22:53:35 #startmeeting Fedora latam ambassadors meeting 22:53:35 Meeting started Sat Feb 6 22:53:35 2016 UTC. The chair is echevemaster. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 22:53:35 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 22:53:35 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_latam_ambassadors_meeting' 22:53:43 #topic Roll call 22:54:02 .fas yn1v 22:54:06 .fas echevemaster 22:54:06 yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' 22:54:08 echevemaster, el meeting esta programado para empezar daqui a 6 minutos. 22:54:09 echevemaster: echevemaster 'Eduardo Javier Echeverria Alvarado' 22:54:20 podemos esperar un pouco mas ? 22:54:21 * yn1v Nicaragua 22:54:33 Itamar I know, I don't see any difference, just doing roll call 22:54:35 .fas alexove 22:54:36 No worries 22:54:36 alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' 22:54:56 * echevemaster Venezuela Colombia 22:55:13 .fas itamarjp 22:55:14 itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' 22:55:18 * alexove = Peru 22:55:31 * itamarjp PeruGuay 22:55:52 I'll wait for the people for five minutes to start the topic 22:56:06 .fas lilixx 22:56:06 lilix: lilixx 'Aura Lila Gutierrez Tejada' 22:56:20 lilix: o/ 22:57:27 Meanwhile thanks all for attend to our meeting, has arrived the day to choose the venue of the Fudcon of this year 22:57:46 .hi lailah 22:57:51 May the force be with you, Fedorians 22:57:57 .hellomynameis mayorga 22:57:58 mayorga: mayorga 'Eduardo Mayorga Téllez' 22:57:58 Thanks 22:58:00 * mayorga Nicaragua 22:58:19 .hello lailah 22:58:20 Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' 22:58:28 Ah, finallu 22:58:32 #chair y1nv 22:58:32 Current chairs: echevemaster y1nv 22:58:56 hi guys 22:59:00 .fas tonet666p 22:59:01 tonet666p: tonet666p 'Tonet Pascualet Jallo Colquehuanca' 22:59:07 * tonet666p from Perú 22:59:11 Ok, then, we will start the topic 22:59:21 .fas wolnei 22:59:21 wolnei: wolnei 'Wolnei Cândido Tomazelli Junior' 22:59:24 Brazil 22:59:28 wolnei: o/ 22:59:31 #topic Fudcon Venue Election 22:59:50 Anybody can paste the links here 22:59:57 I'm on the cellphone 23:00:03 ? 23:00:14 links of fudcon bids ? 23:00:23 Yes 23:00:30 Wait, I have them 23:00:40 Please, Puno and Uruguay 23:00:48 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Puno_2016_bid 23:01:13 We will start with Puno 23:01:13 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Montevideo_2016_bid 23:01:23 Sent Montevideo 23:01:25 Okay 23:01:27 Wranglers, ready? 23:01:35 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Montevideo_2016_bid 23:01:40 First question 23:02:17 Why we should elect your country as venue of this Fudcon? 23:02:31 Wranglers, please ask the question 23:02:39 Explain us 23:02:43 Who are the wranglers? 23:03:04 The owners of the event 23:03:13 Then is answer and not ask 23:03:28 Answer the question you should say 23:03:37 Yes, sorry 23:03:44 Answer the question 23:03:55 Thanks Kohane 23:04:36 ! 23:04:47 You're welcome 23:04:56 Go ahead 23:05:20 hi every one 23:05:27 If you want in Spanish 23:05:37 Hi tonet666 23:05:43 i'm one of the event owners for Puno bid 23:05:45 tonet666p 23:06:19 .fas aeperezt 23:06:19 aeperezt: aeperezt 'Alejandro Perez' 23:06:35 * aeperezt Panama 23:06:44 i think you should vote for Puno because here we have an active foss community interested on Fedora 23:06:46 #chair aeperezt 23:06:46 Current chairs: aeperezt echevemaster y1nv 23:07:18 ok, en español 23:07:54 muchas de esas personas se introdujeron como usuarios y creo que es momento de que conozcan la comunidad de mas cerca 23:08:06 * alexove todos hablamos spanglish ;-) 23:08:34 de esa manera poder sentirse mas atraidos y lograr conseguir sus contribuciones voluntarias 23:08:39 Right. 23:09:14 esa es la principal meta que tenemos en caso de que se elija a Puno como sede 23:09:43 ahora, respecto a nuestros aliados 23:09:54 Yes? 23:10:11 tenemos de nuestro lado a la Universidad Nacional del Altiplano 23:10:46 mi persona ha hablado personalmente con el decano de mi facultad y el director de estudios, los cuales ofrecieron su apoyo en caso de que se acepte la sede 23:11:40 esto involucra tener el centro de convenciones a nuestra disposicion, movilidad y muy probablemente tambien presupuesto como auspicio 23:12:08 Right. 