23:28:08 #startmeeting Fedora-Latam meeting 23:28:09 Meeting started Sat Feb 20 23:28:08 2016 UTC. The chair is alexove. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 23:28:09 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 23:28:09 The meeting name has been set to 'fedora-latam_meeting' 23:28:22 #topic rollcall 23:28:31 .fas alexove 23:28:31 alexove: alexove 'Alex Irmel Oviedo Solis' 23:28:41 .fas itamarjp 23:28:43 * alexove = Peru 23:28:44 itamarjp: itamarjp 'Itamar Reis Peixoto' 23:28:57 .fas srkraken 23:28:57 srkraken: srkraken 'Efren Antonio Robledo Moreno' 23:29:06 * itamarjp Alien 23:29:18 * srkraken México 23:29:49 #chair itamarjp 23:29:49 Current chairs: alexove itamarjp 23:30:34 .fas tonet666p 23:30:34 tonet666p: tonet666p 'Tonet Pascualet Jallo Colquehuanca' 23:30:42 * tonet666p from Perú 23:30:50 .fas alyaj2a 23:30:51 alyaj2a: alyaj2a 'Aly Yuliza Machaca Mamani' 23:30:58 from Perú 23:31:53 renne: fas please 23:31:56 .fas renne 23:31:56 renne: kaje 'Karen Johnson' - renne 'Rene Lujano Laura' - brenner30 'josh brenner' - vaschenb 'Vojtech Aschenbrenner' - neroxyr 'Brennero Pardo Centanaro' - esmil 'Emil Renner Berthing' - pethrenne 'Piotr Mieczkowski' - normmit 'Norman Brenner' (1 more message) 23:32:49 people: There are some pending topics from the last meeting? 23:34:17 * linuxmodder hanging in back row (famna ambassador) 23:34:35 #topic Ticket 316: Sponsoring the HACK GNOME camp 2016 23:34:56 .fas wolnei 23:34:56 wolnei: wolnei 'Wolnei Cândido Tomazelli Junior' 23:34:59 .fas ribeiro 23:34:59 athos: softwarepublico 'Portal do Software Publico' - sdmauro 'Mauro Rodrigues Ribeiro' - ribeiro 'Athos Ribeiro' - slowhusky 'Victor Ribeiro Pires' - kallklen 'Kallklen Ribeiro de Paula' - davydvinicius 'Davyd Vinicius Gonçalves Ribeiro' - linuxuser 'Italo Ribeiro Soares' (5 more messages) 23:35:05 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/316 23:35:10 tenemos quorum? 23:35:48 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HACK_GNOME_2016 23:36:08 #chair wolnei 23:36:08 Current chairs: alexove itamarjp wolnei 23:36:09 .fas corey84 23:36:10 linuxmodder: corey84 'Corey Sheldon' 23:37:49 So, Anyone have a question? 23:40:27 400 will be for how many persons attend? Or will sposor the event? 23:42:42 Sorry guys, my internet conection is slow 23:42:59 No problem 23:43:19 Event owner is not present? 23:43:27 No, is not present 23:44:24 So next topic, is not clear in the wiki for what will be used that amount asked 23:45:40 And if i remember in last meeting was talked about a problem with event last year 23:45:54 Had no report 23:51:26 the event owner can't be present in the meetings 23:52:00 And many things is not clear 23:52:36 So, What we can do? 23:54:27 Comment on ticket and ask the event owner be present next meeting 23:54:39 Ok 23:55:50 #action alexove: will ask to event owner to be present in the next meeting 23:57:54 +1 alexove 23:58:28 #topic Ticket 317: Send reports of latam events to the community blog 23:58:39 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/317 00:01:14 As indicated in the ticket, we send our reports to the addresses indicated 00:01:44 hi, sorry to bother you guys, but I had technical problemas as I attached in my ticket 00:02:14 could you please decide the sponsor of FEDORA for the #GNOMEHACKCAMP2016 00:02:20 I am here to respond your questions 00:03:23 We don't have enough country to vote 00:03:44 The event is in a couple of weeks 00:03:45 ping alyaj2a tonet666p athos itamarjp wolnei_ srkraken1 00:04:03 We need 5 00:04:04 I want to print t-shirts, banners, tickers and DVDs 00:04:40 I was considering FEDORA as sponsor in the add 00:04:43 ad 00:04:47 Sorry, but if we vote will not be valid 00:04:53 can we wait for them? 00:05:19 Ok 00:05:45 we are five: alexove, tonet666p, athos, itamarjp, wolnei and me 00:07:08 But we need more contries 00:07:23 We should almost 5 people from differents countries 00:07:29 5 countries 00:07:53 ok 00:08:25 Not people 00:09:09 Have you