14:02:02 <mailga> #startmeeting FAmSCo 2016-02-24
14:02:02 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Feb 24 14:02:02 2016 UTC.  The chair is mailga. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:02:16 <mailga> #meetingname famsco
14:02:16 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco'
14:02:16 <decause> .hello decause
14:02:17 <zodbot> decause: decause 'Remy DeCausemaker' <decause@redhat.com>
14:02:26 <potty> .hello potty
14:02:26 <zodbot> potty: potty 'Abdel G. Martínez L.' <abdel.g.martinez.l@gmail.com>
14:02:29 <mailga> @bar(input):button1#topic Roll Call
14:02:38 <mailga> #topic Roll Call
14:02:50 <gnokii> .fas gnokii
14:02:50 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de>
14:02:58 <mailga> .fas mailga
14:02:58 <zodbot> mailga: mailga 'Gabriele Trombini' <g.trombini@gmail.com>
14:03:11 <mailga> hi decause nice to see you here.
14:03:53 <mailga> #chair gnokii potty
14:03:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: gnokii mailga potty
14:04:03 <decause> happy to be herr
14:04:20 <gnokii> herr == german for master
14:04:43 <decause> here*
14:04:46 <decause> lol
14:04:48 <mailga> gnokii: are you still german? :-D
14:05:02 <potty> lol
14:05:24 <gnokii> mailga: I dont know I had since september a german collegue but we didnt speak even we was in private german to each other
14:05:49 <mailga> gnokii: lol
14:06:04 <potty> gnokii: where are you currently at?
14:06:16 <gnokii> ok, lets do some business I dont expect the others
14:06:31 <gnokii> potty: in Phnom Penh
14:06:57 <mailga> gnokii: me too, don't think anyone will show up.
14:07:40 <potty> gnokii: interesting
14:07:45 <decause> :/ is it the time?
14:07:50 <potty> mailga: i agree
14:08:03 <gnokii> decause: no I dont think so
14:08:23 <mailga> I think we should resolve this situation since cwickert never showed up and tuanta only one time afaik.
14:08:23 <potty> decause: theorically no because it was a time 'available' for everyone
14:08:31 <gnokii> its more that some have not that interest in doing the job, otherwise they would at least answer to mails
14:08:37 <potty> mailga: lbazan one time too
14:09:10 <mailga> I agree with gnokii
14:09:15 <potty> gnokii: ++
14:09:29 <gnokii> and for me is now deadline, I raise here officially the request to ask the last chair which is still sesivany, to release them from duty
14:10:52 <gnokii> we even have a new chair just because one person does not give his opinion via mail
14:11:06 <gnokii> havent
14:11:16 <mailga> gnokii +1 and is it the case to go ahead with the four people left or we should ask for new members?
14:11:51 <gnokii> mailga: we need an unequal number
14:12:05 <mailga> gnokii: right.
14:12:13 <gnokii> otherwise we could end anytime again in the situation we have now
14:12:16 <gnokii> 1:1
14:12:24 <potty> gnokii: +1
14:13:27 <mailga> well gnokii do you get in touch with jiri?
14:13:50 <gnokii> mailga: not yet, but I will write tomorrow if we agree on that
14:14:45 <mailga> gnokii: I agree, I strongly agree. There's a lot of work the Project asked us to d, and this situation isn't the best.
14:14:50 <potty> mailga: sorry to not know, but to contact him about what?
14:15:19 <mailga> about what gnokii said before:
14:15:20 <gnokii> potty you really should reconsider if you the right person for the chair
14:15:48 <mailga> I raise here officially the request to ask the last chair which is still sesivany, to
14:15:57 <mailga> release them from duty
14:16:11 <mailga> that's whats gnikiisaid.
14:16:26 <potty> True.
14:16:27 <mailga> s/gnikiisaid/gnokii said
14:16:50 <potty> Thanks
14:16:57 * potty 
14:17:35 <mailga> potty: do you agree to let gnokii get in touch with sesivany for asking that?
