17:03:47 #startmeeting CommOps 17:03:47 Meeting started Tue Nov 17 17:03:47 2015 UTC. The chair is decause. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:03:47 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:04:50 #topic Agenda 17:05:03 #link http://etherpad.osuosl.org/commops-111715 17:05:26 #chair jflory7 threebean lmacken mattdm 17:05:26 Current chairs: decause jflory7 lmacken mattdm threebean 17:05:34 #topic RollCall 17:05:42 .hellomynameis jflory7 17:05:43 jflory7: jflory7 'Justin W. Flory' 17:05:51 .hello decause 17:05:52 decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' 17:06:23 #info Justin W. Flory , UTC-5, CommOps / Marketing / Ambassadors / Join SIG 17:06:57 hello all 17:07:01 #info decasue, UTC-5, Commops/Council/Ambassadors/Mktg/AllTheThings 17:07:06 descientist: welcome :) 17:07:12 Hey descientist! 17:07:47 hey there . 17:07:57 Moving forward 17:08:02 * decause gives folks a few extra minutes 17:08:48 .hello dmossor 17:08:49 danofsatx: dmossor 'Dan Mossor' 17:09:26 #info danofsatx, UTC-6, Ambassadors, interested in other components 17:09:54 welcome welcome :) 17:10:00 Welcome, danofsatx! 17:10:52 ok 17:11:02 other folks can intro themselves when they arrive :) 17:11:07 * mailga around 17:11:08 Sounds good. 17:11:12 #topic Outreachy 17:11:15 Hey mailga! 17:11:17 .hello keekri 17:11:18 keekri: keekri 'Keerthana Krishnan' 17:11:55 Today in theory is the day that applicants are officially selected. Outreachy applicants keep an eye on your inboxen. I've got some last minute wrangling to do with the other mentors, but you should be hearing something soon. 17:12:06 hello jflory7 decause keekri and all the people I don't know as far. 17:12:20 Hey mailga! 17:12:29 #topic WikiGardening 17:12:41 I saw some updates to the toolbox from descientist 17:12:43 descientist++ 17:13:03 and yesterday, bee2502 got a shoutout at the council meeting from jkurik on her work on the Elections Wiki Page! 17:13:04 Yeah last week telegram related . 17:13:07 nice job folks 17:13:08 Magazine Tips list is also added up top with the other mailing lists now. 17:13:12 I saw that as well! 17:13:13 jflory7++ 17:13:14 bee2502++ 17:13:24 good work everyone 17:13:27 jflory7++ 17:13:32 We'll have more updating to do in the near future 17:13:35 bee2502++ 17:13:35 keekri: Karma for bee2502 changed to 4 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:13:43 descientist++ 17:13:44 keekri: Karma for descientist changed to 2 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:13:45 (such as the Py3PvFAD) 17:13:56 Definitely. 17:13:57 (details to come on that soon) 17:14:06 #action newmembers Update your lisitng on CommOps Wiki 17:14:11 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps 17:14:20 that about does it for Wiki things 17:14:24 going once 17:14:26 going twice 17:14:29 going thrice 17:14:29 Speaking of wiki, can we discuss about the trac and election wiki 17:14:34 keekri: good catch! 17:14:38 yes, let's talk about it 17:14:39 :D 17:14:51 keekri: what's up? 17:15:06 I've looked through both of them. 17:15:13 oh i was doing my update and got some other work and forgot to add up 17:15:24 will do tonight 17:16:04 There's a bit of content to create/ update go through, and I'm kinda in the middle of my own university exams right now so I can't put in as much time as I want to. 17:16:37 Since election is higher priority, I thought I would complete that first 17:16:45 nod nod nod 17:16:47 *update/go through 17:17:17 Trac is a "green field" content (not time sensitive) so I wouldn't prioritize that. I reckon cprofitt is also working on trac related things too. 17:17:20 keekri++ 17:17:20 descientist: Karma for keekri changed to 5 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:17:30 How do you guys propose we move forward with it ? 17:17:46 keekri: I believe there is a thread on the commops list with jkurik about moving forward with the election 17:18:04 I think the election tasks/timeline have been updated, so we should give that a harder look and come up with an agenda 17:18:35 cprofitt linked to a bunch of very useful information for elections in Ubuntu land that is worth taking a look at (not sure if it was IRC or mail-list tho) 17:19:02 decause: I think I missed that mail. I'll check it and reply to that then 17:19:23 #action keekri follow-up with jkurik about updating elections wiki page, cc decause and commops list 17:19:26 keekri++ 17:19:28 ok 17:19:33 any other wiki related biz? 17:19:34 going once 17:19:36 going twice 17:19:37 Ok, got it! 17:19:39 going thrice 17:19:39 are you talking about this page? