22:58:02 #startmeeting Fedora LATAM Ambassadors 22:58:02 Meeting started Sat Dec 12 22:58:02 2015 UTC. The chair is potty. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:58:02 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:58:02 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_latam_ambassadors' 22:58:12 .fas itamarjp 22:58:12 itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' 22:58:23 #topic Roll Call 22:58:27 .fas potty 22:58:27 potty: potty 'Abdel G. Martínez L.' - radhakrishnanpotty 'S.Radhakrishnan' 23:00:18 * echevemaster echevemaster 23:00:32 .fas echevemaster 23:00:32 echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' 23:00:44 From Colombia 23:00:47 anybody else? 23:01:12 #chair itamarjp echevemaster 23:01:12 Current chairs: echevemaster itamarjp potty 23:01:48 .fas sophiekovalevsky 23:01:48 kovalevsky: sophiekovalevsky 'Kiara Navarro' 23:01:54 Panama 23:01:59 Agenda potty? 23:03:18 Let me look for it 23:04:50 Ok I got the agenda 23:04:52 but first 23:04:58 do we have any tickets to review? 23:05:41 I don't think so 23:06:18 I reviewed... there is no new tickets 23:06:36 #topic Meeting Schedule 23:06:49 I sent an email to the mailing list about this topic. 23:07:09 Previously the meetings were on Wednesday, now on Saturday 23:07:35 I am going to start giving -1 for people that are not attending the meetings 23:07:36 But 23:07:53 We are not having a lot of people here 23:08:02 And what will be solve that? itamarjp 23:08:03 So.. Or it is a bad moment for LATAM to have meetings 23:08:31 Or people is not interested in participating on these meetings (until they have a ticket) 23:08:34 I think that maybe it's something wrong with the LATAM peopel that we're not attending meetins as usual 23:08:41 We have to invite to the people and remember that If there a no meetings, we will not have plans for the year 23:08:47 What are your thinkings? 23:09:03 @itamarjp sent a Google and Facebook reminder 23:09:03 We have to invite 23:09:07 Just that 23:09:07 echevemaster, if it doesn't solve at least will save some $ 23:09:28 theres no facebook yet, only google at this time 23:09:29 A Google and a Facebook reminder to whom? 23:09:35 That is not the problem we have to spent all the money 23:09:35 I received nothing 23:09:49 We have to talk about the Fudcon I think 23:09:55 We have to prepare bids 23:09:58 Kohane: specifically 23:10:00 to people 23:10:04 I'm very interested to bring Fudcon to Colombia 23:10:04 he has the email 23:10:10 please share the email with him 23:10:16 echevemaster: please wait for that topic 23:10:23 Why? 23:10:51 My email used on Facebook? Or my main email? They're different 23:10:51 Do anyone have an extra opinion on this topic? 23:10:59 Maybe for LATAM it's a bad meeting time, that's what I think. 23:11:03 I got lost 23:11:04 EOL. 23:11:08 Kohane: the email you want to receive the reminder 23:11:16 .fas kohane 23:11:17 potty: 'kohane' Not Found! 23:11:27 Kohane: identify yourself by the way 23:11:36 .hello lailah 23:11:37 Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' 23:11:46 ok 23:11:56 Sorry, I forgot it 23:12:09 Never mind, Kohane. 23:12:09 i will send a friendly reminder (again) to see people 23:12:15 Ok we have five persons here 23:12:16 people's availability for meetings 23:12:18 http://whenisgood.net/fedora-latam-meeting 23:12:38 1 for brasil, 1 for uruguay, 1 for colombia, 2 for panama 23:13:39 o/ 23:13:45 So. This will be the time for these meetings 23:13:54 athos, welcome 23:13:56 Go ahead Athos 23:14:05 Only 10 persons have responded the http://whenisgood.net/fedora-latam-meeting 23:14:09 athos: <- 23:14:11 thx 23:14:35 Athos your real name 23:14:42 Where are you from? 23:14:46 .fas athos 23:14:46 itamarjp: ribeiro 'Athos Ribeiro' - krathos74 'Ruben Sanchez Rodriguez' - tanathos88 'John Alexander Barreto Espinosa' - athos 'S D Barnes' 23:14:59 yes echevemaster, real name Athos, FAS = Ribeiro 23:15:06 Got it brasil 23:15:13 .fas ribeiro 23:15:14 itamarjp: softwarepublico 'Portal do Software Publico' - sdmauro 'Mauro Rodrigues Ribeiro' - everlin 'Everlin Ribeiro' - tcasalribeiro 'Tiago Casal RIbeiro' - ribeiro 'Athos Ribeiro' - slowhusky 'Victor Ribeiro Pires' - kallklen 'Kallklen Ribeiro de Paula' (5 more messages) 23:15:21 Glad to see another person of Brazil here 23:16:04 yes, itamarjp invited me last week but I was afk, I will try and show up often now on :) 23:16:23 good athos 23:16:35 do you agree with the current day and hour, athos ? 