14:17:53 <potty> Yes, of course.
14:17:55 * lbazan here
14:18:03 * lbazan late
14:18:05 <lbazan> morning
14:18:24 <potty> I do not relate sesivany as jiri
14:18:26 <potty> Thats all
14:18:35 <mailga> potty: np.
14:20:18 <lbazan> potty: topic?
14:20:37 <mailga> lbazan no topic.
14:20:44 <potty> No topic
14:20:51 <gnokii> lbazan: we talking about how to solve the problem with not participating and its not the time
14:20:53 <lbazan> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/388
14:21:08 <lbazan> gnokii: change the time
14:21:21 <lbazan> In Panamá 9am
14:21:31 <gnokii> thats perse bullshit as they dont participate via mail also
14:22:09 <gnokii> and for me is 9pm so where you want to change to 12 hrs opposite for me in the morning for you in the night?
14:22:13 <lbazan> gnokii: mmmm We have real lives
14:22:21 * mailga sent regrets when not able to attend.... other?
14:22:23 <gnokii> really?
14:22:31 <lbazan> gnokii: you work? you have family?
14:22:36 <lbazan> or others?
14:22:46 <gnokii> lbazan: you want to insult me?
14:22:56 <gnokii> of course I have work
14:23:24 <lbazan> < gnokii> thats perse bullshit as they dont participate via mail also
14:23:55 <gnokii> but opposite to others I do a job if I take it and if I have then no time because of job or family I make the conesquence and step back
14:24:29 <mailga> lbazan: I know that the project is a freetime job, but when people don't show up for several weeks, I think there's a problem.
14:24:42 <gnokii> exactly
14:25:03 <gnokii> and even more they have in that several weeks no time to write a mail
14:26:16 <potty> Lets not emphasize on problem but instead on solutions
14:26:22 <lbazan> potty: +1
14:26:36 <potty> How we can solve this, as a team?
14:26:54 <potty> Changing time is not feasible
14:27:09 <potty> Removing people, is that possible?
14:27:32 <mailga> potty: the first step is that one between you and giannisk did a step down for the chairing request.
14:27:39 <mailga> potty: it is.
14:27:56 <potty> Adding new people, how can we do that?
14:29:07 * mailga seeking the wiki page
14:29:42 <potty> Well, good. What do you think if i step down and i will be the vicechair and giannisk the chair? Of course, if we all  members present agree
14:29:53 <potty> :)
14:30:09 * potty is trying to do my best to not have a stuck famsco :(
14:30:46 <mailga> potty: I agree it's the first step for getting out from this stuck situation.
14:31:13 <lbazan> I have no problem with that potty +1
14:31:26 <mailga> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules
14:31:49 <lbazan> gnokii: are you there?
14:32:05 <mailga> potty lets see the final paragraphs
14:32:28 <Southern_Gentlem> ? do we have the election results?  if people are not serving ask the council to remove and contact the next people who ran for FAMSCO
14:33:45 <mailga> Southern_Gentlem: yes but there are three points in the Filling Vacant Seats section.
14:34:26 <mailga> lbazan: at home gnokii has a bad connection.
14:35:10 <lbazan> mailga: ok
14:35:19 * potty is reading
14:36:31 <mailga> ok, I think potty should sent a mail in ML for stepping down from the run for being the Famsco Chair.
14:36:46 <lbazan> mailga: ok
14:36:48 <potty> mailga: ok
14:36:53 <potty> Thats an action
14:37:17 <lbazan> ok I have one question
14:37:28 <lbazan> mailga potty where is cwickert and tuanta
14:37:47 <mailga> #action potty will send a mail in ML to announce he step down from the chair nomination.
14:37:57 <mailga> lbazan: that's the question
14:38:25 <mailga> lbazan: when we will have the chair he will ask to
14:38:44 <potty> And giannisk? Where is he today?