23:12:54 How many attendees are you thinking bring to the event? The expenses are normal ? , the flights are cheap or expensive, Do you think is easy bring to Puno contributors of nearest countries? 23:13:05 por otro lado, el costo de vida en Puno es muy bajo, los hospedajes tambien, y estamos cerca a Bolivia, asi que el evento tambien podria ser accesible para los fedorianos de ese pais 23:13:30 Hola buenas tardes aqui en Cusco Peru, estamos amciosos de recibir a la comunidad de latinos fedorianos 23:13:47 ansiosos, with s 23:13:53 Sorry, I can't help it 23:14:01 respondiendo 23:14:51 sobre los asistentes, creo que se puede llegar a unas 200 personas como minimo, creo que lo principal es el interes de las mismas antes que la cantidad 23:15:03 Finally, what are your cons? 23:15:04 Ademas la comunidad de Fedora Peru estamos trabajando y haciendo eventos constemente 23:15:22 I agree on that. Interest over number 23:15:29 sobre los gastos y los vuelos, ahi si se tiene un poco de exceso, ya que los vuelos primero llegan a Lima y recien vana Juliaca 23:15:48 ademas de que luego de juliaca se tiene que tomar transporte terrestre hasta Puno 23:16:27 Respecto a la gestion y parte logistica personalmente estare apoyando en la organizacion de FudCon 23:16:38 Creo que si sera facil atraer contribuidores de otros paises, ya que estamos en frontera con Bolivia 23:16:43 tonet666p, alex dice que este transporte es muy acerca Juliaca X puno 45 minutes by car 23:16:46 y muy cerca a Chile 23:16:46 eof 23:16:50 Ok please answer the last question, what are your cons? 23:17:10 ! 23:17:17 creo que una de las principales contras es la de los vuelos 23:17:21 Go ahead alexove 23:17:38 y luego la altura, ya que muchos pueden sufir de soroche 23:17:39 eof 23:17:47 Ok, guys meanwhile see the link of the bid while Uruguay answer the question too 23:17:56 Creo que con lo que se ahorre con lo del local y facilidades que de la universidad se puede destinar más dinero a los pasajes 23:18:00 eof 23:18:26 Why we should elect your country as venue of this Fudcon? 23:18:30 Uruguay 23:18:33 Yea 23:19:12 After Uruguay answer the question, people here will do their own questions 23:19:18 Kohane go ahead 23:19:22 I think is Uruguay is a great place because is nearer to many contributors countries like Argentina and Brazil 23:19:28 Yes, I'm writing 23:20:09 And it has a small community but many users due the Plan Ceibal (OLPC and later similar projects) 23:20:23 Many Fedora users I mean 23:21:15 Also, it flights go directly to Montevideo, 23:22:28 And there's a lot of interest from different areas, specially developers and education related people, in this event. In making happen here. 23:22:56 Also, flights go directly to Montevideo. Sorry, my mistake. 23:23:47 What are your cons? 23:24:01 It would be awesome if the event can be done here, give the local community a push, atracting the spare users to the community, makiing them see they aren-t alone. 23:24:05 EOF 23:24:24 Cons.. 23:24:59 Hotels are maybe a little bit more expensive than in Puno. 23:25:36 Kohane, do you have idea about the price range ? 23:26:09 $25 / $50 / $100 usd per person ? 23:26:16 And If there are cheaper hostals 23:26:37 60 or 80 for room between one and three persons each 23:26:47 Yeah, hostals are way cheaper 23:27:07 And there's a lot 23:27:20 Remember, Fedora guys can be hosted in cheap hostals if they are good 23:27:50 Well, here there's a lot of good hostals and they have low costs 23:27:59 How many local people do you think will go to the event? are any local college or universites interested on it? 23:28:05 Many of them include a breakfast 23:28:05 Always has been of that way 23:28:16 Oh! Perfect 23:28:43 How many attending? No less of 50 or 60 23:29:09 From near countries 23:29:19 100 or more from other places 23:29:39 Do you have a university or place interested to host the event 23:29:52 Or you should pay for that? 23:30:08 Yes, isn't a University because educative institutions were closed during january 23:30:39 It's a coworking place that they very interested in hosting the event 23:31:11 They already work a lot with Linux users and developers, host Linux based companies, and different events 23:31:12 Ok, team please do your own questions to the wrangler, and then we will vote 23:31:27 Wranglers * 23:32:40 There are questions? 