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections 17:19:57 mailga: yep 17:20:03 #link 17:20:04 ok, thx 17:20:09 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections 17:20:15 ok 17:20:17 next topic 17:20:29 i don't what is the election is about ..!! 17:20:36 #topic CommBlog 17:20:47 descientist: check out the wiki page, it has all the seats and details there :) 17:20:55 and CommBlog has a role to play this year! 17:21:01 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fedora-elections-novemberdecember-2015/ 17:21:12 we're the place where nominees are going to post their answers to the interview questions! 17:21:35 I'm checking the link now 17:21:36 pretty exciting for us to be helping Fedora in such a massively public way :) 17:21:40 * mailga thinks to self-nominate for Famsco seat 17:21:59 Definitely!! 17:22:07 go mailga!! 17:22:08 That should help bring a lot more eyes and notice to the CommBlog. 17:22:24 Also, this URL specifically will be useful for consolidating election-related articles: 17:22:26 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/tag/elections/ 17:22:38 All articles related to the upcoming election cycle should definitely use that tag 17:23:03 hmm 17:23:04 if mailga's running we can get an easy interview for commblog ;) 17:23:13 #info CommBlog will be where candidate interviews are officially posted and shared with Fedora Community 17:23:27 #action decause look into whether or not FAMSco elections are actually a thing... 17:23:45 keekri: you can start to think about questions..... Also not-confortable questions. 17:23:59 Woah . So many questions :D 17:24:01 Ooh, where was that link for questions too, that was a useful one- 17:24:05 haha.. will do! 17:24:05 it looks like bee2502 is the one who added FAMSCo elections, but FAMSCo is now inactive, and has been for almost a year 17:24:51 decause: is famsco still pending? 17:24:53 mailga: we'll have to talk about this more, I know there was a suggestion of holding FAMSCo elections for F24 on the list, but there weren't any responses 17:25:19 mailga: I'm not against it, but right now, there wasn't planned to be a FAMSCo election necessarily 17:25:28 uh.. if it's inactive, will there be elections for it ? Who can we ask to clarify ? 17:25:28 even though the wiki says so... 17:25:55 keekri: the famsco list, me, mattdm 17:26:17 keekri: for now, we should add some kind of "pending" disclaimer to the wiki 17:26:20 This month main focus is on elections ? 17:26:22 #info Elections Questionnaire is source of questions that might appear on CommBlog interviews - recommended to review questions, possibly add some too 17:26:24 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections/Questionnaire 17:26:26 (I guess we weren't done talking about the wiki afterall) 17:26:38 Will add the pending 17:26:39 decause: yes I know. But I din't see a clear answer about the famsco breakup. 17:26:58 mailga: it is because it sort of quietly stopped moving 17:27:12 mailga: there haven't been meetings in many months 17:27:12 #action keekri add the pending note to the FAMsCo wiki 17:27:18 keekri: thanks 17:27:28 Hey, no probs! 17:27:33 ok 17:27:45 #info Status unclear about FAmSCo elections, pending note being added to wiki article while information is clarified 17:28:03 CommBlog will def be a big part of Election Season in Fedora-land, so we've got quite a few articles to draft 17:28:10 and/or help edit 17:28:13 decacause there are some activities that a ambassador commitee shold manage. IMHO. Council is a too high structure. 17:28:31 #info November 17-23: Nomination period open (closes promptly at 23:59:00 UTC on November 23rd) 17:28:37 s/decacause/decause 17:29:08 jflory7: we should *def* put up a post announcing this today/tonight (I'm pointing in your direction as de-facto Editor) 17:29:17 * jflory7 nods 17:29:23 * mailga still have to heard something about FOSCo.. 