19:01:22 <jreznik> #startmeeting F22 Final Readiness Meeting
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19:01:24 <jreznik> #meetingname f22-final-readiness-meeting
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19:01:39 <jreznik> #topic Roll Call
19:01:46 <mattdm> hello!
19:01:48 * nirik waves
19:02:28 <jreznik> hello everyone!
19:02:39 <jzb> howdy
19:02:45 <roshi> o/
19:03:27 <jreznik> #topic Purpose of this meeting
19:03:29 <jreznik> #info "Before each public release all of the groups participating the development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release is well coordinated."
19:03:30 <jreznik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings
19:03:45 <jreznik> #topic Current status
19:03:52 * jkurik is listening
19:04:39 <jreznik> the announcement went out already - we are unfortunatelly No-Go (applies for RC2) but RC3 is composing right now and we will try to test it and sign it off tomorrow
19:04:57 <dgilmore> hola jreznik
19:05:12 <jreznik> #info Fedora 22 Final is No-Go (applies for RC2) but RC3 is composing right now and we will try to test it and sign it off tomorrow (17:00 UTC)
19:05:23 <jreznik> hola dgilmore
19:06:02 <jreznik> but GA date stays the same for now, the goal is to release on Tuesday May 26th, it may change tomorrow
19:06:45 <jreznik> #info Fedora 22 Final GA is still planned for May 26th, may change tomorrow
19:06:54 <jreznik> that's for status, any questions?
19:07:16 <roshi> nope
19:07:27 <grundblom> What does GA mean?
19:07:31 <mattdm> i'm drafting a fedora magazine post for the case where we slip tomorrow
19:07:48 <striker> grundblom: general availability
19:08:03 <jreznik> thanks stickster, you were faster :)
19:08:08 * prmc is sad, wanted go status
19:08:15 <jreznik> so let's start standard round table
19:08:25 <jreznik> #topic Ambassadors
19:08:59 <grundblom> thank you striker
19:09:56 <striker> np
19:10:04 <jreznik> so I talk to sesivany on Telegram, he's not near IRC
19:10:24 <jreznik> ambassadors are ready, waiting for GA
19:10:51 <jreznik> #info ambassadors are ready, waiting for GA
19:11:13 <jreznik> #topic Design
19:11:20 <jreznik> gnokii: your turn
19:11:21 <gnokii> we are fine
19:11:58 <jreznik> #info Design is fine
19:12:21 <jreznik> is there anything anyone still needs from Design for GA?
19:12:47 <mattdm> maybe a picture for the magazine?
19:12:54 <jreznik> picture?
19:12:56 <mattdm> for the release annoucenemtn
19:13:02 <mattdm> graphic.
19:13:11 <mattdm> not picture really :)
19:13:32 <mattdm> there's not a request for this anywhere... I just thought of it right now :)
19:13:44 <gnokii> mattdm: I thought there was already made one, saw a ticket for it from you
19:13:58 <mattdm> that's for something else
19:14:03 <mattdm> at least i think it is. :)
19:14:53 <mattdm> see beta graphic at top of http://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-22-beta-released/
19:14:53 <jreznik> so what exactly it should be?
19:14:58 <mattdm> I don't think there is one for final
19:15:08 <jreznik> aha
19:15:46 <jreznik> gnokii: do you think you can still make it by Monday EOB?
19:15:49 <gnokii> mattdm: its a minutes job, lets d it after meeting
19:16:08 <jreznik> cool, thanks
19:16:42 <jreznik> #action gnokii to provide fedoramagazine picture
19:16:54 <mattdm> gnokii: thanks!
19:17:00 <jreznik> moving on to documentation
19:17:07 <jreznik> #topic Documentation
19:18:03 <jreznik> randomuser: are you around or anyone else from docs team here?
19:18:32 <grundblom> I am new on the docs team
19:18:51 <grundblom> if I can be of help
19:19:09 <jreznik> hi grundblom and welcome to docs team!
19:19:16 <randomuser> I'm lurking but not good for much more, grundblom can help
19:19:35 <jreznik> it's more like what's the status for final
19:19:54 <jreznik> one sentence - we are ready is what I want to hear from you :)
19:20:04 <jreznik> or if not, what's still missing to be done
19:20:15 <pbokoc> for docs? Sorry, I can't see the previous conversation
19:20:24 <jreznik> btw. we talked at #fedora-docs about LUC
19:20:35 <jreznik> pbokoc: hi, thanks for coming
19:21:10 <jreznik> there's nothing more above - this meeting is to take a look on status of each things, docs are now
19:21:28 <jreznik> if you're ready for final or if there's something still going on
19:21:32 <pbokoc> docs are good to go. Release Notes, Installation Guide and probably the System Administrator's Guide can be published on the docs portal the moment F22 final release is released
19:22:03 <jreznik> #info docs are good to go. Release Notes, Installation Guide and probably the System Administrator's Guide can be published on the docs portal the moment F22 final release is released
19:22:15 <jreznik> pbokoc: thanks, that's exactly what I was looking for
19:22:17 <pbokoc> possibly a few more guides (SELinux Guide, Multiboot Guide) - that alone makes us more ready than we were for F21 :)
19:22:33 <jreznik> awesome!
