14:00:23 <mailga> #startmeeting FAmSCo 2016-01-27
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14:00:41 <mailga> #meetingname famsco
14:00:41 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco'
14:00:55 <mailga> #topic Roll Call
14:00:58 <mattdm> hi everyone!
14:01:07 <decauseWiTNYC> .hello decause
14:01:07 <mailga> .fas mailga
14:01:07 <zodbot> decauseWiTNYC: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <decause@redhat.com>
14:01:10 <zodbot> mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' <g.trombini@gmail.com>
14:01:21 <mattdm> I have another meeting in a few minutes but I wanted to stop by :)
14:01:22 <potty> .fas potty
14:01:22 <zodbot> potty: potty 'Abdel G. Martínez L.' <abdel.g.martinez.l@gmail.com> - radhakrishnanpotty 'S.Radhakrishnan' <radhakrishnanpotty@hotmail.com>
14:01:23 <mailga> hello mattdm & decauseWiTNYC
14:01:28 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
14:01:28 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
14:01:38 <tuanta> Hi all
14:01:51 <mailga> hello tuanta and potty
14:01:58 <potty> hello
14:02:09 <mailga> gnokii around?
14:02:52 <mailga> #chair potty tuanta mattdm decauseWiTNYC
14:02:52 <zodbot> Current chairs: decauseWiTNYC mailga mattdm potty tuanta
14:03:33 <mailga> lets wait five min for other people..
14:03:39 <tuanta> and cwickert? do you know where he is?
14:05:30 <gnokii> yes
14:05:43 * decauseWiTNYC waves to gnokii :)
14:05:47 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
14:05:49 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
14:07:20 <mailga> ok seems we reached the quorum
14:07:45 <mailga> #info agenda https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2016-January/001720.html
14:08:00 <mailga> #topic Chair Election
14:08:36 <mailga> another week is gone, no replies on the ML afaik. I'd like Christoph as chair, but if he's not able to attend meetings or send mails to the list, we should go ahead.
14:09:04 * mailga thinks giannsik is around the world
14:10:34 <potty> +1
14:11:43 <potty> mailga: how the chair will be elected?
14:11:50 <gnokii> whats a chair when he never attends nor says something on the ml
14:11:52 * decauseWiTNYC has another meeting in 20 mins, but has an agenda item too
14:13:43 <gnokii> wb mailga
14:14:05 <mailga> sorry connection fault
14:14:38 <mailga> I was saying that another week is gone, no replies on the ML afaik. I'd like Christoph as chair, but if he's not able to attend meetings or send mails to the list, we should go ahead.
14:15:20 <mailga> do we have any preference or we can vote as last time we said? No time left to wait anyone.
14:15:41 <potty> I think we should vote as last time.
14:15:44 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules#Election_of_the_Chairperson
14:15:46 <mailga> proposal was giannisk as chair and potty as vice-chair.
14:16:13 <tuanta> we should follow the pre-defined process
14:16:45 <mailga> my vote is +1 for giannisk chair and potty vice-chair
14:17:00 <gnokii> we should follow what?
14:17:21 <potty> tuanta: what is the pre-defined process?
14:17:46 <tuanta> I just paste a link above
14:17:53 <potty> kk
14:18:11 <gnokii> there is no pre-defined process, the only thing was is defined is the time frame and that we past long time ago
14:18:27 <tuanta> people can nominate themselves, or if you want to nominate a person, that person should confirm the nomination
14:19:03 <tuanta> that is a generic rule in Fedora election
14:19:10 <potty> we already nominate last week tuanta
14:19:26 <potty> giannisk and potty
14:19:28 * mattdm off to a meeting
14:19:49 <tuanta> chairperson will appoint vice chair
14:19:53 * mailga waves to mattdm
14:20:16 <tuanta> we just need to elect the chair person
14:20:41 <potty> According to that, we should elect chairperson between giannisk and potty
14:20:53 <potty> Then the winner will appoint his vicechairperson
14:21:47 * decauseWiTNYC has to go to another meeting too
14:22:13 * mailga was not aware of the chair appointment of the vice-chair
14:22:13 <tuanta> my internet connection at home is not good, I may be off suddenly, sorry
14:22:22 * mailga waves to decauseWiTNYC
14:22:36 <decauseWiTNYC> FYI, itamarjp from LATAM would like to take over as the new cardholder in LATAM from Neville Cross. I've told him to post to the FAMSCo list, so be on the lookout :)
14:22:36 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules#Appointment_of_Vice-Chairperson
14:22:40 <decauseWiTNYC> good luck new famsco
14:22:48 <potty> thanks decauseWiTNYC
14:23:06 <decauseWiTNYC> just let me know how I can help you folks going forward, I'm really glad to see ambassador leadership coming togehter again :)
14:23:06 <potty> tuanta: you are right.
14:23:25 * decauseWiTNYC &
14:27:39 <potty> ?
14:28:08 <mailga> if we don't have the whole attendance
14:28:26 <mailga> we cannot start the same discussion every week.
14:28:32 <gnokii> ++
14:29:21 <mailga> so for me is a +1 for giannisk that's doing  the same in the EMEA meetings.
14:29:45 <mailga> He knows he's candidate already. EOF
14:30:12 * potty is wondering if I can vote for myself?