17:29:31 jflory7: it can be super simple, pointing at a link 17:29:47 That reminds me. 17:30:01 mailga: FOSCo (in name) is not a thing either. See the "Budget.next" thread on Ambassador list 17:30:04 * decause digs up link 17:30:13 Have we though about getting badges for contribution to commblog? 17:30:17 #action jflory7 draft up announcement regarding Fedora Election interviews appearing on CommBlog this cycle (to be drafted ASAP) 17:30:22 decause: tnx. 17:30:25 keekri: Indeed, there are actually some tickets for it now! 17:30:51 jflory7: Could you put a link to that ? 17:31:00 #link https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2015-November/023982.html 17:31:05 Yup, just was digging for it: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/414 17:31:30 mailga: that has the relevant details 17:31:36 mailga: there is also: 17:31:49 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Budget.next 17:31:53 * keekri gives thumbs up 17:32:53 jflory7: There is also a possible "I voted" badge too 17:32:58 keekri: I'm not sure where the Design Team is right now in terms of badges, so it may be a while before it ends up appearing, but it should hopefully be in the works! :) 17:33:05 decause: Ooohhh, yeah, I remember that discussion from the ML 17:33:11 That would be a fun badge too 17:33:37 That's fine. We can wait. 17:33:37 anyone here interested in Badges as one of their areas? We can file a ticket for it on the trac, with the caveats we've discussed in IRC 17:33:55 (Must not be awarded in real-time, but awarded batch after-the-fact) 17:34:11 decause: Me! But only after December 7th.. Exams till then :( 17:34:22 keekri: that should be fine 17:34:31 * decause checks elections wiki page 17:34:33 Ok then! :D 17:34:54 * mailga got some question about budget.next info. Trying to figure out more. tnx decause, I miss this page. 17:34:54 #info December 08: Results announcement for Fedora Elections 17:35:08 mailga: no problem, the conversation is still ongoing 17:35:21 decause: ok 17:35:42 keekri: all we gotta do is file the ticket for it, and we'll work with the design team to get the content delivered by the 8th 17:35:50 keekri: Might be a good idea to add a ticket to the Fedora Badges Trac in the meanwhile to get it into the design queue. :) https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ 17:35:52 Ninja'd. 17:36:00 jflory7++ 17:36:03 keekri++ 17:36:07 keekri++ 17:36:13 ok 17:36:15 moar commblog 17:36:16 Speaking of commblog, I think I'm gonna file a ticket to put a login button in the nav bar. 17:36:24 Ooh 17:36:34 #info Cross-channel posting for F21 EoL is due today 17:36:48 I think I could actually do that as a temporary action until we get the straight-to-FAS ticket arranged 17:37:01 I've got a draft in Magazine, but we'll need to do a link-post to it on commblog once published 17:37:02 I still scroll down to the first article which has a link to the login 17:37:12 jflory7: not sure if I told anyone about it tho 17:37:22 pfrields should have gotten a pong 17:37:37 #action decause pong pfrields with EoL draft review request 17:37:56 #info Badges: CommBlog contributor badges are in-progress; also looking at getting a "I voted!" badge to help boost participation, keekri to file ticket with Fedora Badges Trac 17:38:01 keekri: I just add "/wp-admin" to the end of the URL... 17:38:15 :P 17:38:20 a button would be nice 17:38:44 jflory7: we'll hit the mktg list today 17:38:52 decause: As for the F21 EoL, I can help revise that to get it out tomorrow morning, although I think it's pretty short if I recall, so shouldn't be much time. I can help expedite that if you want. 17:38:56 and another big one for us 17:39:15 jflory7: just making sure it is on pfrields' radar is good, he's ready to edit 17:39:25 but another set of eyes wouldn't hurt 17:39:28 :) 17:39:31 the big one 17:39:33 another one 17:39:35 decause: Definitely, if he's already on it then it should be good. 17:39:53 I think a login button for the CommBlog is a good idea because unlike the Magazine, it's highly geared towards community participation for writing, so I will look into if that could be added 17:40:00 I also just add /wp-admin/ when logging in, lol 17:40:01 #info CommBlog will be announcing a 2nd Call for FLOCK Bids! 17:40:12 ^ definitely a big one 17:40:36 this is a time-sensitive-ish thing, so probably wanna make this post happen before the end of the week, and promote it widely on all the channels 17:40:54 #action jflory7 look into adding a "Login" button to navbar of CommBlog - if not doable, go to Trac/ML 17:41:02 it may be something for magazine too, at least for cross-post 17:41:07 decause: Do we have a representative from the Flock planning list who might be interested in drafting? 