14:38:48 <lbazan> mailga: ok
14:38:49 <mailga> cwickert and tuanta to step down from famsc.
14:38:58 <lbazan> mailga: ok
14:39:02 <mailga> s/famsc./famsco
14:39:32 <lbazan> mailga: need two members
14:39:41 <mailga> so whe can decide what about the three point of the "filling vacant seats" section.
14:40:19 <potty> mailga: i read about it
14:40:36 <mailga> yes, if tuanta and cwickert will step down, we therorically need two members, but consider also we can go ahead as we are.
14:40:37 <lbazan> mailga: +1
14:41:00 <potty> mailga: +1
14:41:06 <lbazan> +1
14:41:09 <lbazan> okk
14:41:27 <Southern_Gentlem> mailga,  i read that as step 1 2 3 in that order and 1 and 2 has not been done
14:42:28 <mailga> Southern_Gentlem: are those points sequential?
14:43:42 <Southern_Gentlem> thats the way i read it
14:44:09 * mailga is really evaluating to step down from famsco as well.
14:44:22 <gnokii> mailga: theortically we dont need 2 members
14:44:34 <gnokii> read it until end
14:46:45 <mailga> gnokii: was you online when potty declared he will step down from the chair nomination?
14:46:57 <mailga> s was/were
14:47:10 <gnokii> no at least I saw no messages
14:47:51 <mailga> well the action item is that potty will send a mail in list announcing that, so we will have a chair.
14:48:32 <gnokii> ok then its up to giannisk to do that not sesivany
14:48:43 <potty> gnokii: yes
14:48:44 <mailga> gnokii: exactly.
14:48:58 <gnokii> fine with me
14:50:07 <mailga> ok. I think that there's nothing more to do for now, until giannisk will ask for tuanta and cwickert if they will step down.
14:50:25 <potty> mailga: +1
14:50:51 <mailga> we've 10 minutes left.
14:51:10 <gnokii> so its the latam fudcon decission then
14:51:12 <potty> mailga: !
14:51:38 <mailga> gnokii yes, but wait...
14:51:40 <potty> gnokii: that was discussed on Council latest meeting and they approved it
14:52:08 <mailga> gnokii: yes, it was on the council shoulders.
14:52:09 <gnokii> potty: thats fine but when I remember right its a little bit strange
14:52:29 <gnokii> because first famsco yes and later board not going ahead
14:52:42 <potty> Yes I know.
14:52:53 <potty> gnokii: there is a ticket here on famsco trac
14:52:59 <gnokii> so then dont say we havent to agree as we have to
14:53:04 <gnokii> I know
14:53:07 <potty> lbazan created the ticket
14:53:11 <lbazan> ok
14:53:19 <potty> And we wanted to discussed it on this meeting
14:53:39 <potty> lbazan: please share the link
14:53:48 <lbazan> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/388
14:53:58 <gnokii> really, why you tell then we dont have to do it as the council agreed on it?
14:54:17 <potty> gnokii: you asked about it
14:54:30 <gnokii> I did?
14:54:32 <potty> It is not my fault Council agreed on that before us
14:54:42 <potty> But thats not a problem
14:54:54 <gnokii> sure its not a problem
14:55:06 <potty> I just wanted to share that fudcon latam is going to be held at Puno, Peru
14:55:29 <potty> mailga: i sent the email
14:55:49 <mailga> potty: well done!
14:56:17 <gnokii> btw can somebody moderate my answer to the list its already there again since a week
14:57:25 <mailga> gnokii: cwickert and sesivany (if I recall correctly) are admin of the list.
14:57:39 <potty> mailga: +1
14:57:42 <giannisk> .fas giannisk
14:57:42 <zodbot> giannisk: giannisk 'Giannis Konstantinidis' <giannis@konstantinidis.cc>
14:58:07 * giannisk apologizes for being late.
