16:00:24 #startmeeting Fedora ARM & AArch64 Status Meeting 16:00:25 Meeting started Tue Nov 17 16:00:24 2015 UTC. The chair is pwhalen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:25 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:25 #chair pwhalen bconoboy pbrobinson dgilmore hrw jsmith dmarlin 16:00:25 Current chairs: bconoboy dgilmore dmarlin hrw jsmith pbrobinson pwhalen 16:00:48 good morning everyone 16:00:53 * pbrobinson waves 16:00:55 whos here today? 16:01:03 o/ 16:03:31 #topic 1) ==== Package Status & Issues ==== 16:03:41 how do we look this week? 16:03:49 systemd 227 crash: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1282392 16:03:53 not that great, big one is python3 boot strap 16:04:06 #info systemd 227 crash: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1282392 16:04:28 I need to clean some of the core bits up I've just not had the time, that should then unblock us to move on 16:04:35 hi 16:04:41 morning dgilmore 16:04:44 python3... ~curse lack of libpythonX.Y* package 16:05:20 to build gdb we need gdb which needs libpython3.4m which is no longer present 16:05:40 hrw: yes, I know, I know also how to fix it 16:05:50 pbrobinson: cool, thanks 16:05:57 #info Big issue in progress is python3 boot strap. pbrobinson to clean some of the core bits that should unblock us. 16:06:49 anything else worth mentioning? 16:07:17 not really that I'm aware of 16:07:50 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1279285 for those who want virtualization under 4.4-rc kernels 16:08:17 virt network needs editing until fix get into mainline 16:08:25 hrw: we'll test this closer now RC1 is out, although we need to catch up some userspace fixes to fix the kernel here 16:08:40 sure 16:09:01 #topic 2) ==== Kernel Status ==== 16:09:25 so 4.4rc1 is out, please test on ARMv7, should land for aarch64 this week 16:10:16 #info Latest kernel-4.4.0-0.rc1.git0.1.fc24 16:10:23 a u-boot 2015.10 was built for F-23 today, not in updates-testing yet but please test and highlight any issues 16:10:29 #link http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=699753 16:10:38 u-boot 2016.01rc1 should be built soon 16:10:45 in rawhide 16:10:57 uboot is next topic 16:11:12 meh ;-) 16:11:28 4.4.0-0.rc0.git5.1.fc24.aarch64 failed to boot on the mustang 16:11:53 pwhalen: boots in qemu 16:12:06 any logs/messages 16:12:06 I am still on 4.3 on mustang 16:12:14 http://paste.fedoraproject.org/291468/76710144/ 16:12:17 yea, was getting it 16:12:54 oh jesus 16:13:15 looks like in the blk stuff, there was some recent fixes for that, please retest when rc1 lands 16:13:32 yea, will do.. 16:14:28 #topic 3) ==== Uboot Status ==== 16:14:44 ^^^^ 16:14:56 a u-boot 2015.10 was built for F-23 today, not in updates-testing yet but please test and highlight any issues 16:15:08 u-boot 2016.01rc1 should be built soon in rawide 16:15:16 so far, looks good on the bpi.. wandboard has some issues 16:16:06 small issues, conflicting variable name for pxe boot name.. also an fdt issue when doing pxe as wlel 16:16:38 yes, so that's expected, a bunch of distro-defaults boot stuff landed upstream for some boards so we might have a bit of flex here 16:16:52 #info please test and report issues to the list, on freenode or file a BZ. 16:17:03 the fdt issue is the existing one or a new one? 16:17:09 im likely the only person to hit them 16:17:16 existing.. was just hoping itd be fixed 16:17:29 the pxe is just sloppy, so noones using it 16:17:45 pwhalen: we fixed mmc1 booting on wandboard, you don't get all the cookies at once! 16:18:14 im going to inundate you guys with BZs :) 16:18:51 what EVAH!!! :-D 16:19:06 #topic 4) ==== F24 Feature Requests/Ideas ==== 16:19:08 :) 16:19:17 have we thought about this anymore? 16:19:25 yes! 16:19:27 32-on-64 was on list 16:19:28 Cookies! 