23:33:01 what are the dates planned for fudcon ? 23:33:12 The coworking is interested in sponsorship? 23:33:32 tonet, Kohane? 23:33:34 Yes, they're interested 23:34:21 Uruguay: dates are from 8 to 12th September 23:34:45 The proposed dates are in the Puno bid wiki page 23:34:47 From: 06/10/2016 To: 09/10/2016 23:35:52 Did you get mad with me if I vote for other bid for fudcon ? will you try again next year bidding again in case your bid was not choosen ? 23:36:26 Who are you talking to, itamarjp? 23:36:43 Kohane, usually the countries try the next year 23:36:50 I am asking for both bids 23:37:10 That means, they are interested to improve their bids 23:37:25 I know. I wanted to know who itamar was asking to. 23:37:49 echevemaster, we have Escuelab and Codigo Linux community but they dont have money 23:38:05 .fas alyaj2a 23:38:05 alyaj2a: alyaj2a 'Aly Yuliza Machaca Mamani' 23:38:13 * alyaj2a fron Peru 23:38:25 tonet666p I'm not asking for sponsoring 23:38:55 I'm getting lost 23:39:07 echevemaster: Did you asked something? 23:39:12 ahhh, sorry 23:39:14 When and what 23:39:45 i think we still can if montevideo wins this year 23:40:00 podemos intentar el siguiente año 23:40:05 Ok if the countries don't want answer the question is fine. For me is a valid question 23:40:05 Thanks Itamarjp 23:40:26 Oh! Yes, sure. Why should I get mad? 23:40:29 Thanks for that tonet666p 23:40:33 I mean... is your decision 23:40:46 .fas sophiekovalevsky 23:40:48 kovalevsky: sophiekovalevsky 'Kiara Navarro' 23:40:49 Panamá 23:40:56 Ok go ahead, we will vote 23:41:12 ok 23:41:51 Please vote for you desire 23:41:53 * tonet666p Puno 0 - Montevideo 0 23:41:58 Country 23:42:11 Sorry for the typo 23:42:17 that is my vote 23:42:28 Wranglers vote? 23:42:38 Yes, they do 23:42:39 My vote is for Puno. Their team has already some experience and free venue is also a plus. 23:42:56 +1 for Puno. 23:42:59 Thanks mayorga 23:43:07 Thanks Kovalevsky 23:43:28 +1 Montevideo 23:43:30 +1 Puno 23:43:33 +1 for Puno 23:43:34 :-) 23:43:37 Thanks Kohane 23:43:44 Thanks lilix 23:43:49 +1 Puno 23:44:00 Thanks alexove, wolnei 23:44:04 Gracias mayorga es verdad tenemos experiencia y en el fudcon 2013 fue todo un exito 23:44:07 puno 23:44:08 +1 Puno 23:44:27 +1 Puno (hope to see uruguay for next year) 23:44:49 No, it won't be possible I won't be in Uruguay next year 23:44:56 Anyone else? 23:45:17 My vote is for Puno 23:45:59 * alexove potty voted for Puno too 23:46:04 +1 Puno 23:46:08 Kohane, where you moving ? 23:46:12 #info Fudcon 2016 will be held at Puno Peru 23:46:29 #agreed Fudcon 2016 is in Puno 23:46:31 tonet666p: Congrats!!! 23:46:38 Oww yeahh 23:46:50 10 - 1 23:46:55 This was the last event we did in Cusco Peru https://www.facebook.com/FedoraCusco/ 23:47:03 congrats Peru for having fudcon again. 23:47:08 congrats Tonet666p Alyaj2a Renne 23:47:08 May the force be with you Puno!!! 23:47:31 * alexove will save money for the pachamanca :-D 23:47:33 We have time to discuss about the cardholder? 23:47:57 Mas bien guarden dinero para el cacacho 23:47:58 ohhhh 23:48:07 Or we can discuss about that the next week? 23:48:17 digo kankacho 23:48:18 a como es de costumbre en la comunidad de software libre, si haces algo bien te premian dandote mas trabajo de gratis. Felicidades Puno 23:48:28 Itamarjp about the ticket? 23:48:35 thanks guys 23:48:36 the cardholder ticket? 23:48:37 * tonet666p se ha desmayado 23:48:38 echevemaster, do we have more people interested in becoming the cardholder ? 23:48:45 Yes 23:48:52 Neville 23:49:36 * mayorga would like to thank both teams for their bidding work! 23:50:02 Thanks know it will be another event of great importance 23:50:57 I will check with red hat accounting to see if my credit card is valid. If it is still valid i will continue to be the card holder, if not I will step aside 23:50:58 #topic Cardholder discussion 23:51:55 unless somebody think I should step aside for any reason 23:51:57 I'm crying with joy . Today will not go to the meeting want to celebrate 23:52:01 Guys, itamarjp did a ticket for ask to be the next cardholder of latam, Neville also is willing to take the ownership of the task 23:52:23 Please share your thoughts 23:52:36 Is a open discussion and is not official 23:52:44 The card holder elected is not Abdel? 