16:59:59 #startmeeting CommOps Weekly Meeting (2015-12-01) 16:59:59 Meeting started Tue Dec 1 16:59:59 2015 UTC. The chair is jflory7. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:59:59 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:59:59 The meeting name has been set to 'commops_weekly_meeting_(2015-12-01)' 17:00:05 #meetingname commops 17:00:05 The meeting name has been set to 'commops' 17:00:20 #chair decause threebean lmacken mattdm 17:00:20 Current chairs: decause jflory7 lmacken mattdm threebean 17:00:27 #topic Agenda 17:00:31 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:CommOps_2015-12-01 17:00:38 #topic Roll Call 17:01:38 #info Justin W. Flory; UTC-5; CommOps / Marketing (Magazine) / Ambassadors / Join-SIG 17:01:51 We'll wait a few minutes for everyone to roll in. :) 17:02:04 #info cprofitt gmt-5 messaging, storytelling, badges, marketing, magazine, culture 17:02:31 #info Dan Mossor; UTC-6; CommOps / Ambassador / QA / KDE / Server 17:06:17 We'll aim to get started at :10 after the hour. There's some quick info I can hit about the CommBlog too if we're still waiting. 17:07:46 * jflory7 is going to grab view counts for those articles 17:09:45 decause: ping. 17:09:45 jflory7: Ping with data, please: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_naked_pings 17:10:15 Going to hit the CommBlog first since I have some stuff to talk about there. 17:10:28 #topic CommBlog 17:10:47 This week has been super active on the CommBlog! 17:10:56 Lots of articles being pushed out, especially the election interviews. 17:11:01 Here's a quick summary of this week: 17:11:09 #info This Week in CommBlog: 17:11:16 #info Last call for Flock 2016 bids 17:11:22 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/last-call-bids-for-flock-2016/ 17:11:32 #info HP Printing Drivers updated for F23 17:11:39 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing-driver-updated-with-support-for-fedora-23/ 17:11:53 #info Fossetcon 2015 Orlando Florida 17:12:02 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/fossetcon-2015-orlando-florida/ 17:12:08 #info Autonomously posted by Andrew Ward (word is getting out!); however, greater configuration of roles? 17:12:13 award3535++ 17:12:50 #info Elections: Nominations Filed, Campaign Period, Candidate Interviews Coming Soon 17:12:58 #link https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/elections-nominations-campaign-candidate-interviews/ 17:13:12 #info Election interviews rolling in, several new interviews have been posted! 17:13:19 #info Next Week in CommBlog: 17:13:25 #info Year in Review introduction 17:13:39 #info More election interviews (there are several being drafted right now) 17:13:50 So, that sums up all of the CommBlog news of this week. 17:14:00 I think there's a lot more of incoming traffic because of the Elections. 17:14:28 More traffic has been slowly coming in as people are looking for the Interviews. 17:15:01 Might be a good idea to promote that @FedoraCommunity Twitter account a bit more too, so all of the Twitter aficionados are aware it exists. :) 17:15:38 wait, I didn't know about that 17:15:41 jflory7++ 17:15:45 * danofsatx heads off to the twittersphere 17:15:49 Yeah, I think ryanlerch got that all set up for us. :) 17:15:52 * mailga around... a bit late 17:15:55 Feel free to follow and retweet! 17:16:03 Hiya mailga, welcome welcome :) 17:16:21 * danofsatx is following 17:16:23 thanks jflory7 17:16:35 So with that, anyone else have anything to add about the CommBlog? 17:17:16 #info @FedoraCommunity (Twitter) automatically tweets new CommBlog posts - CommOpsers on Twitter should follow + retweet to bring more exposure to account 17:17:27 Going once... 17:17:31 Going twice... 17:17:35 Going thrice... 17:17:41 #topic 5tftw 17:17:59 * jflory7 is dancing around Elections since bee2502 / decause aren't here yet 17:18:14 how are 5tftw chosen? 17:18:23 #info mattdm contacted, new 5tftw article went up 2015-11-25 17:18:52 #help More content needed for 5tftw, fill up the Etherpad! 