seen Wolnei the event in wikis 00:09:13 and I believe that at least 3 of us are Brazilians 00:09:23 https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOMECAMP2016 00:09:34 I did also for the fedora wiki 00:09:49 we are going to start this camp next saturday 00:09:58 as a previous session 00:10:09 we are going to install FEDORA in 35 laptops 00:10:20 all of them are developers 00:10:53 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/HACK_GNOME_2016 00:12:35 yulyta: We can talk about yout ticket the next week 00:12:43 Any other topic guys? 00:12:58 I need to print this week 00:13:18 I have the banner desig ready 00:13:24 with FEDORA on it 00:13:28 I want to show it 00:13:28 Fedora needs contributors. 00:13:57 yes, it is hard to keepp students or people in general as a FEDORA users 00:14:03 they come back to Windows 00:14:04 Sorry yulyta we can't vote your ticket this week 00:14:16 this time I am focus in developers 00:14:19 We need more people from different countries 00:14:22 during this week 00:14:41 if 5 different people add a comment in the ticket with the approval 00:14:59 ping wolnei itamarjp 00:15:02 before Thursday, can I take it as approved for Saturday? 00:15:45 I am attaching the picture of the banners with FEdora on it in the ticket 00:17:05 please tell me if you can see it 00:17:07 https://mail.google.com/mail/u/1/#inbox/14bc1b51ece215f4?projector=1 00:17:27 The meetings are saturdays 00:19:39 so, what I can do 00:20:08 just wait for the next meeting and then print them in days I think 00:21:48 Question: what if there's not enough people to vote next week? 00:22:59 yes, I am afraid of it, too 00:23:10 I do workshops for FEDORA for free 00:23:52 but this time, since we are going to spend more than a week, I decided to do an event to take all of these 35 people to a little camp of 3 days in the countryside 00:24:23 It's a great question, but we can ask for some help from the other ambassadors to be decided on this event / ticket 00:24:41 srkraken1 +1 00:24:47 and I want to give them for free the bus, the camp, lunch, dinners and everything. I want them to fix bugs, at least a couple of bugs 00:25:52 Podriamos enviar un correo alexove 00:25:52 I want to sponsor all these 35 developers, we are going to install FEDORA22-GNOME and JHBUILD 00:26:13 it is a hard task for the majority of newbies 00:26:17 Yes, we can, but the time is our enemy 00:26:29 we are going to do more than 12 hours of previos sessions 00:26:34 a week before the CAMP 00:27:43 #chair srkraken1 00:27:43 Current chairs: alexove itamarjp srkraken1 wolnei 00:27:56 Echevemaster is coming :) 00:29:23 the actual version is FEDORA 23 00:29:27 :p 00:29:57 I know 00:30:15 but we can use JHBUILD without problems with that? 00:30:25 If you tell me that I have to do with F23 00:30:30 I will do it chief 00:32:11 :D 00:32:40 Hi 00:32:47 #chair echevemaster 00:32:47 Current chairs: alexove echevemaster itamarjp srkraken1 wolnei 00:32:53 I support the ticket of Julita 00:32:54 Hi! 00:32:56 Hi echevemaster <3 00:33:26 * echevemaster Venezuela Colombia USa 00:33:26 Echevemaster has seen the banners for the camp 00:33:32 .hello lailah 00:33:33 Kohane: lailah 'Sylvia Sánchez' 00:33:36 Yes 00:34:28 we are going to start the presessions for the camp this Saturday 27 00:34:47 I wish to have the banners ready for that day 00:34:57 and the tshirts too 00:35:15 the core of the event are the three final days on March 4th 00:35:20 to March 6th 00:35:28 as you can see the details in wiki 00:35:37 https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/GNOMECAMP2016 00:35:53 Hello 00:35:56 I review this 00:36:01 Sorry for interrupting like this 00:36:06 .fas potty 00:36:06 potty: potty 'Abdel G. Martínez L.' - radhakrishnanpotty 'S.Radhakrishnan' 00:36:07 Hello potty 00:37:35 * srkraken1 hola enbajadores de latam 00:37:46 I think is too high, because it is including swag for non-Fedora, transportation for non-contributors, meals (which are not covered by budgeting). 