23:52:46 Redhat have to take the decision 23:52:50 I filled the ticket because Neville was not sure about continuing doing the task 23:53:01 No wolnei he is the treasurer 23:53:10 Ok 23:53:26 Itamarjp, then there are nothing to discuss here 23:53:37 Neville is willing to take the task 23:53:39 Hi guys5, I'm sorry I'm late 23:53:49 it will make sense that the treasurer will be the card holder, but it is not required 23:54:00 So, go ahead Neville and bring the discussion to the Council 23:54:09 He seemed to be hesitating, mostly willing to give up 23:54:18 But I don't know now 23:54:39 the thing for me is that there has been some months and red hat has not commented on replacing the card holder 23:55:21 yn1v, for me is better that you take again the task, you have the experience 23:55:42 yn1v, for me too 23:55:43 they asked privately for my recommendations on replacement, but nothing has happened 23:56:16 Ok guys I will close the meeting if there are not topics to discuss rodsy 23:56:37 Thanks y1nv and please keep us posted about this 23:56:37 lets finish the topic about cardholder 23:56:49 There are any topics to discuss today 23:56:50 ? 23:56:58 yn1v, will you continue ? 23:57:08 yn1v, are you confident ? 23:57:18 yes, I am okey 23:57:30 then I will close the ticket, 23:57:38 there is one other item abdel asked to take into the meeting 23:57:52 Please bring the topic 23:57:58 You are chair 23:58:28 #topic puntarenas forum 23:59:07 Fernando espinoza y abdel tienen en el presupuesto una entrada para el foro tecnologico en puntarenas costa rica 23:59:33 envie un mail a la lista sobre esto. 23:59:37 Thank you all permission to another meeting byeee 23:59:48 no se si los event owners ya abrieron la wiki del evento 00:00:15 Ok what is the cost of this travel? There are filled tickets? 00:00:30 pero la idea es mover algunos colaboradores cerca de costa rica a este evento 00:00:46 no hay ticket, esperaba ver la wiki para abrir el ticket 00:01:09 la UCR va aponer alohamiento y comida 00:01:22 lo que debemos poner nosotros es tiempo y transsporte 00:01:43 puede ser via bus para la gente en Nicaragua. 00:01:55 posiblemente de panama tambien pueda ser en bus 00:02:13 Ok more or less, what are the costs? 00:02:19 asi que es mas informativo que otra cosa 00:02:49 In order to vote for the sponsorship 00:02:52 I think is about $85 round trip by bus from managua 00:03:09 yn1v, I paid more last time. 00:03:14 but there is no list of people traveling to have the complete budged 00:03:26 For each attendee? 00:03:32 yes 00:03:47 yn1v, creo algo en torno de $150 / person 00:04:00 So, we can vote for the list of people the next week? Or we can vote for you, Abdel just now 00:04:33 yn1v 00:04:35 ? 00:05:00 website said is $92 00:05:13 yn1v: Link? 00:05:39 I thinking in going by car so we can carpool 5 people from managua 00:06:03 And Panama? 00:06:36 When is the event yn1v? 00:06:50 #link http://www.ticabus.com 00:07:01 panama is $110 00:07:26 21 al 25 de marzo 00:08:14 Ok please take the lead on this case and fill the wiki, in order to vote for attendees the next week 00:08:31 so, sorry there is nothing to vote yet, there is time. but know you have some info on the topic 00:08:59 Ok thanks Neville :) 00:09:00 probably the people from panamá can share a car too 00:09:12 I will ping on mailing list to see if people want to attend 00:10:06 Guys, I'm not sure to chair the next meeting, because I'll be traveling to USA on Saturday 00:10:33 I think I can chair next meeting 00:10:35 So, if there are somebody willing to take the chair, go ahead 00:10:41 Thanks Neville 00:11:01 So, I will close the meeting 00:11:09 Thanks to all 00:11:12 echevemaster: I'd like to chair next week. :-) 00:11:25 Thanks mayorga! 00:11:29 5 00:11:31 4 00:11:33 3 00:11:35 2 00:11:37 1 00:11:47 May the force be with you Fedorians 00:11:49 thank you folks 00:11:55 #endmeeting