17:18:54 #link https://www.piratepad.ca/p/5tftw 17:18:58 cprofitt: Good question! So: 17:19:11 As of very recently, the 5tftw was one of the most recent things added to our Toolbox. 17:19:34 Normally, it's always been mattdm scouting around the Project for five things to write about each week. 17:19:39 Is there a criteria for what fits? 17:20:08 cprofitt: The way I think about it is, if it could go on the CommBlog, it could go in the 5tftw. :) 17:20:18 * decause gets net 17:20:20 Just normally 5tftw is a very slimmed down version of anything on the CommBlog. 17:20:21 jflory7++ 17:20:30 Woo, welcome back, decause! 17:20:31 .hello decause 17:20:32 decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' 17:20:40 hi decause 17:20:46 * decause waves to mailga 17:20:50 greetings decause 17:20:57 * decause waves to danofsatx 17:21:09 decause: We went through some CommBlog stuff earlier, but mostly just stats about articles. We can revisit if needed, currently on 5tftw. 17:21:26 nod nod, catching up on the log 17:21:31 Cool. 17:21:50 So I'm not sure if there's much else to say about 5tftw other than now we need to start adding some more snippets to the Etherpad. :) 17:22:05 We'll probably want to try to get something ASAP for this week. 17:22:11 Election news should be an easy topic. 17:22:41 #info Election news is a good topic for 5tftw, as well as other CommBlog articles - just write the "one paragraph" summary on the Etherpad 17:23:03 Anyone else have anything else to add about 5tftw? 17:23:12 If not, we can hit Elections and let decause take the wheel :) 17:23:27 I am good, was just curious about how it works. Thanks for the explanation. 17:23:36 Yep! 17:23:44 Going once... 17:23:47 Going twice... 17:23:50 Going thrice... 17:23:55 #topic Elections 17:24:21 * decause picks up the talking stick 17:24:34 Not sure if decause has anything specific to add to this outside of the CommBlog coverage - sadly it looks like bee2502 isn't here either, but I know she said she was busy with finals / interviews this week 17:25:11 The only real update is that the Envs and Stacks WG is going to become a SIG, and not run elections 17:25:22 * jflory7 nods 17:25:23 it was a super brief update at the end of council meeting yesterday 17:25:54 we're going to continue helping to publish the election interviews 17:26:07 which should continue to come in, so keep eyes peeled for those 17:26:14 It's exciting to see all of the interviews popping up in the draft box. :) 17:26:21 There's at least three more pending, last I've seen 17:26:53 as soon as the candidate is happy with the content, we push 17:27:08 its a lil different than other blogs, because elections are time sensitive 17:27:08 * mailga don't have seen any council meeting log in the ML, zodbot died? 17:27:14 Right. 17:27:25 mailga: bummer :/ 17:27:28 mailga: The raw text summary is working, but the HTML logs weren't working yesterday. 17:27:32 Meant to file a ticket with infra 17:27:37 jflory7: there is a ticket filed 17:27:41 Ahhh. Cool. 17:27:50 it's on nirik's radar last I saw 17:27:59 possibly fedmsg related 17:28:04 there is a thread 17:28:09 good. 17:28:09 Sweet. Hopefully will be back online soon then! 17:28:24 yeah, zodbot is kinda bread-and-butter for community activity, def needed 17:28:29 I can manually run the script to update it. 17:28:40 Oh, and just as note for anyone doing editing / approval on CommBlog interviews, one thing to note: 17:28:56 are the links there now? 17:29:05 mailga: ^ 17:29:27 #info All CommBlog election interviews should have a uniform header. Editors, refer to past articles and copy the raw HTML and check it matches other articles before publishing 17:29:41 jflory7++ 17:29:42 yes 17:29:46 so far, it has been so good 17:30:22 Definitely! 17:30:42 So, anything else to hit on Electionsstuff? 