00:37:52 hi again 00:37:59 i was disconnected 00:38:03 It is a Fedora Activity Day? Or may it have an impact on the project? 00:38:41 potty +1 00:38:51 i want to know the same thing 00:39:03 I agree with potty 00:39:05 potty +1 00:39:15 potty +1 00:39:16 I am only ask for $400 00:39:31 the total amount is too high compared with $400 00:39:43 we are going to spend more than a week 00:40:07 working and I could fo the F23 release party as part of the CAMP 00:40:18 I know and btw it is pretty detailed on the wiki 00:40:21 yulytas, but do you have goals? 00:40:36 Dont even metion RP. The budget for RP is only $100. 00:40:38 thank you Potty 00:41:27 as I mentioned, I did many FFEDORA workshop without FEDORA sponsor 00:41:47 I am doing this in order to capture more new developers contributors 00:42:40 do we have now the five country representators? 00:42:47 Yes 00:42:55 Lets vote 00:42:58 Itamar 00:43:36 Who is chair? 00:43:37 you know my contributions in Fedora and sometimes I did not ask for sponsorship when I can cover by myself, this thime it is a high budget 00:43:52 #chair potty 00:43:52 Current chairs: alexove echevemaster itamarjp potty srkraken1 wolnei 00:43:57 Ok 00:43:58 yulyta You are looking for money in advance or reimbursement? 00:44:01 I will read the ticket 00:44:17 srkraken1: there is no money in advance 00:44:28 potty +1 00:44:33 Ok, reimbursement is OK 00:44:35 srkraken, every tickets now are for reinbursement 00:44:56 yulyta: i know. Must of all had the same situation. But you have to coordinate 00:44:59 #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-latam/ticket/316 00:45:12 With other people from your country 00:45:23 And have a country budget 00:45:54 OK, I promise I wont this again, I will coordinate better next time as you suggested 00:46:05 Is this included on the LATAM budget? 00:46:06 $400 for 30 attendances is very expensive 00:46:13 35 00:46:54 It is going to be not an event for two hours Itamar, we are going to work since February 27 until March 6th 00:46:57 yulyta: where is this? 00:46:58 for free 00:46:59 Do anyone have extra questions? 00:47:11 To vote 00:47:14 Chosica, Peru 00:47:24 Ah, thanks 00:47:27 I did many FEDORA events beore 00:47:30 yulyta all fedora events are for free 00:48:12 I did this 6 years ago, I know it is for free because I am a volunteer, I wanted to say for the new 35 people 00:48:24 I want to guide them since the beginning 00:49:42 i think is very expensive 00:49:45 -q 00:49:50 -1 00:50:13 yulyta: the problem is not the idea of the event. It is great but maybe the overexpense to get new contributors. 00:50:24 I see that you include swag for gnome... 00:50:25 -1 00:50:30 -1 00:50:33 Do you asked gnome for budget? 00:51:04 It is no good to have Fedora paying all the expenses of the event 00:51:19 For me, it is a -1 00:51:24 -1 00:51:30 yes potty, but as I am telling you. Even if I ask to GNOME and FEDORA. There is more expensive than that, I did contact with STARTUP PERU 00:51:50 -1 00:51:53 can I ask why minus one 00:51:54 ? 00:52:06 +1 00:52:17 It is a Fedora event or a Gnome event? 00:52:25 echevemaster: thats the point 00:52:29 Not a Fedora event 00:52:30 both echevemaster 00:52:32 Neither Gnome 00:52:36 It is a hackspace 00:52:42 GNOME runs over many Operative System 00:52:44 yulytas, it is very expensive 00:52:46 I am choosing FEDORA 00:52:49 Where gnome and fedora are involved 00:53:05 Please if you will ask for fedora swag I'll support only Fedora swag 00:53:18 echevemaster: thats the point again! 