14:30:50 <mailga> potty: yes you can, if I recall correctly.
14:31:44 <potty> +1 potty
14:32:07 <mailga> gnokii, tuanta?
14:32:23 <gnokii> for me its giannisk +1
14:33:21 <tuanta> +1 for potty
14:33:37 <mailga> well we're stuck!
14:33:48 <potty> lol
14:34:15 <mailga> so we need a ML discussion with votes from cwickert, giannisk and lbazan.
14:34:36 <potty> Yes
14:34:45 <potty> That would be interesting
14:35:08 <potty> Im calling lbazan but he is not available
14:35:37 <mailga> #action mailga sending mail to ML asking votes from giannisk cwickert and lbazan for the chairman election between giannisk and potty.
14:35:46 <mailga> going ahead.
14:36:29 <mailga> #topic Action items from previous meetings
14:37:11 <mailga> did potty asked LATAM about the extra $50 on RP?
14:37:39 <potty> Yes
14:37:49 <potty> It will be corrected
14:37:58 <potty> But peo
14:38:04 <potty> People asked me
14:38:19 <potty> For a reference
14:38:27 <gnokii> potty: its not about correct
14:39:41 <potty> The calculations are based on previous years experience. Some people had to rent a place for the meeting and that increased the final amount.
14:40:12 <potty> But i told them that the rule was pretty clear and have to adjust.
14:40:41 <gnokii> potty its not about clear rule either
14:41:12 <potty> gnokii: ?
14:41:33 <gnokii> its about why its higher
14:43:30 <potty> Example: if I have rent a place to do the RP, it will be $40 per hour. 3 hours event is $120.
14:44:16 <gnokii> i dont need examples
14:44:17 <potty> But it not necessary will be liked that
14:44:49 <potty> It is a economic estimation of what we would need in the worst case scenario
14:45:04 <gnokii> and with your example, I would clearly say the shall stick to the rule
14:45:05 <potty> Nothing more nothing less
14:45:42 * mailga checks we have 15 min left for the meeting, so many things to see....
14:46:05 <potty> gnokii: ok
14:46:31 <mailga> do we want to use ML to discuss the question?
14:46:50 <gnokii> ++
14:46:58 <potty> +1
14:47:44 <mailga> #action potty will send mail to ML about extra RP cost.
14:47:49 <mailga> right?
14:48:16 <potty> ok
14:48:22 <mailga> going ahead
14:48:42 <mailga> next topic
14:48:46 <mailga> #topic Wiki gardening
14:49:00 <mailga> #undo
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14:49:05 <mailga> sorry
14:49:12 <mailga> next topic
14:49:21 <mailga> #topic Tickets
14:49:40 <mailga> we need to wipe the tickets, there are some that doesn't need any decision in order to close them. For the others the better way is updating the ticket asking for a quick answer about the status. If no one update the ticket in a week, we'll vote for it at the next meeting.
14:50:21 <mailga> who wants take care of this?
14:50:55 <gnokii> I wanted to take care of it last weekend but they kept me really busy with mentoring
14:51:26 <mailga> gnokii: are you still available for this in the week?
14:52:14 <gnokii> I can try, but can nt say I finish it this week, have an event on saturday
14:52:58 <mailga> gnokii: can you ping me if you're not able? I'll take care of that if you can't.
14:53:07 <gnokii> mailga: yes
14:54:05 <mailga> #action gnokii to check and wipe tickets, if not able mailga will support.
14:54:13 <mailga> going ahead
14:54:16 <mailga> next topic
14:54:29 <mailga> #topic Wiki gardening
14:54:41 <mailga> There are some pages needing updates:
14:54:54 <mailga> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees
14:55:05 <mailga> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_tasks
14:55:40 <mailga> who wants check the updates?
14:56:17 <mailga> I can take care of.
14:56:29 <potty> (:
14:57:11 <mailga> #action mailga take care of the update of the wiki pages.
14:57:19 <mailga> ahead
14:57:28 <mailga> next topic, the most important.
14:57:44 <mailga> #topic FOSCo settlement planning
14:57:58 <mailga> Who's going to take care of the things to do to set up FOSCo?
14:58:21 <gnokii> me
14:58:56 <mailga> gnokii: ok, so we start to think about fosco.
14:59:42 <mailga> #action gnokii takes care of FOSCo settlement planning.
14:59:45 <gnokii> its not about thinking its more about taking action
14:59:57 <mailga> gnokii: +1
15:00:31 <mailga> do you think you'll have something ready for the next meeting?
15:00:42 <potty> +1
15:01:48 <gnokii> mailga: sure
15:02:01 <mailga> gnokii ++
15:02:16 <mailga> gnokii++
15:02:17 <zodbot> mailga: Karma for gnokii changed to 6 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:02:22 <mailga> :-D
15:02:37 <mailga> ok going ahead
15:02:50 <mailga> #topic Open floor
15:03:23 <mailga> we should change the meeting planning on fedocal
15:03:38 <mailga> #link https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/
15:04:06 <mailga> #action mailga will open a ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fedocal/report
15:04:09 <mailga> eof
15:04:19 <mailga> anything else?
15:04:43 <potty> No
15:05:19 <gnokii> not from my side
15:05:57 <mailga> ok, we're 5 min late.
15:06:04 <mailga> #endmeeting