17:30:47 one last thing: 17:30:48 * jflory7 remembers he forgot Wiki Gardening 17:31:06 #info Campaign Period has been extended to December 7th 17:31:25 because of Elections happening during US Holiday 17:31:31 And then the actual election opens right after that, right? 17:31:42 afaik, yes 17:31:46 Cool. 17:32:06 decause: what about giannisk late nomination? What council decided? 17:32:19 mailga: It was approved. 17:32:23 mailga: I believe the council agreed to allow it, provisionally 17:32:43 moving forward, council may approve late nominations within a reasonable timeframe 17:32:51 I agree. 17:32:58 mailga: yep 17:33:15 that's all I got for elections 17:33:25 * jflory7 nods 17:33:27 and I have a new topic this week 17:33:29 but a famsco candidate should be more careful about deadline... :-D 17:33:53 mailga: we decided that it only hurt the candidate, because it makes them late, and gives them less time to campaign too 17:34:11 said that I'm happy having giannisk on list. 17:34:47 nod nod 17:34:53 ok 17:34:53 decause: maybe we can extend once more terms. 17:35:10 #topic Metrics 17:35:21 Ooh? 17:35:27 the thing I've been working on this week is a metrics slide deck 17:35:43 it is all in preparation for FOSDEM and other events coming up in the near future as well 17:36:09 Yesterday I compiled all the Fedora Social Media stats from Aug-Nov 17:36:18 I will def be sharing that soon 17:36:20 like today 17:36:22 :) 17:36:34 Nice! This sounds like something that will be useful especially for Ambassador folks too. 17:36:59 but there are a few other items on my checklist too that commops could help with: 17:37:17 1) Fedora Magazine Traffic Stats (Jetpack will do) 17:37:31 2) CommBlog Traffic Stats (Jetpack will do, if it is working) 17:37:48 3) Fedmsg Stats, Annual and by month 17:38:15 4) fedmsg2gource (decause will experiment with this one more) 17:38:31 (For the record, CommBlog Jetpack stats are live) 17:38:48 jflory7: I know they are pretty new, but maybe enough to show something with 17:39:01 decause: There's been a notable increase, especially with the interviews 17:39:12 Those are garnering a notable amount of attention 17:39:14 * danofsatx decides to look up Jetpack and see what the heck it is/does 17:39:28 ? 17:39:29 danofsatx: jetpack is a wordpress plugin that does analytics 17:39:31 danofsatx: It's basically a WordPress plugin that hooks into social media and provides site stats and other things. 17:39:34 ^^ 17:39:48 Analytics was the word I was looking for 17:39:59 danofsatx: it helps us measure traffic and activity and visits to the blogs 17:40:05 ahhh....wordpress again. This is becoming a subject I need to get educated on, quickly it seems. 17:40:16 when hooked up, it will also syndicate content to our social media channels too 17:40:28 danofsatx: commblog and magazine are great places to learn 17:40:35 we've got sizable contributor communities in both 17:40:47 as well as my own hackish instance ;) 17:40:48 so, using it as a CMS is one layer, and deploying it is the other 17:40:58 I'm mostly good on layer 1, and have done some layer 2 17:41:16 * decause does not miss doing layer 2. 17:41:25 Is there a way to have a metric about countries hitting getfedora.org? 17:41:48 should be a way to pipe requesting IPs through geoiplookup 17:41:54 I admit that this is a question I can ask to robyduck.... 17:41:55 mailga: ish, via geoip 17:42:00 danofsatx++ 17:42:16 mailga: yeah, websites team would have better answers 17:42:32 Which I'm part of..... :-( 17:42:40 so, this slide deck has been on my plate for a minute, and I'm really trying to get it out the door, like yesterday ;) 17:42:57 I'm excited to see it! 17:43:01 which, come to think of - does getfedora.org translate based on requesting IP? That information may already be available 17:43:02 decause++ 17:43:10 I will get a repo up on pagure, and we can start dumping other metrics there too 17:43:36 the fedora-stats-tools repo on github has a number of scripts in there too that are worthwhile to use 17:44:00 anyone who wants to get in on that, I'll be sure to credit you on the deck :) 17:44:03 decause: Might be a good update for the ML too, especially for Bee once she emerges from finals. :) 17:44:10 * mailga thinks danofsatx is right... 