14:58:10 <potty> Hi giannisk
14:58:13 <potty> Welcome
14:58:48 <giannisk> Still during roll call?
14:59:02 <gnokii> sure we neede 1 hour for it
15:00:04 <mailga> giannisk: it was a hard roll call.... We discussed about presents and not present.
15:00:12 <giannisk> Can you fellas please give me an update?
15:00:31 <mailga> sorry I share a bit of italian on my phrase...
15:00:34 <mailga> :-D
15:00:53 <potty> giannisk: i stepped down as chair candidate (wanting to be vicechair if you like to)
15:01:25 <giannisk> potty: yes, I've just seen your e-mail on the FAmSco list
15:01:48 <potty> So you can, as chair, talk to tuanta and cwickert
15:01:52 <gnokii> giannisk: and you have a task as chair already
15:01:54 <potty> to step down
15:02:08 <giannisk> potty: yes, it is totally fine by me to appoint you as vice-chair
15:02:17 <potty> Because we are stuck as famsco
15:02:24 <giannisk> Does anyone object having potty as the vice-chair?
15:02:24 <potty> Thank you very much giannisk
15:03:11 <gnokii> nope
15:03:57 <giannisk> #info Potty steps down as FAmSCo chair candidate
15:04:17 <lbazan> giannisk: no problem for me!
15:04:21 <mailga> #chair lbazan giannisk
15:04:21 <zodbot> Current chairs: giannisk gnokii lbazan mailga potty
15:04:40 <giannisk> #agreed Giannisk appointed as new chair of FAmSCo
15:04:53 <giannisk> #agreed Potty appointed as vice-chair of FAmSCo
15:05:09 * potty :)
15:05:38 <jsmith> Congrats to both of you :-)
15:05:54 <giannisk> Okay. Tuanta and cwickert are the least active FAmSCo members as of now.
15:05:59 * giannisk nods to jsmith
15:06:23 <giannisk> I will send them an e-mail and try to re-activate them
15:06:51 <giannisk> Should that not be possible, then they current committee will kindly ask them to step down.
15:06:59 <giannisk> I think this is fair for everyone.
15:07:05 <giannisk> Does everyone agree with that
15:07:07 <giannisk> ?
15:07:15 <lbazan> +1
15:07:16 <giannisk> s/they/the
15:07:40 <gnokii> giannisk: we already agreed on that
15:07:44 <potty> +1
15:07:47 <mailga> +1
15:07:55 <giannisk> gnokii: sorry, I was not here earlier
15:08:08 <potty> giannisk: it is ok
15:08:17 <gnokii> but one thing is sure I dont want to hear empty excuses
15:09:01 <giannisk> #action giannisk inform tuanta and cwickert about their inactivity, try to re-activate them
15:09:25 <mailga> agree with gnokii a lot of work has to be done and we're wasting time.
15:09:55 <giannisk> We will put more efforts together as FAmSCo, be sure about that.
15:10:00 <potty> mailga: +1
15:10:19 <giannisk> Anything else that needs to be discussed today?
15:10:25 <lbazan> giannisk: nope
15:10:32 <potty> Nope
15:10:35 <lbazan> fudcon? close the ticket
15:10:35 <lbazan> ?
15:10:37 <giannisk> What is the state of the transition from FAmSCo to FOSCo?
15:10:38 <mailga> not from me
15:10:52 <giannisk> gnokii: do you need any help with that?
15:10:53 <potty> giannisk: we just mentioned that fudcon latam will be on Puno, Peru
15:10:56 <lbazan> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/388
15:10:58 <gnokii> giannisk: my mail with the answer is still in the queue since 2 weeks
15:11:15 <lbazan> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/388
15:11:32 <giannisk> gnokii: why is that? aren't you already part of the FAmSCo mailing list?
15:11:56 <mailga> gnokii: do you think we can ask puiterwijk to give us the admin powers on the famsco list?
