobinson> other than that I think we're looking OK
15:17:11 <pbrobinson> we're a little bit behind at the moment due to everyone pushing all the bits in preparation for feature freeze/branching
15:17:38 <dgilmore> an issue that is out of our control
15:17:45 <pbrobinson> but most of those I believe atm are ghc packages
15:18:10 <pbrobinson> but once we get that fix landed we do get the full ghc stack and accleration on aarch64 (what ever that provides us!)
15:18:49 <pwhalen> testing f22 (20150207 latest nominated) Ive hit a few bugs that are related to chrony, caused issues with SSL certs using VNC, fails shortly after being started on the images. that should be resolved with the new kernel
15:19:10 <dgilmore> boost ghc are kinda broken on all arches
15:19:13 <dgilmore> lots of broken deps
15:19:32 <pbrobinson> yes, so the chrony issue is one that is on 32 bit platforms for both some of the 3.18 and 3.19 kernels
15:20:11 <pwhalen> ah, "cloud server" is still the default package selection from the server repo on pxe installs ... at least on text
15:20:59 <pwhalen> i thought that should have been fixed ..
15:21:33 <dgilmore> pwhalen: should be, its not a arm only issue though
15:21:53 <pwhalen> right, what i though as well. but i wanted to mention it.. will follow up after the meeting
15:22:44 <pwhalen> anyone hit any other problems?
15:22:58 <dgilmore> not yet
15:23:15 <dgilmore> pwhalen: I did enable docker on armv7hl this week
15:23:22 <dgilmore> the registry doesnt work
15:23:34 <dgilmore> but i made a base image manually and it loaded
15:23:49 <pwhalen> dgilmore, ive followed some of your chats about it
15:24:06 <dgilmore> so if people want it we will have some issues to resolve
15:24:50 <pwhalen> cool, imagine there will be some interest
15:25:08 <pwhalen> #topic 4) ==== F22 Feature Planning ====
15:25:21 <dgilmore> too late
15:25:24 <dgilmore> plan for F23
15:25:52 <pwhalen> heh, i just mentioned that to Peter, he had something he wanted to discuss i think
15:26:37 <pbrobinson> not so much actual planning
15:26:46 <pbrobinson> but more things like rel-eng enablement
15:27:21 <pbrobinson> I plan to do kvm cloud images
15:27:37 <pbrobinson> and we do need to start planning and thinking towards F-23
15:28:03 <pwhalen> agreed, we should start that, say next week?
15:28:30 <pwhalen> we do have a half hour now, up to you gents
15:29:11 <dgilmore> f23 planning next week
15:29:18 <pbrobinson> agreed
15:29:30 <pwhalen> ok, sounds good. will try and get as many folks in as possible.
15:29:56 <pwhalen> any other relengy things to discuss here?
15:30:03 <pbrobinson> not really
15:30:07 <pwhalen> #topic 5) == Open Floor ==
15:30:59 <dgilmore> only think i want to bring up is the KDE image
15:31:03 <oatley> i heard fedora might have some support for hikey already, is this correct?
15:31:20 <hrw> sorry for such late arrival
15:31:25 <dgilmore> talking to rex this week plasma5 requires 3d acceperation much like gnome shell
15:31:29 <pwhalen> howdy hrw :)
15:31:36 <pbrobinson> oatley: nope, we'll have a remix but not in mainline yet as it's not even begun to go upstream
15:31:59 <oatley> pbrobinson: ok, thanks :)
15:32:00 <pbrobinson> oatley: despite what jcm says. Although he might have a kernel somewhere
15:32:16 <hrw> pbrobinson: 96boards/hikey?
15:32:17 <oatley> haha yea, wasnt sure.
15:32:22 <pwhalen> dgilmore, if we have an image ill test it out today
15:32:32 <dgilmore> pwhalen: its in koji now
15:32:39 <pwhalen> ok, will do
15:32:45 <dgilmore> pwhalen: I really am not sure how well it will work
15:32:49 <pbrobinson> The 96boards are suppose to in their charter have upstream support..... they're off to a typical Linaro start :-/
15:33:03 <dgilmore> pwhalen: but we should test as i suspect it will be slower than KDE in f21 and older
15:33:10 <pbrobinson> dgilmore: is that KDE5?
15:33:17 <pwhalen> the gnome image works, so hopefully
15:33:44 <dgilmore> pbrobinson: just that it needs 3d and much the same support as gnome-shell and such may not work as well as in teh past
15:33:56 <dgilmore> pwhalen: yes its a bit slow though
15:33:58 <pbrobinson> so it'll be SW rendering
15:34:14 <dgilmore> we may need to limit the hardware that we recoomend it on
15:34:16 <pbrobinson> it's a start, hoping we'll get decent Tegra K1 support for F-22
15:34:33 <dgilmore> hopefully we get excellent Tegra K1 support
15:34:43 <pbrobinson> and may be even something with imx6 if only a side repo people can add
15:34:54 * pbrobinson needs more round tuits
15:34:56 <dgilmore> pwhalen: so mostly its a FYI something we need to consider
15:35:04 <yselkowitz> speaking of gnome, I've been working on gnome-flashback
15:36:14 <dgilmore> yselkowitz: what is that?
15:36:55 <yselkowitz> gnome-panel, gnome-applets, metacity, plus a new component which fills in the gaps which have been moved to gnome-shell (e.g. desktop backgrounds prev. in nautilus)
15:37:07 <hrw> yselkowitz: kind of mate?
15:37:36 <yselkowitz> more like the continuation of what mate forked from
15:38:04 <pwhalen> nice
15:38:27 <dgilmore> okay
15:38:43 <yselkowitz> https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/yselkowitz/gnome-flashback/ for f21 x86/_64
15:38:48 * dgilmore has nothing else
15:38:54 * pbrobinson doesn't either
15:39:01 <yselkowitz> unfortunately copr doesn't do armv7/aarch64 :-(
15:39:36 <pwhalen> very cool, thanks for sharing
15:39:42 <pwhalen> #endmeeting