17:44:16 jflory7: yep, I was running her meetbot scripts yesterday 17:44:24 bee2502++ 17:44:25 Nice!! 17:44:45 I had a net outage in the middle of it though (net issues--) 17:44:53 anywho 17:44:57 we're at 15 minutes in 17:45:01 err, left 17:45:07 jflory7: what didn't we cover yet 17:45:09 ? 17:45:22 #info decause compiled slide deck of various Fedora metrics, e.g. social media. Aims to include Magazine stats, CommBlog stats, fedmsg stats, and fedmsg2gource 17:45:30 tickets? 17:45:34 decause: We're down to Wiki Gardening, Plumbing, and Hubs 17:45:44 Yes, and the tickets, let me pull up the Trac. 17:45:56 jflory7: it is good to note that mattdm has done a ton of heavy lifting and passed the deck onto me after getting lots of download stats from smooge 17:46:28 ok, wiki gardening is easy 17:46:31 #info mattdm++ smooge++ for starting the slide decks 17:46:33 * jflory7 is going to the Trac now 17:46:42 #topic Wiki Gardening 17:46:55 #info new members be sure to add yoruselves to the commops wiki page 17:47:20 #topic Plumbing 17:47:37 The only new item I have for this is Budget 17:48:06 in preparation for the FY17 budget announcement, it'd be a good idea to start building the new budget site 17:48:37 Is this related to Hubs development at all or something altogether separate? 17:48:44 we should open a ticket on our trac to speak with infra and websites team to find out what is best moving forward 17:48:58 jflory7: you make a good point there 17:49:09 there will be a budget Hub at some point for sure 17:49:37 #action jflory7 open ticket on Trac about budget site to start discussion with infra + websites team to find out how to move forward 17:49:41 I see, awesome. 17:49:51 * jflory7 needs to educate himself more on Hubs altogether 17:49:58 * danofsatx too 17:50:01 jflory7: I sense a Hubs Hackathon in the near future 17:50:06 decause: a budget hub can't be available to everyone IMO. 17:50:06 vFAD 17:50:09 Ooohhh! 17:50:20 virtual session 17:50:34 I need to learn about hubs as well. 17:50:42 it has been a lil while since I stood up the stack, but I've done it like 4-5 times now, so I'm happy to help onboard folks 17:50:57 mailga: I would think so too, I would think it would require membership in specific FAS groups, although I am not familiar with what's actually happening right now 17:51:06 Very well could be that this is something already discussed :) 17:51:17 at some point next week maybe, I'll make a point to come to RIT in the evening, and do a local session, and then broadcast to the net or something 17:51:31 * jflory7 nods 17:51:32 jflory7: let's open a ticket on a Hubs-a-thon vFAD 17:51:38 jflory7++ 17:51:38 mailga: Karma for jflory7 changed to 15 (for the f23 release cycle): https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any 17:51:44 vFAD? 17:51:51 #action jflory7 open ticket about CommOps Hubs-a-thon vFAD (virtual Fedora Activity Day) 17:52:00 decause++ 17:52:08 mailga :) 17:52:11 mailga: we're not going to be doing the reimbursements part of the budget on Hubs, just the reporting part 17:52:37 10 minute mark - really quick, I have some news about plumbing to share from last week's topics 17:52:38 there are def CC and addresses in the reimbursement parts, but after it has been paid out, that is where we report 17:52:54 ambassadors will continue having private trac for reimbursement, and the process will stay as much the same as possible 17:53:37 I just saw yesterday there was this new resource: 17:53:47 http://taiga.fedorainfracloud.org 17:53:59 I'm good with openshift too 17:54:11 but this stuff can get sorted out in the ticket 17:54:17 * jflory7 nods 17:54:35 decause: budget and hub are a bit complicated to discuss here, we don't have enough time. 17:54:42 I think plumbing and Hubs just got covered in the same topic 17:54:49 Seems like it to me. 17:54:50 mailga: agreed, I just wanted to start the ticket process 17:55:02 Going to hit that last bit of plumbingstuff on the Agenda real fast now. 17:55:11 #topic Open Floor 17:55:22 #info Hooking up email posting to CommBlog: 17:55:30 #info Mutual interest of Magazine; who is point of contact? 