17:41:15 I know there were talks about it being handed off from Ruth 17:41:21 But I didn't catch who exactly it was going to 17:41:28 sorry had to take a phone call 17:41:48 Might be a good idea for whoever it's going to to take point on that article to help establish him or herself as the "lead" for Flock planning. 17:41:51 No worries, keekri! 17:41:58 jflory7: nod nod nod. We should post to the list seeing if anyone volunteers, but ultimately, i think we'll just be taking the original announcment/call for bids, and updating it, and adding FLOCK logo as a featured pic. 17:42:15 jflory7: it should probably be me then ;) 17:42:16 :) This saved me from filing a ticket... 17:42:36 Uh.. what's FLOCK? 17:42:40 keekri: :) 17:42:50 https://flocktofedora.org 17:42:53 decause: Ahhh, hahah. Then yeah, might be a good idea for you to have that publishing glory. ;) 17:42:56 #link https://flocktofedora.org 17:42:59 http://www.flocktofedora.org/ 17:43:05 damn, ya beat me to it 17:43:19 * danofsatx was hoping he could actually contribute to the conversation ;) 17:43:28 oooph... guru meditation errors... 17:43:31 FLOCK = awesome :P (a.k.a. official Fedora contributor conference held annually) 17:43:31 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock 17:43:44 ooh.. nice.. 17:43:45 for North America/Europe 17:43:49 ^ right 17:43:55 oh. damn. 17:44:00 wrong continent 17:44:02 there are also Premier Regional events in LATAM/APAC 17:44:14 keekri: there is a FUDCon APAC :) 17:44:15 a.k.a. FUDcons 17:44:18 it was in Pune last year 17:44:55 cool! gotta check that out then. 17:45:19 Want to take the #action on that one, decause? 17:45:47 jflory7: yeah, we should file a ticket with the IRC convo (this may require some public discussion, FLOCK is a big deal) 17:45:55 Sounds good, our Trac? 17:46:02 jflory7: nod nod 17:46:19 Cool. I can file that ticket after meeting 17:46:23 jflory7++ 17:46:25 super thank you 17:46:36 we can then post to the planning list with it after 17:46:47 #action jflory7 after meeting, file ticket on Trac to prime discussion about FLOCK Call for Bids article on CommBlog 17:47:04 #action commops post FLOCK call for bids ticket to planning list 17:47:17 * decause high-fives jflory7 17:47:21 ok 17:47:26 * jflory7 returns high-five! 17:47:28 One last thing-- 17:47:30 Quick one-- 17:47:36 kk 17:47:39 I have one too 17:47:43 If no objections, I'd like to publish the G11n FAD article on Thursday 17:47:49 +1 17:47:49 While still hot 17:48:11 #action jflory7 Schedule G11n FAD article for Thursday morning 17:48:31 I'd like to get permission from mstuchli to repost his content on the Py3PvFAD to commblog as well, with some addtional graphs/metrics from fedmsg: 17:48:38 #link http://synfo.github.io/2015/11/16/Python3-Porting-Day/ 17:48:56 the vFAD was quite successful 17:48:58 :) 17:49:06 def looking to do more of those in the future 17:49:07 +1! 17:49:26 He's still in channel, could probably poke him there before he heads in his TZ. :) 17:49:31 * heads out 17:49:39 jflory7: solid 17:49:44 I can also ask him for you if you're slammed 17:49:59 jflory7: please, IRC ping should be fine (he was in commops yesterday) 17:50:09 Yep, still there now, I'll actually just ping now 17:50:28 anything else commblog? 17:50:31 going once 17:50:33 going twice 17:50:35 going thrice 17:50:50 #topic 5tftw 17:51:07 mattdm is back, but if we have things to contribute, we should get them into the etherpad asap 17:51:26 #link https://www.piratepad.ca/p/5tftw 17:51:38 Hopefully this week should be covered 17:51:49 jflory7++ 17:51:53 Lotsa good info in there right now 17:51:59 nod nod nod, looks chock full 17:52:03 nice work 17:52:13 hopefully we can link to the EoL draft in Magazine too 17:52:23 good good 17:52:23 Definitely. 