23:16:59 date/time for the meetings 23:17:19 hi 23:17:23 hi Richzendy 23:17:34 hmm, it would be easier for me to show up if it was earlier today or some other day at the same time 23:17:39 I will change my username for now. 23:17:53 athos: ok 23:18:05 Richzendy: what do you think about the current day/time of the meeting? 23:18:08 williamjmorenor: welcome 23:18:10 Hour and day is fine for me 23:18:13 .fas williamjmorenor 23:18:13 williamjmorenor: williamjmorenor 'William Moreno' 23:18:17 williamjmorenor: what do you think about the current day/time of the meeting? 23:18:22 #chair williamjmorenor 23:18:22 Current chairs: echevemaster itamarjp potty williamjmorenor 23:18:34 * williamjmorenor Nicaragua 23:18:39 Hi Richzendy, introduce yourself 23:18:51 .fas srkraken 23:18:51 srkraken: srkraken 'Efren Antonio Robledo Moreno' 23:18:58 * srkraken Mexico 23:18:59 I think would be better forr the community, many of us, can't attend to the meeting in business days 23:19:12 echevemaster: i will shut-up this topic 23:19:19 echevemaster: we are having more people 23:19:24 right now we have 23:19:43 potty, for me, this hour and day sounds fine, the weekends out of work my mind will be more clear to attend the meetings 23:19:44 I am con the movil, with a pour signal 23:19:54 .fas Richzendy 23:19:54 Richzendy: richzendy 'Edwind Richzendy Contreras Soto' 23:19:55 2 brasil, 2 panama, 1 uruguay, 1 mexico, 1 nicaragua, 1 venezuela, 1 colombia 23:20:07 * Richzendy Venezuela 23:20:16 i will change topic then 23:20:19 we are all good 23:20:21 ok. 23:20:24 .FAS lorddemon 23:20:24 lorddemon: lorddemon 'Gonzalo Nina Mamani' 23:20:26 OK 23:20:26 Cool. 23:20:30 not everyone can attend the meeting 23:20:37 but today we got 10 people 23:20:45 that's good attendanc 23:20:50 Yeah 23:20:50 * lorddemon saluda desde Bolivia... Ups pero representa a Bolivia 23:20:57 ok, i think we can decide the days, today 23:21:01 LOL lorddemon 23:21:08 echevemaster: +1 23:21:08 better than the last meetings 23:21:10 lets vote 23:21:15 we have 10 people 23:21:18 from several countries 23:21:21 let's vote 23:21:27 It's cool for me this schedule for meeting, so +1 23:21:29 Do you agree on the new day/time? 23:21:30 +1 from me 23:21:42 Saturday 11PM UTC 23:21:46 +1 23:21:50 Yeah, perfect 23:21:56 * srkraken hola lorddemon Saludos 23:22:08 ping itamarjp lorddemon Kohane Richzendy williamjmorenor srkraken athos 23:22:09 #info Saturday 11PM UTC, new date.hour for meetings 23:22:15 thx echevemaster 23:22:16 +1 23:22:23 Excellent! 23:22:25 Pong potty 23:22:37 -1? :) 23:22:54 +1 23:22:56 athos: -1 is when you do not agree 23:23:01 why athos? do you have other opinion or suggest 23:23:01 it is ok 23:23:11 ? 23:23:22 +1 23:23:24 suggestion I mean 23:24:04 +1 23:24:05 we have five point 23:24:08 6 23:24:13 sure, this meetings were held during the week way before, right? But I get everybody is busy then, so yes, at least it would be 1 hour earlier, so I'd change the -1 for a +1 :) 23:24:14 it is enough to declare agreed 23:24:21 +1 23:24:28 7 votes 23:24:35 #agree Meetings will be Saturday 11PM UTC 23:24:36 please change it to agree 23:25:17 9 +1, 0 0, 0 -1 23:25:18 remember,if you don't feel confident to speak in english, you can speak in spanish 23:25:24 "Tu palabra es importante" 23:25:33 Before moving to the next topic 23:25:48 Please, share the schedule with your fellow friends 23:26:06 facebook, irc, telegram and so on 23:26:06 OK 23:26:07 In Panama we have a group and I sent a message reminding about the meeting 23:26:15 Yes 23:26:27 #action people should spread the word about the meeting 23:26:57 #action use Google Calendar, Facebook Event, Telegram/Whatsapp messages 23:27:16 #action Send remainder to the mailing-list 23:27:35 So... Do we have any extra opinion before moving to the next topic? 