17:55:37 #help Getting CommBlog posting via email set up and functional 17:55:48 #info Hooking up IFTTT pipes for commblog -> twitter, other places: 17:55:57 #info Should be complete thanks to ryanlerch, see @FedoraCommunity on Twitter 17:56:00 I just wanted to thank everyone on the commblog team for helping me get started in the Fedora Community. Thanks!! You all Rock!! 17:56:08 #info Turning on JetPack plugins in CommBlog: 17:56:15 #info Article stats now viewable by all logged-in contributors via Jetpack 17:56:21 cprofitt++ We're glad to have you!! 17:56:27 cprofitt++ 17:56:30 welcome welcome 17:56:32 That's all I had to add. 17:56:51 jflory7++ 17:57:04 next week, we'll add a Tickets topic to the agenda too 17:57:12 Yes, I will make sure to add that to the Agenda as a topic. 17:57:15 For refernece... 17:57:18 * reference 17:57:20 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:CommOps_2015-12-01 17:57:24 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:CommOps_2015-12-14 17:57:31 I would like to second cprofitt's statement. y'all have been extremely welcoming to this noob' 17:57:50 as well as cprofitt himself. 17:58:06 danofsatx++ Welcome aboard, glad to have you here as well. :) 17:58:16 Ohh, actually, I do have one short (awesome) news update! 17:58:36 Sent out to the ML earlier but worth mentioning real fast here :) 17:58:41 thanks danofsatx glad I could assist. You are excellent to work with. 17:58:56 #info WhatCanIDoForFedora.org: CommOps has a place on the site! http://whatcanidoforfedora.org/en/#community-ops 17:59:03 jflory7++ 17:59:04 HUGE 17:59:09 so good 17:59:23 #info Ideas and other places to help welcome, feel free to hack on it and add more specific places as you see fit. https://github.com/fedora-infra/asknot-ng/blob/develop/questions/includes/fedora/community.yml 17:59:36 threebean++ for that one, was so quick to handle my PR :) 18:00:02 jflory7++ 18:00:23 .fasinfo stickster 18:00:24 cprofitt: User "stickster" doesn't exist 18:00:31 So, *now* that's all I have to say. :) 18:00:31 .info stickster 18:00:31 cprofitt: Error: You don't have the rss capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. 18:00:35 .fasinfo pfrields 18:00:37 jflory7: User: pfrields, Name: Paul W. Frields, email: stickster@gmail.com, Creation: 2005-04-13, IRC Nick: stickster, Timezone: America/New_York, Locale: en, GPG key ID: BD113717, Status: active 18:00:40 jflory7: Approved Groups: packager gitcsi sysadmin triagers sysadmin-noc cla_done web fedorabugs cvsfedora @docs ambassadors art +news cla_fedora @accounts torrentadmin disabled_torrent bzrpython-fedora gitcorrespondingsource freemedia @fedoraldc designteam gitfedora-web @gitpulsecaster sysadmin-tools @cmsadmin sysadmin-test @gitfedora-zikula +elections @docs-writers +docs-publishers @fedora-socialmedia (1 more message) 18:00:41 * mailga thinks that in WCIDFF is missed amby and mktg. 18:00:58 mailga: that is def on our plate to help update those areas for sure :) 18:01:19 jflory7: ticket on commops trac, or issue on upstream repo would be good either way 18:01:25 mailga: I think the "Advocacy" section could use some more added. Ambassadors is on there, but I think it could be fleshed out more with specific areas for Ambassador type of activities to help. 18:01:28 mailga: agreed though 18:01:41 ok, we're 1 minute over now 18:01:43 #action jflory7 add ticket for WCIDFF contributions 18:01:45 any other last minute? 18:01:49 going once 18:01:50 going twice 18:01:51 #action jflory7 include tickets on next week's agenda 18:01:51 going thrice 18:01:56 jflory7++ 18:01:58 rock solid today 18:02:10 jflory7: you wanna gavel us out? 18:02:10 Thanks all! 18:02:13 Sure thing :) 18:02:17 #endmeeting