19:22:53 <jreznik> who's going to be around for the final push to docs portal?
19:23:11 <pbokoc> I'm hoping randomuser will be
19:23:25 <randomuser> ack
19:23:29 <jreznik> ok
19:23:49 <jreznik> #info possibly a few more guides (SELinux Guide, Multiboot Guide)
19:24:07 <jreznik> #Info randomuser to be around for final docs push
19:24:18 <jreznik> thanks pbokoc, randomuser, grundblom!
19:24:31 <pbokoc> np
19:24:56 <jreznik> I already touched LUC - it was removed from F21+ docs in case we will need it
19:25:29 <jreznik> moving on
19:25:32 <jreznik> #topic FESCo
19:25:41 <jreznik> nirik: anything from FESCo?
19:25:54 <nirik> nope. I think we are clear for release.
19:26:19 <jreznik> #info FESCo is clear for release
19:26:29 <jreznik> thanks
19:26:31 <jreznik> #topic Fedora Engineering Manager
19:26:42 <jreznik> stickster: and anything from you?
19:26:46 <pbokoc> 461097
19:26:51 <pbokoc> my bad :)
19:27:08 <stickster> jreznik: Nothing additional from me
19:27:09 <jreznik> pbokoc: personal PIN pls :)
19:27:33 <jreznik> #info nothing additional from Fedora Engineering Manager
19:27:40 <jreznik> ok, thanks, moving on
19:27:51 <jreznik> #topic Marketing
19:28:09 <jreznik> jzb, mattdm of final announcement?
19:28:35 <jzb> jreznik: still fiddling with bits, but it will be ready
19:29:03 <jreznik> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F22_Final_release_announcement
19:29:11 <jreznik> #info Release announcement will be ready
19:29:30 <mattdm> jzb++
19:29:33 <mattdm> thanks for helping
19:29:36 <jreznik> as Monday is Memorial Day in the US, do you need help with text formatting/magazine post?
19:29:37 <mattdm> having writers block :)
19:29:53 * jreznik will take a look too tomorrow :)
19:30:06 <jzb> jreznik: I wouldn't say no...
19:30:29 <jzb> jreznik: though I may be able to do that tomorrow if we lock the text before then.
19:30:57 <jreznik> ok, in case you'd need me available on Monday, ping me and I can help
19:31:44 <jzb> jreznik: will do - and thanks!
19:32:05 <jzb> In general, I would say (and probably say this every time)
19:32:32 <jzb> we need more help with release prep in marketing. We could do much more than we do, but very few folks step up to take on marketing tasks.
19:32:45 <jzb> e.g. - magazine articles about features, helping with social media, etc.
19:32:52 <jzb> EOF
19:33:14 <mattdm> #help general call for more release prep in marketing
19:33:25 <mattdm> #help magazine articles about features, helping with social media, etc.
19:33:43 <jreznik> so mattdm was faster than me, thanks :)
19:34:04 <jreznik> #topic Infrastructure
19:34:09 <mattdm> #info if you use #help, that goes into fedmsg, and we're going to make a collector for those to automatically feed http://whatcanidoforfedora.org/
19:34:19 <mattdm> #info end off-topic comments :)
19:34:26 <jreznik> mattdm: wow, awesome!
19:34:40 * jreznik will use help for everything now :)
19:34:49 <jreznik> nirik: again you
19:35:01 <nirik> we should be all set. ;)
19:35:16 <nirik> fixed up a translation issue with websites this morning, and they are looking ok otherwise.
19:35:33 <roshi> that's going to get abused :p ie, "@help get me a sandwich" :P
19:35:56 <jreznik> #info Infrastructure should be all set, fixed up a translation issue with websites this morning
19:35:58 <jreznik> roshi: :)
19:36:04 <jreznik> #topic QA
19:36:12 <jreznik> roshi: now you can ask for help!
19:36:27 <roshi> we're not ready for obvious reasons :) going to be hero testing tonight
19:37:14 <jreznik> #info QA is not ready as there's still release validation going on; heroe testing night
19:37:39 <jreznik> maybe we can use help here or is it too short term for whatcanidoforfedora?
19:38:27 <jreznik> #topic Release Engineering
19:38:33 <jreznik> dgilmore: your turn
19:40:35 <dgilmore> we are not close to ready
19:40:37 <dgilmore> :D
19:40:45 <dgilmore> we will be fine
19:40:53 <dgilmore> RC3 is underway
19:40:56 <jreznik> anything else than waiting for gold images?