23:28:01 From me, nothing. 23:28:05 no from my side 23:28:42 Ok, let's move on 23:28:58 #topic FUDCon LATAM Bids 23:29:16 o/ 23:29:35 I have two questions 23:29:53 echevemaster: go ahead 23:30:24 When we will decide the deadline for the bids? 23:30:30 and second 23:30:37 how many bids there are just now 23:30:47 Let's decide about this today 23:30:54 we got quorum for that 23:31:14 ok. 23:31:21 Good 23:31:28 What will be a good date for the bids? 23:31:42 please send to the meeting your thoughts 23:31:48 well, this is my 1st meeting so, what are these bids about? 23:32:00 I will explain a little 23:32:18 Yes, please 23:32:35 We are deciding on the deadline for proposing a date to choose the next place we are going to held FUDCon 23:32:36 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon 23:33:02 i thing a good deadline will be 15 of February 23:33:27 january is a slow month on many latam countries 23:33:32 February 15 is good date 23:33:34 Agree with that date 23:33:41 In the mailing list 23:33:47 so, we can vote? 23:33:51 We start the discussion 23:33:54 Kohane Agree with that date = +1 23:34:03 +1 23:34:07 Sorry 23:34:08 Agree with that date too 23:34:10 +1 23:34:13 +1 23:34:14 #idea February 15 as the deadline 23:34:24 let 23:34:24 I agreed with that day, most country communities if they are thinking to prepare a bid from now,that would be an excellent day to deadline 23:34:26 lets vote 23:34:38 we are voting potty 23:34:41 +1 23:34:48 +1 23:34:52 I am here? 23:34:57 williamjmorenor: yes 23:34:57 Yeah 23:34:58 from now we have at least two months to prepare, so enough time to see bids. 23:34:59 yes, 23:35:02 +1 for me 23:35:24 Thanks 23:35:29 kovalevsky, agreed 23:35:34 0 23:35:48 0? 23:35:56 0? 23:35:56 What does it mean? 23:36:05 not +1 neither -1 23:36:13 potty, lol 23:36:20 +1 23:36:24 me abstengo de votar (?) 23:36:35 potty why? 23:36:49 #agreed The deadline for FUDCon bids will be February 15th 23:37:06 .fas alexove 23:37:08 alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' 23:37:12 welcome alexove 23:37:20 * alexove Peru 23:37:23 echevemaster: to your second question 23:37:31 Gracias Potty 23:37:34 alexove Perú! So good! 23:37:36 right now we have one bid 23:37:37 #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Puno_2016_bid 23:37:49 Estoy en el móvil, escribiré en español 23:37:50 ok, got it. 23:38:15 why you are absent to vote? 23:38:32 i think better to have it at the end of January 23:38:51 Why end of January? 23:38:58 further explanation please 23:39:00 This is a nice proposal from Petu 23:39:05 alexove, you're a bit late 23:39:08 williamjmorenor: yes, and very complete 23:39:19 Corret 23:39:39 alexove, echevemaster estaba dicendo que el proximo fudcon será en colombia 23:39:46 echevemaster: Kohane: With February 15 we are giving 2 months 23:39:58 And? 23:40:02 echevemaster: Kohane: 2 months for pre-planning is a lot 23:40:11 With a month should be sufficient 23:40:15 itamarjp: I want, remember that we need a bid 23:40:17 Keep in mind there's a lot of people who dissappear in January 23:40:18 ok 23:40:24 So in December 23:40:28 And february is too short 23:40:58 end of january then 23:40:59 ? 23:41:01 no 23:41:04 we already voted 23:41:08 agreed on february 23:41:14 it is ok 23:41:16 ok 23:41:20 I like the idea to hace a Fudcon in Colombia 23:41:21 I agree. 23:41:27 let's move on 23:41:31 Yeah 23:41:32 time is money :) 23:41:37 BIDs 23:41:40 We have currently Puno 23:41:45 and echevemaster is working on Colombia 23:41:52 I'm finising colombia 23:41:56 Do we have any other interested country? 23:42:02 Uruguay 23:42:05 alreay i have a proposal venue 23:42:08 Myself 23:42:12 echevemaster: great! 