15:12:12 <gnokii> giannisk: yeah I am but I just hit the button answer and it looks I am in it with the mail address i not normally use
15:12:24 <gnokii> mailga: sure he can
15:12:24 <giannisk> gnokii: I see
15:12:25 <puiterwijk> mailga: if one of the current admins give you ack, I can give you admin
15:12:41 <gnokii> puiterwijk: ++
15:12:45 <potty> Thanks puiterwijk
15:12:51 <gnokii> puiterwijk++
15:12:51 <zodbot> gnokii: Karma for puiterwijk changed to 34 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:12:57 <potty> puiterwijk++
15:12:57 <zodbot> potty: Karma for puiterwijk changed to 35 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:13:04 <mailga> giannisk: can you ask to sesivany to give his ack?
15:13:05 <lbazan> gnokii++
15:13:20 <giannisk> mailga: will do
15:13:25 <mailga> thank so much puiterwijk
15:13:35 <giannisk> mailga: either sesivany or cwickert
15:14:00 <gnokii> ok lets formulate something to FUDCon Puno
15:14:01 <potty> Thats an action to do too
15:14:04 <mailga> yes but cwickert is away from us, at the moment.
15:15:07 * mailga is on the phone.... job is calling. Please go ahead.
15:15:26 <giannisk> #action giannisk to ask sesivany to give ack for a new FAmSCo list admin
15:16:17 <gnokii> decause: still there?
15:16:31 <giannisk> Regarding the Fudcon LATAM: yes, it should be reviewed by the council
15:17:07 <potty> giannisk: it was already reviewed and approved by Council
15:17:19 <gnokii> giannisk: we have to review it also and normally before the board retrespective council
15:17:31 <potty> gnokii: thats correct
15:17:41 <giannisk> potty: yes, just noticed on the ticket
15:17:54 <potty> To sum up: Council approved the ticket but we dont have even discussed about it
15:22:59 <potty> Are we still hereV
15:23:12 <potty> s/hereV/here
15:23:12 <gnokii> ok can we say something and vote on it?
15:23:42 <giannisk> potty: go for it then
15:23:58 <giannisk> potty: please give us an update
15:23:58 <gnokii> make it formal
15:25:03 <potty> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Puno_2016
15:27:11 <potty> Here is the famsco ticket url
15:27:14 <potty> #link https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/388
15:29:01 <gnokii> giannisk: ?
15:29:33 <giannisk> gnokii: I'm waiting for potty to comment
15:29:52 <gnokii> comment on what?
15:30:06 <giannisk> potty: is there any clear overview for the budget? I
15:30:43 <giannisk> gnokii: give FAmSCo and intro, maybe? posting a link is not sufficient, at least to me
15:30:52 <giannisk> s/and/an
15:32:01 <potty> potty: there is a section on the wiki page about it
15:32:09 <gnokii> the only concern I have, I see no cost breakdown
15:32:30 <giannisk> exactly, there is no budget breakdown
15:32:41 <giannisk> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Puno_2016_budget
15:32:46 <giannisk> also the above link is dead
15:32:57 <potty> Oh
15:33:00 <potty> I see
15:33:04 <potty> council mentioned that too
15:33:15 <potty> Let me talk to the organizers to solve this asap
15:33:41 <potty> They have the budget but dont know why is not reflected on the wiki
15:33:44 <lbazan> potty: I take this action
15:33:52 <potty> Thank you
15:34:04 <giannisk> The thing is, what do you need our approval for when there's no mention about the budget?
15:34:17 <lbazan> giannisk: the budget is 10k
15:34:32 <giannisk> I'm totally fine with the dates and place and everything else, but please give us a clear overview of the budget :)
15:34:36 <lbazan> giannisk: You need a breakdown
15:34:37 <lbazan> ?