19:41:04 <jreznik> #infor RC3 is underway
19:41:05 <dgilmore> we will do what is needed to make sure everything is shipped
19:41:10 <stickster> :-D
19:41:22 <jreznik> #info releng will do what is needed to make sure everything is shipped
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19:41:42 <jreznik> #info RC3 is underway
19:41:52 <jreznik> #info releng will do what is needed to make sure everything is shipped
19:41:57 <jreznik> ok, thanks
19:42:41 <jreznik> #topic Websites
19:42:47 <jreznik> robyduck: are you around?
19:42:59 <robyduck> Websites are set, not only getfedora
19:43:16 <robyduck> we have 3 new websites this time and all are looking fine in testing
19:43:29 <jreznik> robyduck++
19:43:29 <zodbot> jreznik: Karma for robyduck changed to 10:  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
19:43:40 <robyduck> so whenever we'll have a GOLD image we'll be ready :)
19:44:04 <jreznik> #info Websites are set, we have 3 new websites this time and all are looking fine in testing
19:44:10 <robyduck> we would need AMI IDs ASAP this time
19:44:23 <robyduck> (once we have a GOLD RC)
19:44:32 <jreznik> that means how asap?
19:44:43 <jreznik> roshi, mattdm ^^^
19:44:55 <robyduck> oddshocks' turn
19:44:59 <mattdm> oddshocks, are you on the hook for that? :)
19:45:07 <roshi> oddshocks will take care of that with fedimg
19:45:15 <robyduck> \o/
19:45:18 * oddshocks is in a scheduled BlueJeans conference with many others, sorry
19:45:24 <robyduck> cool, /me likes fedimg
19:45:25 <jreznik> ah, oddshocks is here too - sorry :)
19:45:43 <jreznik> oddshocks: just head ups we will need it
19:45:56 <oddshocks> I will definitely provide robyduck with the AMI IDs for the site when we have that gold RC
19:46:02 * oddshocks hopes that's what we were talking about
19:46:09 <jreznik> oddshocks: yep, thanks
19:46:11 <robyduck> thanks oddshocks
19:46:33 <jreznik> #action oddshocks to provide robyduck with the AMI IDs for the site when we have that gold RC
19:46:43 <jreznik> anything else for websites?
19:46:54 * jreznik is getting ready for websites QA :)
19:47:48 <jreznik> I don't see noriko here, so skipping translations - will try offline
19:47:49 <robyduck> no all fine thanks
19:47:53 <jreznik> thanks robyduck
19:48:00 <jreznik> #topic Open floor
19:48:22 <jreznik> so I hope I did not forget something :) anything else?
19:48:40 * roshi has nothing
19:48:54 * mattdm gets ready to help test that rc3 :)
19:48:56 <gnokii> jreznik: for the action, there was a ticket its #355, its done now
19:49:08 <mattdm> gnokii++
19:49:50 <jreznik> btw this is my last readiness meeting as FPGM - thanks everyone for all that support during last three years and doing great job getting ready for releases!
19:49:59 <mattdm> jreznik Thank you!
19:50:01 <mattdm> jreznik++
19:50:03 <jzb> jreznik: what?
19:50:09 <robyduck> jreznik: uh?
19:50:12 <roshi> huh?
19:50:17 <mattdm> jreznik is fired!
19:50:20 <sgallagh> jreznik++
19:50:26 <robyduck> jreznik++
19:50:31 <mattdm> (not really)
19:50:34 <jzb> jreznik: I didn't say you could quit :-)
19:50:38 <stickster> jreznik: I already gave you a cookie but jreznik++ anyway :-)
19:50:45 <jreznik> there will be announcement coming soon - you could see jkurik sending F23 changes, he's your new hero :)
19:50:50 <jzb> jreznik++ as well
19:51:03 <mattdm> seriously jreznik thank you for all your hard work!
19:51:10 <nirik> jreznik: thanks, and hope you are moving on to something fun. :)
19:51:23 <stickster> jreznik: You've helped a lot of things stay organized over many releases. You are a superstar!
19:51:25 <jreznik> hey, you can't get rid of me that easy!
19:51:28 <roshi> yeah, thanks for all the work! :)
19:51:47 <stickster> jreznik: Once you're in, you're never out
19:52:12 <jreznik> stickster: exactly!
19:52:45 <jreznik> so thank you everyone and thank you for coming today, let's hope we'll make F22 tomorrow!
19:52:53 <nirik> fingers crossed.
19:53:00 <jreznik> so far we have nice reviews for F22, it's going to be great release!
19:53:36 <jkurik> jreznik: you are not out yet; I am going to ask a lot of questions during F23 - be ready :)
19:53:50 * jreznik hides!
19:55:23 <jreznik> so I'm going to take some rest to be ready for RC3, as sgallagh said earlier, use that time too - it's going to be long night
19:55:26 <jreznik> 3...
19:55:40 <roshi> yep - same here :)
19:55:44 <roshi> see you all in a few hours
19:56:26 <jreznik> 2...
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19:57:27 <jreznik> thanks again!
19:57:30 <jreznik> #endmeeting