17:52:29 that is all I got for 5tftw 17:52:32 * jflory7 notices eight minutes on the clock 17:52:35 Same from me 17:52:42 #topic plumbing 17:52:59 plumbing = infrastructure-y things 17:53:05 #info plumbing = infrastructure-y things 17:53:10 so, what I got: 17:53:10 Hooking up email posting to commblog 17:53:11 Hooking up IFTTT pipes for commblog -> twitter, other places 17:53:12 Turning on JetPack Plugins in CommBlog 17:53:33 I'd like to get email posting turned on, so we can start auto-posting meeting word clouds from wordcloudbot 17:53:53 wordcloudbot has really simple open ticket too, for any python hackers amongst us 17:54:23 #action jflory7 create repost of mstuchli's article summing up Py3FAD for CommBlog 17:54:33 (wordcloudbot fails when the tweets are >140 chars, and it just needs some try/except or other validation) 17:54:33 decause: I think the emailstuff is shared interest of the Magazine too 17:54:41 Ticket in the Trac right now about emailstuff being broken 17:54:49 jflory7: word word 17:55:04 As for Jetpack plugin, what needs to be done in that regard? 17:55:08 yeah, it'd be great to get some auto-posting stuff in Magazine Land too if they want it 17:55:08 As far as I know, it's on 17:55:14 jflory7: not on commblog? 17:55:23 I think so. 17:55:31 * jflory7 shuffles through tabs 17:55:32 maybe I just am not wordpressing correctly :P 17:55:36 https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/wp-admin/admin.php?page=jetpack 17:55:46 All the site stat goodies are there too 17:56:30 Looks like it should be easy job to hook up IFTTT hooks for CommBlog too, not sure who has all the necessary keys 17:59:48 um... guys ? You there ? 17:59:50 decause: One minute left on the clock, wanted to ask before I forget, but how difficult is it to administer a Trac to set up milestones / components / templates / etc.? If it's not something complicated to sort in the infra, I'd be down to knock that out late this week, especially if some more eyes will be on there. 18:00:19 Uh-oh. 18:00:23 lol! 18:00:24 jflory7: What would we do without you ?? 18:00:40 decause: Nooo.. where are you going ??? 18:00:55 Looks like a timeout with freenode or something. 18:01:09 Well, since we're at the end of the line, may just move to move forward 18:01:15 Erm.. yeah 18:01:34 #action decause Pick up discussion about CommBlog plugins / IFTTT either in mailing list or in IRC 18:01:35 Anything else we gotta discuss ? 18:01:37 #topic Open Floor 18:01:49 Oh good. 18:01:52 Ahh, made it back! 18:01:53 netsplit? 18:02:09 Seems like it - I #action'd you about WP plugin stuff to discuss either in IRC or ML 18:02:15 Did you get my last message before disconnect? 18:02:36 jflory7: nope 18:02:37 decause: One minute left on the clock, wanted to ask before I forget, but how difficult is it to administer a Trac to set up milestones / components / templates / etc.? If it's not something complicated to sort in the infra, I'd be down to knock that out late this week, especially if some more eyes will be on there. 18:02:41 hit the up key a few times 18:02:53 * decause can add you as an admin maybe? 18:03:01 #action decause add jflory as a trac admin 18:03:06 anyone else? 18:03:14 Sounds good to me. 18:03:26 ok then 18:03:29 decause+ 18:03:36 if anyone wants to help admin trac, just holler 18:03:42 Not sure what mailga's experience with Trac is, he probably is more familiar with it than me so if he's up for it, he may be a good candidate too. 18:03:51 Not to put more on his plate if he doesn't want it, though :) 18:04:09 CommOps is helping with some Flagship Fedora initiatives now, and it is all thanks to you folks and your contributions :) 18:04:12 jflory7: your consideration in me is too high.... 18:04:29 I'm really excited to continue building the CommOps team, and for the increased activity that will come with our Outreachy plans :) 18:04:40 mailga: you have a good few years up on me. ;) 18:04:42 decause++ 18:04:47 good work everyone, and I'll see you back in our home channel 18:04:48 Definitely, this is really exciting work!! 18:04:55 Thanks all :) 18:04:56 decause: We're all excited! 18:05:00 #endmeeting