15:34:44 <giannisk> lbazan: yes please
15:34:55 <gnokii> with that flight prices, can be interesting to achieve
15:34:59 <lbazan> giannisk: ok give some days
15:34:59 <potty> The breakdown is missing
15:35:05 <potty> But the 10K is true
15:35:07 <potty> See this link
15:35:15 <potty> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_budget_template
15:35:15 <gnokii> what link?
15:35:47 <potty> ^
15:35:55 <potty> ESTE
15:35:57 <potty> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_budget_template
15:36:19 <giannisk> Fixed costs are 5k USD from what I see
15:36:32 <potty> Yes
15:36:37 <potty> But still lets wait for the breakdown
15:36:42 <potty> They should have this
15:36:52 <lbazan> give some days! please!
15:36:55 <lbazan> to solve this
15:37:06 <gnokii> yes, its post boned
15:37:20 <gnokii> and I am not interest in a template
15:37:23 <giannisk> So, would you need less than 5k USD to sponsor event attendees?
15:37:37 <giannisk> I'm thinking that 10k in total won't be enough
15:37:52 <giannisk> But yes, have a few more days and get back to us
15:38:22 <lbazan> ok
15:38:34 <potty> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Puno_2016#Budget
15:38:51 <potty> Sorry. Don't mean to paste it here.
15:39:11 <giannisk> #action lbazan potty to get back to FAmSCo w/ a budget breakdown for Fudcon LATAM
15:39:34 <giannisk> Anything else for today?
15:39:38 <lbazan> nope
15:39:41 <potty> Not from me
15:39:56 <gnokii> yapp
15:40:03 <giannisk> Ending this meeting in a minute then.
15:40:10 <gnokii> .fasinfo giannisk
15:40:11 <zodbot> gnokii: User: giannisk, Name: Giannis Konstantinidis, email: giannis@konstantinidis.cc, Creation: 2009-11-20, IRC Nick: giannisk, Timezone: Europe/Athens, Locale: en, GPG key ID: , Status: active
15:40:14 <zodbot> gnokii: Approved Groups: cla_fedora cla_done ambassadors cvsl10n campusambassadors cla_fpca
15:40:24 <gnokii> giannisk:  i mean i have points
15:40:32 <giannisk> gnokii: please go ahead
15:40:49 <gnokii> you see what is missing, you not in famsco group yet ;)
15:41:24 <giannisk> gnokii: point made ;)
15:41:33 <giannisk> gnokii: haven't received any invitation
15:41:47 <giannisk> Is everyone else on the famsco group on FAS?
15:41:52 <gnokii> so can you take the action to bring order in the fas group to?
15:41:58 <lbazan> .fas lbazan
15:41:59 <zodbot> lbazan: lbazan 'Luis Enrique Bazán De León' <bazanluis20@gmail.com>
15:42:05 <lbazan> .fasinfo lbazan
15:42:06 <zodbot> lbazan: User: lbazan, Name: Luis Enrique Bazán De León, email: bazanluis20@gmail.com, Creation: 2011-04-19, IRC Nick: LoKoMurdoK, Timezone: America/Panama, Locale: es, GPG key ID: 50ED87E8, Status: active
15:42:08 <potty> .fasinfo potty
15:42:09 <zodbot> lbazan: Approved Groups: @fedora-py cvsl10n bzrpython-fedora sysadmin-logs @fedora-pa sysadmin-noc bodhiadmin packager fedorabugs cla_fedora cla_done cla_fpca sysadmin campusambassadors freemedia gitfas docs docs-writers triagers famsco @fedora-icaro @fedora-mx +ambassadors @fedora-ec @fedora-ar @fudcon @fedora-cl
15:42:13 <zodbot> potty: User: potty, Name: Abdel G. Martínez L., email: abdel.g.martinez.l@gmail.com, Creation: 2010-03-27, IRC Nick: potty, Timezone: America/Panama, Locale: es, GPG key ID: , Status: active
15:42:14 * jflory7 has a suggestion for future FAmSCo meetings
15:42:15 <lbazan> yes
15:42:16 <zodbot> potty: Unapproved Groups: l10n-commits
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15:42:52 <potty> I am not included
15:43:09 <potty> jflory7: what is your suggestion?