00:53:24 Only Fedora swag 00:53:51 What is the cost of swag 00:53:52 And transportation if is an active contributor (with FAS and participating on any subproject or group) 00:54:03 The cost of the swag on the wiki 00:54:06 Is mixed up 00:54:19 Please Julita give us the cost of the Fedora swag 00:54:27 And we will vote for that 00:54:38 I think yulyta should update the budget with only Fedora related swag 00:54:43 And lets vote over that 00:54:46 EOF 00:55:05 in the event 00:55:06 Ok if you can give us the amount just now we can support it 00:55:10 I am going to put FEDORA 00:55:25 in tshirts, giant banners, globes, DVDs 00:55:25 If not we will vote the next week for the same ticket 00:56:06 yulyta: if you can get quote of the expenses to support the asked value, even better 00:56:06 and more publicity online and introducing to a new organizations in Lima, PERU 00:56:24 since STARTUP PERU is interested in spreading the LINUX word 00:56:29 Ok I think we are not clear for now, please go forward and will see this ticket for the next week 00:56:30 I choose FEDORA 00:56:55 That is not the problem we can't pay for not Fedora related expenses 00:56:58 You already said that. 00:57:33 So, please put only in the ticket the Fedora expenses 00:57:43 To rent this place cost money, to spend more then 2 days also, $400 is not even the quarter of the general budget 00:57:48 it is not expensive 00:58:00 OK echevemaster 00:58:49 I was worried about this week, so I will wait another week in order to see if the FEDORA logo is going to be in my event 00:59:21 I am ambassador of FEDORA and I have to use FEDORA 00:59:57 Ok we know 01:00:16 But you have the amount just now? 01:00:19 it will be a real shame if the workshop if going to be developed with another distro 01:00:45 Please tell us 01:00:52 FEDORA is going to be everywhere Echevemaster,as you had seen my prevoius events I am FEDORA 01:01:02 I realy wnat to this again for FEDORA 23 01:01:10 I did it since FEDORA 17 01:01:21 $400 01:01:22 We know that yulyta 01:01:48 Ok that 400 are only for fedora expenses? 01:03:05 DVD and stickers are swag 01:05:28 yes 01:05:59 you will see, it is a promising event 01:06:11 So please vote for sticker and swag 01:06:15 I saw the LATAM page and there was no RELEASE party F23 01:06:24 I will include this in the event 01:06:39 do not forget the banners, and t-shirts 01:06:58 FEDORA logo is going to be everywhere 01:07:43 Sres si Julita entrega recibos de que todo estos 400 son Fedora yo creo que esta bien que 01:07:48 Que deciden 01:07:55 ? 01:07:57 echevemaster: end the meeting 01:08:07 Next week lets discuss this ticket 01:08:09 everything will be in receipts 01:08:18 yulyta: improve the event wiki and bring quotations 01:08:28 potty I am afraid of one thing 01:08:28 People already vote -1 01:08:35 Only one +1 01:08:46 We still are giving you a chance 01:08:52 Validate the things we mention before 01:08:55 maybe next week you decide not to sponsor 01:08:57 Ok please to next weel 01:09:02 Is decided 01:09:05 I have to buy everything this week 01:09:08 Next topic 01:09:30 yulyta: sorry, but you had to make the ticket a bit earlier 01:09:33 -1 01:09:40 isI have to going out, sorry I have a prepaid sim and I don't have enough Internet 01:09:45 Bye 01:09:49 And this is a general recommendation: please fill tickets with time 01:09:50 -1 (too expensive for a gnome event) 01:10:06 #topic Open Floor 01:10:16 La proxima semana hablamos bien este tema 01:10:28 potty que hago 01:10:32 yo puse el ticket con tiempo 01:10:32 Si mejoras el wiki, tienes las cotizaciones y te enfocas en Fedora... 01:10:35 Se te aprueba 01:10:36 estoy muy preocupada 01:10:39 No es el costo 01:10:45 Sino el beneficio que Fedora tendria 01:11:01 STARTUP PERU is involved 01:11:17 many new developers are going to be trained using FEDORA 01:11:20 Consulta: va alexove tonet666p alyaj2a o algun de Fedora Peru? 01:11:24 I do not see what else I can do 01:11:36 yulyta: excelente, pero van a ser Fedora Devel? 01:11:36 I yo soy FEDORA PERU 01:11:44 eso espero 01:11:46 I hope so 01:11:51 Yo se y no he dicho que no 01:12:00 Eres tambien Fedora Peru 01:12:01 I tried before with many people 01:12:04 more than 300 01:12:12 but I did not keep a single one 01:12:14 Escribeme luego de la reunion 01:12:18 Para guiarte 01:12:23 everyone returns back to Windows 01:12:28 Meeting is closing in 3 01:12:30 2 01:12:31 who are you 01:12:32 1 01:12:34 potty 01:12:35 ok 01:12:42 #endmeeting