16:19:46 cookies with salmiak! 16:19:54 hrw: I have 32-on-64 working, it's not pretty, December is when I get time to clean it up 16:20:07 32 on 64 is working pretty good, ive been using a beefy 8 core 12G vm on the mustang 16:20:11 docker and qemu ( cloud) images are also on my list 16:20:18 wow! 16:20:23 its pretty 16:20:56 by hand or via libvirt tools? 16:21:11 hrw: I'm working so we have have a u-boot "firmware" (like x86/aarch64) so there doesn't need to be kernels/initrds copied around 16:21:24 hrw: it's libvirt with a bunch of ugly 16:21:42 pbrobinson: u-boot instead of uefi to get properly licensed firmware? 16:21:45 nice 16:21:50 pbrobinson, im thinking theres limitations with that.. as it seems anyways in my testing 16:21:57 hrw: no uEFI on 32bit at the moment, we support u-boot well there 16:22:11 ah, right. my fault 16:22:18 pwhalen: I have ideas about your limitations.... we're thinking this out wrong IMO 16:22:43 pwhalen: I think we need to use a vexpress 64 bit u-boot and use it to boot the 32 bit kernel 16:22:55 not a A9 or A15 u-boot 16:23:00 interesting.. ok.. i can try that 16:23:33 we don't need to emulate 32 bit from that perspective I believe 16:23:50 I might well be wrong but this meeting isn't the spot to discuss details 16:24:02 i think i see what youre saying, worth a shot anyways 16:24:31 any other features we'd like to see ? 16:25:05 other than those from 2 weeks ago? 16:25:25 I've got on my list 16:25:30 1) 32on64 16:25:36 I wonder how NVidia TX1 looks when it comes to support 16:25:37 2) docker/qemu on aarch64 16:25:44 3) CHIIP device support 16:25:57 4) hopeful Xorg acceleration improvemenets 16:26:20 the tx1 looks very nice, but.. that price 16:26:23 cursory look seemed to indicate TX1 was uboot based 16:26:24 5) the new systemd usb stuff for things like serial/net over usb OTG ports 16:26:37 mgalogci: it is 16:26:39 6) Moonshot M400, 7) raspberry/pi2? 16:27:05 hrw@ 6 is already in motion with a bunch of people working on it and we know the time frame etc 16:27:57 the 7) will depend on upstream support. I know there's been a bunch of "OMG a drm driver has landed upstream" shit on sites this week but it's of no fucking use if you can' actually boot the fucker 16:29:15 also new devices enablement of of various kinds and solidifying the support we have 16:29:33 oh and sensors support..... lots and lots of sensors 16:30:22 any one with anything else? 16:30:36 nothing came to mind 16:31:15 youve covered most of them..i think anyways. increased remixes for hw we cant support 16:32:09 but let not add 'remix builder tool' ;D 16:32:14 oh and a general "96boards" improved support if reasonably possible 16:32:44 hrw, your blog was great, led to some good discussion on their list 16:32:56 I'd like to add "u-boot on aarch64 support" but I'd need someone to run with that, I really don't have the cycles to commit 16:32:57 pwhalen: which one? 16:33:12 on the 96boards public list 16:33:16 will look 16:34:14 https://lists.96boards.org/pipermail/dev/2015-November/000524.html 16:35:31 ok, anything else for f24? 16:35:48 not from me 16:36:17 #topic 5) == Open Floor == 16:37:52 I got roseapple/pi board. 16:38:03 plan to get it booted with some remix and then complain on blog 16:38:12 hrw: cool, does it boot anything? 16:38:20 pbrobinson: there is f21 remix 16:38:21 same, ive not played with it yet.. well, i tried that f21 image but it didnt boot.. 16:38:31 3.10.37 kernel ;( 16:38:51 diff was ~60MB size 16:39:11 hrw: do you have it booted? can you send me a dmesg/lsmod? 16:39:39 pbrobinson: not yet 16:40:03 hrw: ping me when you do, there is a little upstream support for that vendor/SoC 16:40:13 ok 16:40:33 pwhalen: anything else on the agenda? 16:40:48 nope, was abhout to close it out.. last call... 16:41:24 #endmeeting