23:42:22 * williamjmorenor odia el corrector ortográfico de Android 23:42:35 williamjmorenor LOL 23:42:38 So, we have right now Puno, Colombia and Uruguay 23:42:44 Work on them 23:42:52 Share your bids on the mailing list 23:42:54 Yes! 23:42:58 and on February 15th we will decide 23:43:02 Kohane Sylvia? 23:43:07 Sí? 23:43:22 que gane el mejor 23:43:32 #action LATAM will decide for its next FUDCon on February 20th 23:43:54 * alexove creó que Sylvia es otaku o algo así :-) 23:43:56 (February 20th is Saturday) 23:44:07 Let's move to the next topic 23:44:11 Almost, haha 23:44:12 potty, next topic 23:44:12 No te parece mejor solicitar paproconio para ir a un Fudcon antes de proponer organizar uno? 23:44:18 #topic LATAM Budget 23:44:32 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/LATAM/Budget:2017 23:44:55 We have Peru, Venezuela, Nicaragua and Panama 23:45:12 The rest of the countries should fill the tables with their events and budget requeriments 23:45:16 * williamjmorenor cree que si alexlove no ve anime es raro, hay series muy buenas!!! 23:45:34 Remember, if we don't will fill this table then we will not have budget 23:45:45 Williamjmorenor de acuerdo contigo. 23:45:56 Potty hay algún deadline? 23:46:00 Williamjmorenor Solicitar paproconio? 23:46:03 And, more important, we will only approve tickets that are contemplated on the budget 23:46:22 Kohane: williamjmorenor talk about this topic on the open floor or in telegram 23:46:25 focus on the topic 23:46:30 I think than must be a deadline to add avents to budget wiki 23:46:44 yes I agree 23:46:52 ok 23:47:02 Do we have more active contries where we should see events at the wiki? 23:47:21 I'm thinking maybe: Mexico, Bolovia, Colombia and Brazil. 23:47:28 This is an easy work, I propose January 2th 23:47:32 Argentina of course. 23:47:52 kovalevsky: that's exactly the issue... we have new actives countries but they don't have added the info 23:48:04 We should try to make a remind for people that are actually in those contries and set a deadline to fill the events. 23:48:10 Brazil for example: they participate on latinoware, fisl and other events, they ask for money 23:48:17 I am +1 yo January 2th week 23:48:18 but they should fill the wiki with the info 23:48:45 #action The rest of the LATAM countries should fill the info in the wiki 23:48:49 I fill it. The next week un Bolivia please 23:49:05 I'll do so with Uruguay. 23:49:06 let's vote: January 2th as the deadline for filling the wiki with budget? 23:49:22 Yeah 23:49:23 +1 23:49:25 +1 23:49:34 +1 23:49:49 +1 23:49:52 +1 23:49:54 La verdad creo que para el próximo período deberíamos ser mas estrictos respecto a presupuesto para eventos no planificados 23:49:58 =1 23:50:07 =1? 23:50:13 What does it mean? 23:50:15 type error +1 23:50:20 +1 23:50:21 I give a +1 at top 23:51:10 done 23:51:20 +1 23:51:34 +1 23:51:35 #agreed LATAM will review the budget on January 2th 23:51:56 does anyone have extra opinions on this topic? 23:52:29 Que paso con los cargos que hay proponer respecto a los presupuestos regionales 23:52:51 * williamjmorenor sorry I am on the movile 23:53:04 williamjmorenor: ese es el next topic 23:53:14 let's move to next topic 23:53:15 Oki 23:53:19 #topic Budget.NEXT 23:53:27 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Budget.next 23:53:53 We have to choose 3 delegated: Treasurer, Logistician and Storyteller 23:54:22 Treasurer will be responsible for recording costs and disbursing funds 23:54:42 Logistician will be accountable for shipping swag, banners, and other physical items that need to be shared regionally, as well as any other coordinating for event staffing and organization. This includes convening weekly ambassador IRC meetings. 23:54:53 Storyteller will be accountable for Regional Reports. 23:55:21 Okay. 23:55:23 We need people to propose to these roles 23:55:25 ! 23:55:30 alexove: tell us 23:55:49 Una elección con candidatos? 23:55:59 williamjmorenor: i think so 23:56:03 potty, esto de budget.next ya es oficial? 23:56:17 alexove: eso será oficial 23:56:31 Los que embajadores de las otras regiones aun no se manifiestan al respecto 23:56:49 OK. Who are the candidates? 