15:43:10 <gnokii> yes all new are not and the old are still in
15:43:19 <potty> gnokii: ok
15:43:19 <giannisk> Newer FAmSco members have not been invited to the famsco group on FAS. Will see to it.
15:43:55 <giannisk> #action giannisk ask the infra team to include new famsco members to the famsco FAS group
15:44:03 <jflory7> It may be helpful for FAmSCo to plan the meeting agendas ahead of time to keep the meetings focused and centered around topics that need to be discussed. Obviously there are some internal issues that were addressed today, but the EMEA Ambassadors, CommOps, and soon to be Marketing use this format to good success.
15:44:07 <giannisk> gnokii: thanks for bringing this up
15:44:08 * jflory7 digs for links
15:44:18 <giannisk> gnokii++
15:44:18 <zodbot> giannisk: Karma for gnokii changed to 9 (for the f23 release cycle):  https://badges.fedoraproject.org/tags/cookie/any
15:44:30 <jflory7> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:Ambassadors_meeting
15:44:37 <jflory7> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:CommOps_meeting
15:44:53 <gnokii> ^^
15:44:55 <jflory7> And an example: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:CommOps_2016-02-23
15:45:00 <jflory7> Doesn't have to be as verbose
15:45:10 <jflory7> But having an agenda at least outlined in advance should help for planning
15:45:26 <potty> jflory7: i will suggest it on LATAM meetings too. Thanks
15:45:39 <giannisk> jflory7: for EMEA, we have stopped creating new wiki pages for each meeting, I'm now posting the agenda on the mailing list
15:45:52 <jflory7> giannisk: Ahh, I see, was not aware
15:46:16 * jflory7 likes the wiki template for list formatting and having others edit onto it as needed
15:47:17 <giannisk> FAmSCo, do you think we should maintain wiki pages w/ the agenda for each of our meetings?
15:47:50 <gnokii> nope
15:48:52 <giannisk> I can just post a meeting reminder w/ the agenda on the FAmSCo list, same thing I have been doing with the EMEA Ambassadors meetings lately.
15:48:54 <jflory7> Doesn't have to be wiki, but some kind of agenda planning in advance should be useful to FAmSCo
15:48:59 <jflory7> Yeah.
15:49:06 <giannisk> +1
15:49:24 <potty> Lets mantain it of the list
15:49:29 <gnokii> jflory7: just one note from me, we have an agenda
15:49:31 <potty> s/of/on
15:50:39 <gnokii> nope we stick with the agenda to the mailing list
15:51:29 <giannisk> lbazan: okay to have the agenda posted on the mailing list?
15:52:11 <gnokii> mailga: has done this
15:52:20 <lbazan> ok
15:52:24 <lbazan> giannisk:
15:52:29 <giannisk> gnokii: not yesterday for example
15:52:40 <giannisk> gnokii: there was just a reminder
15:53:15 <gnokii> giannisk: yes because it made no sense we had never a quorum and could not do anything
15:54:10 <giannisk> #agreed Meeting reminders w/ an agenda to be posted on the FAmSCo mailing list
15:54:33 <giannisk> gnokii: still, no agenda for the last meetings :) we're going to fix that
15:54:46 <jflory7> giannisk++
15:54:48 <jflory7> gnokii++
15:54:50 <gnokii> via mail in the invite is enough
15:55:31 <giannisk> Anything else to be discussed?
15:55:59 <potty> No
15:56:30 <lbazan> nope
15:57:06 <jflory7> That was all I had to suggest
15:57:21 <giannisk> Thank you all, ending the meeting in two minutes from now then.
15:59:32 <giannisk> #endmeeting