23:57:11 * itamarjp itamar and leticia for Treasurer and Logistician 23:57:29 i think the candidates should propose on the mailing list 23:57:32 Creo que seria bueno indagar al respecto y avanzar sobre algo seguro 23:57:32 Sigo acá? 23:57:44 Williamjmorenor ye 23:57:50 EOF 23:57:54 alexove: igual, me parece mejor que no tener a nadie encargado de nada 23:58:17 igual preguntaré a remy 23:58:18 Potty agree 23:58:19 la persona de logistica recibiría el material pop de fedora y estaría encargada de distribuirlo a los demás paises/embajadores? 23:58:32 yo me propongo para logistica 23:58:34 si 23:58:49 Yo puedo ayudar como history teller 23:58:53 * itamarjp Bitcoin Treasurer 23:58:57 :) 23:59:02 listo 23:59:04 todos los interesados 23:59:10 Potty you didn't mention anyone for Storyteller 23:59:11 la persona de ese rol, debe estar en un país con aranceles bajos de importación y que su país tenga buena logística para envíos 23:59:12 envian su idea a la lista 23:59:43 de nada sirve por ejemplo si tiene que pagar 50% de impuestos por recibir una caja de stickers 23:59:54 Indeed 00:00:09 Richzendy: agree 00:00:13 potty> envian su idea a la lista <- entendido 00:00:17 That's why I'm silent on this 00:00:19 Yo tambien me puedo proponer y proponer a Bernardoha pero richzendy tiene razón hay averiguar esos detalles 00:00:46 alexove: por eso mismo estoy diciendo envíen a la lista 00:00:46 El costo de producción en Peru de muchas cosas es barato 00:00:47 alguien en florida sería ideal xD 00:00:52 +1 00:00:59 *florida/USA 00:01:00 Richzendy: jajajaja 00:01:04 Richzendy lol 00:01:05 Richzendy:+1 jajajaja 00:01:06 Richzendy: orvtech puede ser 00:01:21 votemos en un día para que la gente envíe esa info a la list 00:01:24 Richzendy orvtech vive en otro lugar ahora, sillicon valey 00:01:31 potty, ya el no vive allí desde hace como 3 años, se mudo a san francisco y trabaja en twitter 00:01:47 ah ok 00:02:19 Un día para enviar las propuestas a la lista? 00:02:20 qué fecha le damos para que los interesados digan en el mailing list? 00:02:27 aja 00:02:41 si 00:02:43 Logistician, I am very skiiled in logistics and I can find a good way to delivery stuff to the people. 00:02:52 Chicos deberia haber otro cardholder? 00:02:52 I said January 9th 00:03:22 williamjmorenor: eso está en manos de commops y neville, me parece 00:03:24 January 9th +1 00:03:34 williamjmorenor: sería bueno tener otro (o el mismo) cardholder 00:03:57 I said January 9th <- agreed 00:04:16 let's vote then: January 9th for the interested people to propose for the roles 00:04:20 +1 00:04:49 +1 00:04:54 +1 00:04:58 +1 00:05:27 +1 00:05:44 +1 00:07:17 #agreed People interested in the 3 delegated roles will propose on the mailing list before January 9th 00:07:35 Perfect 00:07:38 Do we have any extra opinions on this topic? 00:07:53 Not from me. 00:08:37 Let's move on to the next topic 00:08:53 #topic Elections 00:09:17 Okay. 00:09:31 Remember to vote. 00:09:32 #info http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections 00:09:48 #link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting 00:09:54 That is the URL for voting. 00:10:23 Done 00:10:37 I already voted 00:10:38 I think the meeting went too long, time for OpenFloor 00:10:49 Do anybody got an extra topic to speak off in this meeting? 00:10:56 I'll do it tomorrow on WiFi. I can't while I'm on cellphone 00:11:35 Kohane, you mean next week, in next meeting 00:11:47 No, no 00:12:01 I can't vote while I'm on mobile 00:12:04 I have to go out. 00:12:11 thanks to all 00:12:13 bye 00:12:15 So I'll vote tomorrow 00:12:18 bye echevemaster 00:12:23 #topic Open Floor 00:12:23 echevemaster bye 00:12:38 welcome to the new contributor of Uruguay Kohane 00:12:53 +1 potty 00:13:01 Oh...! 00:13:09 Let's finish the meeting in 10... 00:13:13 9... 00:13:16 8... 00:13:19 7... 00:13:22 6... 00:13:25 5.. 00:13:28 4.. 00:13:31 3.. 00:13:34 2.. 00:13:36 1. 00:13:39 1.5 00:13:42 1.25 00:13:46 Hahaha 00:13:48 2.. 00:13:50 1. 00:13:52 Esta creciendo 00:13:53 0 00:13:54 Era .5 00:13:58 #endmeeting